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joepilsudski
  Mar 27, 08, 20:24  #181

matthias wrote:
anyways in a globalized world it would make sense to have a one world government.... as long as the one world government is democratic I dont see a problem.

Yes the democratic world government would resemble the democracy we brought to Iraq...just joking!...actually, you can look to Brussels to get a small taste of the shape it would take...but, you are correct that it will be a little while yet...all the security and tracking measures are not in place yet...and hopefully you are fully on mark when you say centuries...by the way, as an aside, would you take a microchip implant if this 'world government' required it of you, as an ID device, and as a replacement for money/as a means of 'buying and selling'?

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matthias
Edited by: matthias  Mar 27, 08, 20:35  #182

joepilsudski wrote:
actually, you can look to Brussels to get a small taste of the shape it would take


I agree, but Brussels is not fully democratic.... Population doesn't directly elect the executive branch.... not to mention that Brussels is not that bad... it just tends to be bureaucratic which all governments are.... why not just get rid of all government and we can live like animals in the trees...

joepilsudski wrote:
as an aside, would you take a microchip implant if this 'world government' required it of you, as an ID device, and as a replacement for money/as a means of 'buying and selling'?


that's a tough question...... and I'm glad I don't have to worry about that now... it has its disadvantages but it has its advantages... it should a personal choice if someone wants one or not... For example a chip to monitor my health than yeah I would probably get one... all technology has advantages and disadvantages... that's life...

example is GPS in cars.... your movements can be tracked but at the same time if you car gets stolen you can get it back... GPS in cars wasn't invented to create the NWO and keep track of people but it was invented to help with directions and recover stolen cars...


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matthias
Edited by: matthias  Mar 28, 08, 00:11  #183

No Solidarity for Envoys to Poland

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/27/AR2008 032702969_3.html

Just goes to show that all people argue.... especially in Politics, even behind closed doors.... Just wondering how its possible for the NWO to succeed.. Like I said before tens of thousands of people need to be in on the conspiracy... it's impossible to maintain such cohesion.... All it would take is one person to crack and the secret would be out.....


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WAKEUPPOLAND2
Edited by: WAKEUPPOLAND2  Mar 29, 08, 15:14  #184

matthias wrote:
GPS in cars wasn't invented to create the NWO and keep track of people but it was invented to help with directions and recover stolen cars...


You have to be naive to think that our governments/blue chip corporations/oligarchs would fund such benevolent activities such as recovering your stolen car or help you find your local rehab center (only kidding) using such advanced technology as GPS.

Lets shatter your naiviety:
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It is often forgotten that GPS is still a military device built by the Department of Defense at a cost of $12 billion and intended primarily for military use. That fact has led to one of the few controversies surrounding the remarkably successful system. As with any new technology, progress brings risk, and GPS potentially could be used to aid smugglers, terrorists, or hostile forces. The Pentagon made the GPS system available for commercial use only after being pressured by the companies that built the equipment and saw the enormous potential market for it.
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Do you also think that nuclear fission was originally invested, researched and achieved to provide us with cheap electricity....? .... Hiroshima and Nagasaki ? !!!!WAKEUP MAT!!!


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joepilsudski
Edited by: joepilsudski  Mar 29, 08, 15:33  #185

matthias wrote:
Just wondering how its possible for the NWO to succeed.. Like I said before tens of thousands of people need to be in on the conspiracy... it's impossible to maintain such cohesion.... All it would take is one person to crack and the secret would be out.....


There are thousands in on it, but it happens at different levels, and is what so would call 'compartment-alized'...it is like a pyramid...many, many people have talked about it, thousands a matter of fact...but picture it like this: it is a giant corporation: the CEO and the Board of Directors see the big picture, the managers see a little less, the workers not much at all, and the accountants view it from another angle...and sometimes the cohesion breaks down, as is happening in the US
right now.

WAKEUPPOLAND2 wrote:
You have to be naive to think that our governments/blue chip corporations/oligarchs would fund such benevolent activities such as recovering your stolen car or help you find your local rehab center (only kidding) using such advanced technology as GPS.


Some of the GPS technology is beneficial to the mass of people, for communications purpose, etc...for corporations, it makes money...but there are also sinister uses for it, especially in the hands of military/intelligence elements...
I also wanted to take a moment to thank you for your many intelligent posts...most of us don't see the big picture until a very late hour.

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Seanus
  Mar 29, 08, 15:51  #186

The important thing with the NWO is not always the cohesion to sustain it, it can be more the express will to create and prolong it. With a hefty apparatus behind u, this can be actualised


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WAKEUPPOLAND2
Edited by: WAKEUPPOLAND2  Mar 29, 08, 15:58  #187

joepilsudski wrote:
Some of the GPS technology is beneficial to the mass of people, for communications purpose, etc...for corporations, it makes money...but there are also sinister uses for it, especially in the hands of military/intelligence elements...


Thanks for the compliment, but I must say yours are much more articulate. Its good to know that there are some people out there who are not walking blindly.
Actually there are quite a few people who know that there's something going on, but they are still living in the bliss of democracy, freedom of speech and the war on terror.

I would be a fool to not see the many benefits that GPS and other such technologies have provided us....

My main point was that in many cases such benefits are/were spillover commerical technologies from military or security related advancements that were made decades or so ago for which a sinister purpose was originally planned.


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joepilsudski
Edited by: joepilsudski  Mar 29, 08, 16:08  #188

WAKEUPPOLAND2 wrote:
My main point was that in many cases such benefits are/were spillover commerical technologies from military or security related advancements that were made decades or so ago for which a sinister purpose was originally planned.


Yes...and don't underestimate your own 'articulateness'!...this comes of it's own accord when you attempt to get at the truth.

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Seanus
  Mar 29, 08, 16:10  #189

Level of articulation. 2 bright dudes for sure


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miranda
  Mar 29, 08, 16:11  #190

Seanus wrote:
Level of articulation. 2 bright dudes for sure

lol


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joepilsudski
Edited by: joepilsudski  Mar 29, 08, 16:11  #191

Seanus wrote:
Level of articulation. 2 bright dudes for sure

Three...please include yourself...love and kisses for all of us.

miranda wrote:
lol

A big kiss for you also, my dear.

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miranda
  Mar 29, 08, 16:13  #192

joepilsudski wrote:
Three...please include yourself...love and kisses for all of us.

treesome, I see;)


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Seanus
  Mar 29, 08, 16:17  #193

We're getting ever more poplar. Oakey I say.


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joepilsudski
  Mar 29, 08, 16:18  #194

miranda wrote:
treesome, I see;)


Czwórka rezygnować ty , mój Drogi!

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Seanus
  Mar 29, 08, 16:19  #195

The more the merrier. Too many cooks spoil the broth doesn't apply here ;)


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matthias
  Mar 29, 08, 16:21  #196

joepilsudski wrote:
There are thousands in on it, but it happens at different levels, and is what so would call 'compartment-alized'...it is like a pyramid...many, many people have talked about it, thousands a matter of fact...but picture it like this: it is a giant corporation: the CEO and the Board of Directors see the big picture, the managers see a little less, the workers not much at all, and the accountants view it from another angle...and sometimes the cohesion breaks down, as is happening in the US
right now.


Very smart and very good point, differance is that their isn't one CEO there are a hundred if not thousand CEO's vying for control.... mostly fighting against each other because each has his or her own interest. NWO is not going to happen, anyways a NWO is not a bad thing as long as it's democratic....

joepilsudski wrote:
Some of the GPS technology is beneficial to the mass of people, for communications purpose, etc...for corporations, it makes money...but there are also sinister uses for it, especially in the hands of military/intelligence elements...


agreed exept the military use..... yes it's used to catch criminals, it's used to guide missles, whats so sinister about this?????

WAKEUPPOLAND2 wrote:
My main point was that in many cases such benefits are/were spillover commerical technologies from military or security related advancements that were made decades or so ago for which a sinister purpose was originally planned.


thats also true, and once again whats so sinister about this????


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Seanus
  Mar 29, 08, 16:25  #197

I refer everyone back to the PNAC thread which outlines, albeit in coded terms, the hegemonistic agenda being sought after.

The guiding of the missiles isn't the problem, the reaching of the target is.

On the first point, ever heard of the highest bidder Matty?


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miranda
  Mar 29, 08, 16:25  #198

so, what's new?


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Seanus
  Mar 29, 08, 16:30  #199

What's new? My underwear


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matthias
  Mar 29, 08, 16:39  #200

Seanus wrote:
On the first point, ever heard of the highest bidder Matty?


what are you trying to prove here??????


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Seanus
  Mar 29, 08, 16:44  #201

U gave the scenario of quasi CEO's vying for control amongst one another. The weaker bidders may bow to the highest bidder and let them be top dog and pull the strings. The highest bidder may call the shots with only checks and balances to restrain them. U c what I'm hitting at?

Even in the real world, u have careerists trying to climb (or sleep) their way to the top. This pursuit of the no1 slot is the lifetime ambition of many. Look at Dick Cheney


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isthatu
  Mar 29, 08, 16:47  #202

Seanus wrote:
(or sleep) their way to the top.

hhhmmm,Natasha Kaplinsky springs to mind......


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matthias
  Mar 29, 08, 16:47  #203

Seanus wrote:
U gave the scenario of quasi CEO's vying for control amongst one another. The weaker bidders may bow to the highest bidder and let them be top dog and pull the strings. The highest bidder may call the shots with only checks and balances to restrain them. U c what I'm hitting at?


I see but what you don't seem to understand, that their are thousands of big hitters, not one more powerful than the next..... One bigger hitter has influence with Bush's dad, and another with Bush himself, and another with the VP. Sometimes they overlap..... They all cancel each other out...... Hope your smelling what Im cookin...


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Seanus
  Mar 29, 08, 16:52  #204

Trust me, there are some that hit much harder than others, tho I catch ur drift. U r cookin sewer rat?


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matthias
Edited by: matthias  Mar 29, 08, 17:04  #205

Seanus wrote:
Trust me, there are some that hit much harder than others,


Yes of course, but there are many who are fairly evenly matched...... It's like soccer players, some are better than others but the best ones are pretty much evenly matched....

Seanus wrote:
U r cookin sewer rat?


Close enough....


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Seanus
  Mar 29, 08, 17:09  #206

U've just proved my point, there are hardhitters who can be clearly identified, let's call them families (Rockefeller and Rothschild). The other ones are fairly evenly matched, I agree.

U've just described a management hierarchy beautifully. Could be the Nazi regime too.


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matthias
  Mar 29, 08, 17:14  #207

Seanus wrote:
U've just proved my point, there are hardhitters who can be clearly identified, let's call them families (Rockefeller and Rothschild). The other ones are fairly evenly matched, I agree.


what are you trying to prove here?????

my point is, as in soccer even though they all play the same sport, soccer players are on differant teams. They play against each other....


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Seanus
  Mar 29, 08, 17:16  #208

Testing testing 1,2,3

Testing testing 1,2,3

Testing testing 1,2,3

Testing testing 1,2,3

Yeah, I can copy and paste too Matty

what are you trying to prove here?????

Read my hierarchy comment

what are you trying to prove here?????


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matthias
  Mar 29, 08, 17:19  #209

Seanus wrote:
Testing testing 1,2,3

Testing testing 1,2,3

Testing testing 1,2,3

Testing testing 1,2,3


lmao... btw I read it I don't see your point, is that supposed to prove their must be some sinister goal because their are many powerful people in the world?????


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Seanus
  Mar 29, 08, 17:21  #210

OK, let me steer u closer, just don't underestimate the possibility of the US being manipulated by key players.


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