NEW WORLD ORDER

There are very few truly shady politicians! Most are halfway decent despite lying or misleading people even the influential ones. The kind of thugs im talking about the the real shady ones. The kind of ones who knocked off kennedy ;). They are out there though and not always the ones u would suspect. Don't talk about wat i know b/c u have no idea wat exactly it is that i know. My dad is a lobbyist there r a few prominent people who according to u "sold their sole to the devil" that know me by first name and my dad by a nickname! Can u say the same for yourself? Have u ever had dinner with a senator or assemblymen? Dinner with a mayor? Smoked pot with a judge? =D

Quite contradictory to your statement about needing to be mixed up in bad business many powerful politicians in the south are part of the moral majority. They are baptists and such who actually do believe in their faith! It really depends on the area. Some areas especially the ghetto ones in cali have EXTREMELY shady politicians especially when compared to politicians from the bible belt! The bible belt votes do count the same in the whitehouse as the shady ones though!

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Here's a example for you wakeuppoland2....

Let's say you want to become a politican and you have a program to end poverty.... You are truly a saint. However without some people's money to run a successful campaign you will not be elected.... what do you do???? You can choose not to take money(but than you won't win)...or you can take the money winning you the election(but also make you feel obligated to repay these people for there donations).... However once you win than you can implemant your program... It's a complicated situation and not as simple as you make it.... You can aviod politics and change nothing or you can play by the rules and slowely change it for the better.

Now not to say that some politicians aren't corrupt.... but it can be found in every occupation.... it's just politics has a much farther reaching effect.

Damn str8 there r lobbyists with several million dollars to grease things up that are more influential than a bunch of senators! $ and schmoozing runs the show in politics! Its not about wats right or wrong! Its about who u like and who likes u and how much they like u$$$$$$$. With the right amount of $ u might even be able to get charles manson elected to office!(not seriously but u but the point)

Both sides now understand how inarticulate bush is! HE has a speech impediment for god's sakes! He ran a few companies he was in charge of into bankrupsy! HE didn't even get into college on his own credentials it was daddies $. If bush can be our president just about any1 could get there with enough $ and friends in high places!

it really fell apart at that point.
...so are a lot of the mullahs in islamic countries, being part of the majority can say just as much negative as it can positive.

I have to wonder what your point is though when you claim the majority lie and mislead people. It seems like the southern man is just as involved with the legitimized crime of politics as those shady examples in cali are part of the non legitimized political crime there (i have to wonder how you have determined this).


It doesn't sound that you have come at this from an objective viewpoint based on the above quote.


.... then, unless you clarify, it appears sanitized crime and moral flexibility of this world is what helped get you wherever you are in this world...again, that's not exactly an objective perspective you're providing.

*note in case you're a pant-buncher (like matthias is)*
Keep in mind that i don't know you nor do i want to. However, these are simply the words you have written and how they don't support your opinions as being either objective (informed yes) or supportive of your earlier positions.

B/c moral flexibility gets u into a university and gets u good grades? I don't understand how thats possible..... EVERY1 LIES SOMETIME! Politicians can only lie to the really stupid illogical people! Lying isn't that bad...im sure u have lied many times! wah wah wah u complain too much who cares? Politicians have always been a bit sleezy and had some pretty flexible morals and they always will!

Word of advice, foreignor is a doushebag...... he lives in fairy tale in a land far far away and doesn't know how the real world works.... my guess, he's on some real good mushrooms....

you prove him wrong twice he will stalk and cry forever



oh yeah hows that??? he's telling you the truth.... what's your answer, get rid of the government...... you are so naive...... sometimes lying is actually necessary.....



what's your dad do???? that should have nothing to do with his post..... he obviously knows how the system works.....

Depends on wat system ur talking about. To tell u the truth i dont know that much u really have to be inside of a powerful lobby and in a big political fam to know alot. My dad is a pretty low level lobbyist in the run of things he mostly lobbys state law. It's really hard to tell who the pawns and the kings are in politics. U can have an average joe in congress who has more power than the president and u wouldn't even know it unless u were one of his conspirators! Some of the guys on top could just b pawns 2!!! Bush could have much less power than u think depending on where his loyalties and faith lie! Bush might have not even looked at some of the bills he okayed. If his daddy or his BFF cheney say its good and they read it it might b all they need.

Politics is a game so complex its impossible to figure out. All of the real reasons a law came to pass might never ever be known even to the ppl who voted to pass them!

Rocky that question was for foreignor because he's an idiot..... What your dad does Rocky actually helps you to have inside knowledge to how the world works....

His dad probably cleans toilets, and he has the balls to disregard your post because your dad is a lobbyist...



I agree, the politicans themselves don't always know what's going on......

Wat do u know about the corrections officers lobby in cali matthias? Let me tell u our police and corrections officers have one of THE MOST corrupt lobbys out the whole group of sleazy bungholes! They lobby for stricter laws and to criminalize more and more things at the expense of the american tax payers! They partner with mexican lobbys like la raza to keep illegal aliens here b/c they commit more crimes!!! IT costs 40,000$ a year to encarcerate some1. THe more ppl u lock up the more ppl u have graduating with more advanced degrees in crime! u go in with a BA in marijuana come out with a phd in meth cooking!

The correction officers lobby is huge! Out of any 1st world country we encarcerate the most ppl and corrections officers make BANK. They contribute huge amounts to candidates. A starting salary for a corrections officer is 70k a year but really its more like 90k b/c of the overtime!

They get a 3% retirement at age 50!!! the calpers retirement pays them 90% of their ending wages for the rest of their lives if they work 30 years! They pay hefty union dues and all of the union dues to go pay sleezy lobbyists 10s of million to lobby for their interests. One of the most hypocritical things my father ever saw was when he went to one of his lobby buddies rallies with the corrections officers! They were discussing the importance of drug laws and maintaining a civil society through prison sentences. ALL OF THAT WITH AN FREE OPEN BAR AND SOMEHOW THEY MADE IT SO U COULD SMOKE INSIDE! Most of the officers were half drunk some were falling over. Alot of the drunk ones even drove home i mean WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

It's a great post and very informative........ i didn't know this exactly but I am not suprised at this at all..... I always knew things like this went on and seen some shady deals myself...... people just look out for their own interest, it may not be always right but that is human nature.....

If you don't mind I'm going to say this post for my records....

Sure save it the corrections officers lobby is ridiculously undercover though. not many ppl know but if u asked and did some research u would find out! They r a super powerful organization! They aren't officers that want peace like it says in their name! IF there was peace they wouldn't have jobs! THey like their fat paychecks and retirement packages. They even get home loan assistance! Its a difficult job but they r overpaid and have become just too powerful. http://www.ccpoa.org/

HA wanna know wat the scariest part is their UNION the state has to give them wat they want.... I mean they could strike and just walk out and see wat happens in the prisons. HAHAHAHAHAHA they have made threats to do that before!
http://jobs.spb.ca.gov/wvpos/search_p.cfm?&sRow=51 its sick their retirements r even hard to find on the net! IF ppl knew how suhweet their retirements were they would get super pissed.

Weird it won't let me show how many jobs are available but if u do a search u can find it on calis website. They recruit ppl out of the military and ppl in community colleges to be corrections officers. They like suggestible ppl who r willling to be a part of the CAUSE to keep the peace

Vote for a smoking Realist deprived of a bit of sleep from time to time goes by the screen name of Rockey Mason:

Sounds like a relevant candadate to me and dear say worthy of a vote, perhasps.

Lets just play make beleive:

What would your polocies be??

exactly, something comparable can be said about many other occupations...

thanks for those links, I'm going to check them out now.....

I'd decriminalize marijuana federally and all illegal drugs would b decriminalized as well. Instead of having the citizens pay for addicts id have the addicts pay the citizens. There would b huge fines if u were caught but no criminal record. 20 dollars a gram fine for pot and much higher for hard drugs. Ur tax returns get confiscated if u don't pay causing ur wages to b garnished and we would have the IRS liquidate ur assets if u owe them $.

Take away prisons and make tent cities. They should live in tents not a nice warm prison. Make them work 10 hours a day! I wouldn't allow illegal immigrants in our schools or healthcare system. I would tax the top american class who had more $ than they needed. If u make 10 mil a year i'd tax u down to where u only had 3 million. Poor ppl wouldn't pay a dime. I'd try to make all universities that were public free. I'd find a way to raise interest on home loans so people wouldn't make stupid decisions.



There r tons of policies i'd love to implement.

http://jobs.spb.ca.gov/wvpos/more_info.cfm?recno=356138 dude correctional captains make over 120k a year WTFFFFFFFFFFFF. that means when they retire the system has to pay them 100k a year til they die **** that.

I'd also tax the **** out of corporations and require that the vast majority of their employees be full time with benefits. I would attach the presidents livlihood the that of the US! IF u drive us into debt which we can't escape out of we liquidate ur assets and give them to the ppl. I'd make washington super accountable for their actions! If they wouldn't fix the healthcare system i'd yank their healthplans! =D

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fine then, it appears that it put food on your table and helped pay for that schooling.

Well there you go again, discrediting any chance that you could be taken seriously. Let me guess, it only matters who you lie to, right?
Compare with below:


.....right and you're saying there is no conspiracy? While i was doubtful before, i've become increasingly convinced by the damning statements you've provided. I mean, if some dipsh*t prison guards can play the system then it follows that politicians and business elite have done so in spades.

It's wierd how i can disagree with you so vehemently, yet mostly agree with your make believe policies (except for the tents, they'd escape or get sick and then need expensive medical care in order to stand or witness for any future dates).

*gives mattiaszka a soother and a gold star for arse-kissing*

why, because two people actually agree that your an idiot..... you know that's fairly common on this forum.......

The prison guards don't play the system they are just pawns! They hire the ppl to play the system for them! All politicians are morally flexible some are a bit better than others though! There is no wide scale conspiracy the prisons guards work together that doesn't mean a bunch of sleazy bastards do as well. The prison guards aren't sociopathic like politicians!

The prison guards were taught to work together politicians are taught to backstab eachother!

just shows how naive you are, this is how the real world works.... its not some evil demonic agenda... people just look out for there own interests.... you seem to have mastered that skill..... so get off your high horse......

Well said matthias! Some1 should smack him in the head and then say "the evil demonic cult told me to do it its not my fault" =D Dude its kool under his logic assuming everything bad has a higher more complex meaning i bet u could come up with a kool idea for a book or movie! Wanna give me some ideas foreigner i bet a book could make u some $$. Then u could go pay a lobbyist to find out wat the politicians real initiatives are and u would quit ********!

it would be my pleasure to be the one to do it......

you might be right about naive, however i haven't actually put forth any statement one way or the other. I merely illustrated his contradictions using his own statements. I.e. he stated that one of the proposed situations couldn't exist for reasons he illustrated, but then went on to offer analogies which directly contradict his earlier statements.
If you can't see how those two things are different then i'm sorry but you've nothing to add hereforth
*smartly and nimbly dodges attempted smack, points and laughs*

Rocky,

As stated before, if I had been unsure before reading your posts, then, the fact that they do contradict one another so blatantly would have been reason to become more sure your ealier assertions had, in fact, been false.


You show me where i asserted as much and you get an apology, until then you're using the tried and tested and dishonest tactic of fabrication and embelishement. Do I think there's a higher power responsible for that? No, it's clear you've defaulted to something much more base on that one -pity that.

*edited to replace proper names*

John F Kennedy speech on the dangers of Freemasonic Jewish secret Societies



Reasons for JFK's murder:

1)This speech.

2)His intent of disbanding the CIA.

3)His intent of disbanding the Federal Reserve.

4)His intent of abandoning the fiat monetary system established in 1913 and replacing it with currency backed by silver.

5)His exposing of the military-industrial complex.

6)His prevention of Operation Northwoods.

"The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes."
Benjamin Disraeli - Originally Jewish who converted to Christianity so that he could be appointed Prime Minister of the United Kingdom

I think we should stop feeding these NWO morons matthias! They are bored and thrive off our attention!

Rocky Mason, do u like Willie Nelson?

HELL YAH! He allegedly smoked a j in the whitehouse!

I`ve met him before, really nice guy.



Maybe he did with Clinton??

Oh yeah he didnt inhale......lol

He seems to be very popular in America

Y'know I don't recall him referring by name to anyone group. While his words are full of foreboding and do infact refer to a conspiracy ("monolithic society" was it?), what really strikes me is the way he speaks in this clip. The level of his vocabulary, voice quality and diction- so completely above and beyond what the politicians of today's america are capable of, probably more than most americans can really digest these days.

I am unwilling to say who is pulling which strings but, it is curious that so many people in the seat of power have gone on record saying or admitting to exactly what Mr. kennedy referred to. Disconcerting that some are simply too afraid to ponder that.