delphiandomine Threads: 51 / Posts: 12,751
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Jul 30, 2011, 12:07pm #59
Just ask yourself a question , why there was no other non Russian investigators right on the spot ? Few reports were missing ( the vital one of the controller`s ) . Polish prosecutors were just puppets .
That's a pretty serious allegation to make. Bear in mind that the report actually does contain heavy criticism of the controllers - and they are mentioned as one of the contributory causes of the accident.
Putin ( former KGB agent ) is the last Russian to be trusted . Their report is just one big lie as Putin as the head of the investigation had the final word about the report contents .
Whether or not you trust the Russians is one thing, but I trust the Poles. The guys investigating this were some of the top guys in the country - to accuse them of being puppets is very, very serious stuff.
Nothing would help, as they were given wrong flight course by flight controllers . Wrong course just seconds before landing means inevitable crash .
Again - you don't seem to understand the concept of minima. If they had kept to the minimums that they were authorised to go to (it's all in the report) - then the plane wouldn't have crashed. The Captain went way, way below them - and that caused the crash. Unless of course, you're telling me that there were obstacles at the 100-130m (Barometric) height? That's news to me.
Like I said there were other important factors , one of the most important was the idea of landing on the russian air force tarmac unequipped with modern technology devices .( it was not any civil airport by all means ) .
Correct, it was sheer idiocy to put the President and Prime Minister there. The airport was essentially a piece of tarmac with some very basic landing aids - and was more or less not operating as an airport. The state (as shown in the report) of the infrastructure was shocking and certainly not suitable for a 'HEAD' flight.
The modern electronical equipment was removable .
Perhaps so. However, it's an irrelevance - as far as the Poles knew, there was no ILS installed at Smolensk-North. At the end of the day - if there was such equipment or not, it really doesn't matter - it wasn't being used on this approach and that's that.
If someone iportant was langing the devices were being installed , why at that day they were not . It was someone`s mistake not to install such for the polish aplane to give it safer conditions . In such case they would be able to land in a fog , whatever .
Again - it's the captain's responsibility to fly the plane safely. If there was no ILS, then he shouldn't have been taking risks - and he certainly shouldn't have gone below 100m barometric. Of course, an ILS system would help - but it wasn't there, so what were they doing going below 100m?
If I was a person to decide I would never land on such tarmac I would chose the civil airport .
That's why the Defence Minister has gone.
You're actually right here - it was sheer madness to allow a plane with the President to go to such an airport, even in perfect weather conditions - they simply weren't set up for accepting such flights. Even the Russians were pretty reluctant to allow them to land there before that day - and you can hear from the ATC discussions that they were preparing to send them to Moscow.
The fact that the BOR officers couldn't gain access to the airfield should have been enough reason to not go there.
Monia, some Poles do have blood on their hands, but at the end of the day - the commander of the plane took it into the ground, not anyone else. It happens a hell of a lot - I seem to remember a figure of 1/3rd of aviation accidents are due to pilots flying planes into the ground. The CASA accident was a great example, as was Korean Air Flight 801 among countless others.
It happens :(