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Józef Szaniawski, - Tragic death of patriot from Poland


Polonius3 994 | 12,367
8 Sep 2012 #1
Jóżef Szaniawski, the PRL's last politcial prisoner, and lawyer of Col. Kukliński, died in a mountain-climbing accident in the Tatras earlier this week. Szanaiwski had negotiated the annulment of Jabberwocky's death sentence on Kukliński and his return to Poland. Some are wondering whether Szaniawski didn't share the fate of Kukliński's two sons, both of whom died in mysterious cirucmstances.
Zibi - | 336
8 Sep 2012 #2
Old news
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
8 Sep 2012 #3
Some are wondering whether Szaniawski didn't share the fate of Kukliński's two sons, both of whom died in mysterious cirucmstances.

Some?

Please provide sources. They don't have to be reliable, but showing that people are actually talking about it in Poland would be a start.
OP Polonius3 994 | 12,367
8 Sep 2012 #4
Today's Polska the Times p. 6.
smurf 39 | 1,971
8 Sep 2012 #5
internet pages don't have page numbers in the same as as newspapers do.
Give us a link there chap will ya?
sobieski 106 | 2,118
8 Sep 2012 #6
Today's Polska the Times p. 6.

polska the times is not a reliable source, it is a smolenkist mouthpiece, specialized in inventing the wildest theories - even the Grimm brothers would scratch their head at the fairy-tale level of their stories.
OP Polonius3 994 | 12,367
8 Sep 2012 #7
No link, I was reading the paper version.
boletus 30 | 1,361
8 Sep 2012 #8
Some are wondering whether Szaniawski didn't share the fate of Kukliński's two sons, both of whom died in mysterious cirucmstances.

This death, the circumstances, the context are unbelievable. Again, questions abound how was it possible - likewise many other questions of recent years, especially since the Smolensk tragedy.Again, there were no witnesses ...

- wPolityce.pl
You must be really mad, Polonius3, joining the idiots like those in "wPolityce". So find yourself the biggest possible mallet and ... you know what to do next.

On Tuesday morning there was a phone call to Tatra Voluntary Rescue Service in Zakopane (TOPR) from a climber, who informed a rescuer on duty that he saw a man falling down in vicinity of Świnica Peak [off a cliff in the direction of the Valley of Five Ponds - other source]. Due to bad weather conditions the TOPR's helicopter had trouble starting. After paramedics arrived at the place of the accident they immediately began to resuscitate the man [which lasted almost one hour - other source]. At one point, they managed to restore the heart beat, but then it stopped again. The tourist died.
...
- This is a difficult trail, located at an altitude of 2,000 m above sea level. There are many accidents here - says Jan Krzysztof, Head of TOPR in Zakopane.

Some comments to the above:

- another victim of a serial "suicider". ... peace to his soul. Let's hope that's the truth comes to light

- I could not say whether he slipped or fainted but I saw him falling down. This was shocking, so you idiots hit youseself in your heads [with heavy objects] and do not write such crap here

- The accident took place on Tuesday around 11:00 am. According to TOPR rescuers Szaniawski probably slipped on traverse of Blue Crag, on the trail that connects Świnica with Zawrat and fell from height of about 40-50 meters off the cliff to the valley under the Wheel.

The TOPR helicopter reached the place only after the third trial; the task was difficult due to low ceiling of clouds and fog. Szaniawski was being resuscitated - unsuccessfully - by paramedics who were just passing the area of ​​the accident. This is yet another fatal accident in Tatra here. Only in August two people died in the area of ​​Blue Trail.

A RMF FM reporter has determined that there is probably no witness of the accident. The tourists who notified TOPR saw only the falling body of a man.
sobieski 106 | 2,118
8 Sep 2012 #9
My guess Nazi flying saucers did it.
Maybe TOPR is a secret PO agency?
OP Polonius3 994 | 12,367
8 Sep 2012 #10
Samobójstwo po polsku: sekcja zwłok wykazała trzy strzały w potylicę, w tym pierwszy śmiertelny.
Suicide Polish style: the autopsy showed three shots to the back of the head, the first of which was fatal.
sobieski 106 | 2,118
8 Sep 2012 #11
And which paper was writing this? Any references?
Maybe TOPR did it?
boletus 30 | 1,361
8 Sep 2012 #12
That's only some generic insinuation by Polonius3.

Under the comments to that nasty article in "wPolityce" there are two following entries:

Filip Frąckowiak (80.239.242.***) 5 września, 1:57

no u was już wiadomo: "ruscy" Uprzejmie proszę o uszanowanie nas i powagi sytuacji w jakiej się znaleźliśmy. Od Jacka Karnowskiego myślę, że mam prawo tego oczekiwać.

(Well, here everything is already known: "the ruskis". I am asking politely to show respect to us and to seriousness of the situation in which we found ourselves now. I think I have the right to expect it from Jacek Karnowski)

Filip Frąckowiak-Szaniawski (80.239.242.***) 5 września, 2:04

Filip Frąckowiak, a journalist, is a son of Halina Frąckowiak and Józef Szaniawski.


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