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POLES FEEL LIKE JEWS HAVE TOO MUCH CONTROL IN POLAND - TRUE?

gumishu Threads: 18
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  ♂   Mar 18, 2011, 10:14pm  #151

Ironside:
Yeah? Do you claim to know what was going on at the time?


sorry but it is well established by science that Slavs moved west and south starting 6th century starting from around middle run of Dniepr river - it is attested by archeological cultures and by early ancient geographies

Wosiu     Edited by: Moderator  Mar 19, 2011, 12:04pm  #152

Can you tell me how many Jewish presidents of Poland there have been?No?OK,

Why not?

Wojciech Jaruzelski - Russian Jew camouflaged as Polish nobleman,

Lech Wałęsa - according to some sources, a Jew with true name Lejba Kohne, according to other, jewish/gypsy mix,

Aleksander Kwaśniewski - pure Jew, true name of his father - Stoltzmann, Kwaśniewski`s wife - also pure Jewess, name Konty,

present Bronisław Komorowski - not a Jew but with Jewish wife.

Wosiu     Mar 19, 2011, 12:35pm  #153

Bratwurst Boy:
Also....all this colored territories had been settled by german tribes till 1 AD


Bullshit! This is German nazi propaganda.

The true is that whole territory of present Poland and west half of present Germany were prehistoric Slavic territories.

Slavs are indigenous to present Poland territory and according to newest genetics, Slavs can be traced there back to 10.000 B.C.!

There are two things:

1. Slavs are much older Indoeuropeans than Germanic or Romanic nations, Slavic languages are very similar to classic Indian Sanskrit laguage (any Slac can understand ewen now many Sanskrit words).

2. So-called Aryan haplogroup R1A1 is distributed mostly among Poles, Tajiks and bramins in northern India (more than 50%)



In summary, Poles are direct descendants of Slavic Aryans which first moved to East from central Europe, established so-called Kurgan Civilisation and next conquered Indian subcontinent inhabited by black Dravidians and established classic Indian civilisation.
This was abt. 2.000 B.C. when Germans were still in caves.

BTW. According to genetics, Germans are not Aryan descendants nor even true germanic nation: they are mix of Germanic and Slavs and others.

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  ♂  :-( Mar 19, 2011, 12:49pm  #154

gumishu:
attested by archeological cultures

As I have said before, archaeological cultures are one end of a maze but to connect them with ethnicity is a different kettle of fish, altogether.
For example, in the future, provided that most of the records would be destroyed, archaeologist could assume that Poland's territory was settled by Americans, because of extensive amount of buttons from jeans found here.
What I'm trying to convey, is that no archaeological findings alone can tell you ethnicity and all the intrinsic and complex connections of a identified archaeological culture.

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  ♂  :-( Mar 19, 2011, 12:52pm  #155

Wosiu:
Wojciech Jaruzelski - Russian Jew camouflaged as Polish nobleman,

Lech Wałęsa - according to some sources, a Jew with true name Lejba Kohne, according to other, jewish/gypsy mix,

Aleksander Kwaśniewski - pure Jew, true name of his father - Stoltzmann, Kwaśniewski`s wife - also pure Jewess, name Konty,

present Bronisław Komorowski - not a Jew but with Jewish wife.


Hahahahaha.

The only semi-credible statement there is that Komorowski has a Jewish wife, and even then, it was only her mother that was Jewish - Anna Komorowska is a practicing Polish Catholic.

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  ♂  :-( Mar 19, 2011, 01:00pm  #156

delphiandomine:
The only semi-credible statement there is that Komorowski

is an illiterate moron !

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  ♂   Mar 19, 2011, 01:10pm  #157

Ironside:
is an illiterate moron !


if this is about his spelling mistakes please don't change the subject.

Wosiu     Mar 19, 2011, 01:24pm  #158

delphiandomine:
The only semi-credible statement there is that Komorowski has a Jewish wife, and even then, it was only her mother that was Jewish

Nope. All I stated is true, only with Jaruzelski and Wałęsa there are no hard evidence. Komorowski wife is pure Jewess according to laws of Judaism and laws of state of Israel - jewishness is only after Jewish mother

According to this, also premier Donald Tusk is Jew, after his mother Ewa Dawidowicz.


- Anna Komorowska is a practicing Polish Catholic.

As many crypto-jews in Poland. It is camouflage as their Polish names. In Spain, recently many Jews declared to be Jews after 500 years of conversion to catholicism! In Poland, even abt. 1/3 of catholic bishops have Jewish origin, so "catholicism" is any proof...

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  ♂   Mar 19, 2011, 03:38pm  #159

1. joepilsudski - Please read 'Predator's Ball' by Connie Bruck...The word 'Jew' is never mentioned, but every principal in the book is Jewish, leading man being Michael Milken.

As to point two, greed and swindling is bad whoever does it: If $100000 is swindled, anyone could have done it...If $100000000 is swindled, it had to be a Jewish swindler


Do you actually believe that crap you wrote?

People who "swindle" others out of $100000000 or such amounts are usually politicians.

And they come in all shapes, colors and sizes. Hitler "swindled" millions of people of out their property. So did Stalin. Every halfbit dictator in Africa is trying to do the same thing.

None of them are Jewish.

Hence, please stop feeding us crap.

2. Wosiu -


Wojciech Jaruzelski - Russian Jew camouflaged as Polish nobleman,

Lech Wałęsa - according to some sources, a Jew with true name Lejba Kohne, according to other, jewish/gypsy mix,

Aleksander Kwaśniewski - pure Jew, true name of his father - Stoltzmann, Kwaśniewski`s wife - also pure Jewess, name Konty,

present Bronisław Komorowski - not a Jew but with Jewish wife.


WTF? Looney bin material.

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  ♂   Mar 19, 2011, 04:28pm  #160

Midas:
WTF? Looney bin material.

100% rubbish and pure paranoia. Idiots like Wosio who not only believe this stuff but put it on the internet are a disgrace to Poland and Europe. Total osygen thieves. Fortunately the other 99% are rather more level-headed.

Wosiu     Edited by: Moderator  Mar 19, 2011, 05:07pm  #161

JonnyM:
100% rubbish and pure paranoia. Idiots like Wosio


You are idiot. Uneducated, uninformed, CNN (or TVN in Poland) based idiot. BTW, Wosiu, not Wosio! Do you have problems with letters?

Cut the personal stuff, please.

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  ♂   Edited by: JonnyM  Mar 19, 2011, 05:09pm  #162

Wosiu:
CNN (or TVN in Poland)

Never watch either. I don't even have a TV. Though TVN has an impeccable reputation as an independent broadcaster.

Wosiu     Mar 19, 2011, 05:25pm  #163

JonnyM:
Though TVN has an impeccable reputation as an independent broadcaster.




Oh, really? Independent broadcaster? Established by Jews: Walter and Wejchert from communist SB (secret service, something like that, political police or something similar) thanks to money stolen from state? Independent broadcaster which 33% values were few years ago under Secretary of Jewish World Congress ???

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  ♂   Edited by: JonnyM  Mar 19, 2011, 05:41pm  #164

Wosiu:
Oh, really?

Yes, really. Pure racist paranoia.

So which, if any, Polish broadcaster would you regard as independent?
If none of them, which do you believe is the closest?

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  ♂  :-( Mar 19, 2011, 06:49pm  #165

Wosiu:
As many crypto-jews in Poland.

How about you then?
BTW who cares, one way or the other they claim to be Polish, should be shot as traitors and thieving pests !

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  ♂   Edited by: Midas  Mar 19, 2011, 06:56pm  #166

Ok...

While I thought this was only a favorite past time in out-of-the-way, post-PGR villages or right wing party meetings, Wosiu has indeed enlightened me. Come on, let us all have fun, let's create a "Jew list"

Wosiu's contributions so far:

1. Wojciech Jaruzelski - no known aliases,

2. Lech Walesa* - "Lejba Kochne",

3. Aleksander Kwasniewski - "Stoltzmann",

4. Jolanta Kwasniewska - "Konty"

5. Komorowski's wife - no known aliases.

6. Wejchert - no known aliases.

7. Walter - no known aliases.

* - possibly a half-gypsy.

Due to my unique knowledge and insight I will let you guys in on a few secrets... Here are my contributions to the list:

8. Adam Malysz - "Icchak Jumpenstein"

9. Mariusz Pudzianowski - "Eyal Bicepsovitz"

10. Jak Kulczyk - "Lowa Goldrauch"

11. Dorota "Doda" Rabczewska - "Golda Kleincycen"


There. Now you know, Wosiu.

Anyone else wants to make contributions?

How about you then?
BTW who cares, one way or the other they claim to be Polish, should be shot as traitors and thieving pests !


Take a jump off a cliff yourself, now will you?

U.S. has Italian-Americans, Irish-Americans, German-Americans, Chinese-Americans, Indian-Americans, Mexican-Americans, Jewish-Americans and so forth. It all works.

What's the big problem then about being a Polish Jew?

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  ♂  :-( Mar 19, 2011, 07:02pm  #167

Midas:
Take a jump off a cliff yourself, now will you?

Are you talking to me ?
Midas:
Dorota "Doda" Rabczewska - "Golda Kleincycen"

that a good one :D

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  ♂   Mar 19, 2011, 07:04pm  #168

^^ Unless Your post about "shooting crypto-jews" due to them being "traitors" and "thieving pests" contained sarcasm that I missed then yup, I was talking to You.

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  ♂   Mar 19, 2011, 07:10pm  #169

I am a crypto-Jew.
Oy.
Did I just said it loudly?
It shall be a secret, dammit. :)

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  ♂  :-( Edited by: Ironside  Mar 19, 2011, 07:10pm  #170

Wosiu:
Wojciech Jaruzelski

Lech Wałęsa

Aleksander Kwaśniewski -

present Bronisław Komorowski

Wosiu:
As many crypto-jews in Poland.
How about you then?

Ironside:
BTW who cares, one way or the other they claim to be Polish, should be shot as traitors and thieving pests !


Did I make myself clear, this time?

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  ♂   Mar 19, 2011, 07:15pm  #171

Ironside - Ok, I'll be very precise to avoid any confusion.

If you advocate killing Polish citizens of Jewish descent/Jewish people because they are supposedly "traitors" or whatever - then kindly please locate the nearest concrete wall and bang your head on it until whatever passes for a brain in your case turns to red jello.

If you don't = no problem.

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  ♂  :-( Mar 19, 2011, 07:25pm  #172

Midas:
If you don't = no problem.

Gee, of-course I don't, I was talking about the names on the short list I quoted.
Also I asked wosiu whatever he is crypto-jew!
**** was is that difficult to understand?

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  ♂   Mar 19, 2011, 07:33pm  #173

Many apologies in this case, I guess the level of absurd in this thread got to me :-(

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  ♂   Mar 19, 2011, 07:35pm  #174

Both Poles and Jews on this forum should read a book about Poles who rescued Jews in Poland during WW2. Code Name: Zegota - Rescuing Jews in Occupied Poland, 1942-1945 by Irenewski Tomaszewski and Tecia Werbowski (Santa Barbara, Ca. Praeger, 2010),

This is the second revised edition of a book first published in 1994, and written by two women: Tecia Werbowski, a Jewish girl who with her mother was rescued from the Lvov ghetto by Polish Catholics, later identified as members of Zagota; and Irene Tomaszewski, a Polish girl born in a Soviet labor camp in Siberia soon after her parents were deported there. These two met in Montreal in the early 1990's and joined together to relate this account of rescuing Jews in occupied Poland.

Both Jews and non-Jews sheltered Jews during the Holocaust. The best known Polish rescuer of Jews was Irena Sendler, a young social worker, employed by the Welfare Department of the Warsaw municipality. After the German occupation, the department continued caring for a great number of Warsaw's poor and dispossessed people. Irena Sendler took advantage of her job in order to help Jews, but this became almost impossible once the ghetto was sealed off in November 1940. Irena Sendler, at great personal danger, managed to get a permit from the municipality that enabled her to enter the ghetto to inspect sanitary conditions. Once inside, she established contact with Jewish welfare organization activists and began to smuggle Jews, especially children, out of the ghetto and find hiding places for them. The Jewish Community Center in Posnen has a chapel; and the cover for the Holy Ark that contains a Torah scroll is dedicated to Irene Sendler. Maurycy Herling-Grudzinski is an outstanding example of Jewish self-help. A wealthy Jewish lawyer who passed as a Pole throughout the occupation, he was able to hide 5-600 of his fellow Jews on his estate near Warsaw.

The Council to Aid Jews, code-named Zegota, often misrepresented as only a Polish organization, was actually a joint Polish-Jewish organization, whose two Jewish member organizations, the Bund and the Jewish National Committee, between them (according to Gunner Paulsson in Secret City: The Hidden Jews of Warsaw 1940-1945) looked after twice as many Jews as the Polish branch did, and helped subsidized the Polish operation financially, although our authors state that 90% of the money came from the Polish Government in Exile and only 10% from Jewish organizations. Norman Davies, in the new forward to the second edition states that “At least half of all the Jews who survived the Holocaust in Poland did so thanks to the heroic efforts of Zegota.”

Political parties were the first to organize rescue efforts that naturally were directed to their own members and then to allied groups. For example, the Polish Socialists helped the Bund (Jewish Socialists) and the Zionist youth movements had some contacts with the Polish Scouts. Later, help was sometimes extended to outsiders, but it was hard to trust people without years of personal experience. The first slate of officers of Zegota included a representative of the Polish Socialist Party, the Peasant Party, the Bund, Zionist Poale Zion Party, the Democratic Party and two liaisons from the Front for Reborn Poland. All of these individuals were already in the underground and active in helping Jews.

When Zegota was established in the fall 1942, (after 280,000 Jews had already been deported from Warsaw to Treblinka) Sendler became one of its main activists. Zagota played a crucial role in the rescue of several thousand Jews who had survived the massive deportations in the summer of 1942. In September 1943, four months after the Warsaw ghetto uprising, Sendler was appointed director of Zegota’s Department for the Care of Jewish Children. Sendler exploited her contacts with orphanages and institutes for abandoned children, to send Jewish children to them. Hundreds of children were sent to the Family of Mary Orphanage in Warsaw, and to religious institutions run by nuns in nearby Chomotow, and in Turkowice, near Lublin. The exact number of children saved by Sendler and her partners is unknown, but it might be over 2,000. On October 20,1943 Sendler was arrested, tortured and sentenced to death, but four months later underground activists managed to bribe officials to release her.

Sendler was not the only Pole to be sentenced to death by the Nazis. Almost 2,800 (15%) of all Polish priests and monks were killed. Of them, 60 (2%) were executed for helping Jews. Of 17,000 nuns, 289 were killed. Of them, 10 (3%) were shot for helping Jews (p.6 & p.28). Some might say that 70 Polish clergy killed for helping rescue Jews was a small number, but that number is much higher than the the number of German or French clergy killed for the same 'crime'. Similarly, twice as many Poles as French were awarded Righteous among the Nations medals as of 1/1/10, (6,195 compared to 3,158) yet the percentage of Jews surviving in France was greater than in Poland. Because 90% of Poland's Jews were killed by the Nazis, and because 1,500 of the 200,000 plus Jews who returned from Soviet exile after the war were killed by Poles while fighting each other (p.99), many people have falsely concluded that Poles did not do anything to help Jews during the war. This is not true. The sad truth is that while great evils can be done by people in powerful organizations, great good is usually done by individuals who are few in number. The many personal accounts of Poles who rescued Jews in this book makes that evident. Reviewed by Rabbi Allen Maller

Wosiu     Mar 19, 2011, 10:44pm  #175

Midas:
U.S. has Italian-Americans, Irish-Americans, German-Americans, Chinese-Americans, Indian-Americans, Mexican-Americans, Jewish-Americans and so forth. It all works.


Are you from US? If so, look around first how it works.

What's the big problem then about being a Polish Jew?

No problem!!! Being Polish Jew is like being member of ruling class in Poland, khmm, not Poland exactly, because Poland is dead. It is wonderful to be Jew in Polestina aka Judeopolonia, now. You may be untalented, ugly girl like Anna Mucha or Magdalena Schejbal but you will be media starlet just because you are Jewish. You may be untalented, stupid man, but you will be "high level professional specialist" in any branch, because you are Jewish. There are abt. 500-700.000 Jews in Polestina, all in main positions in state structures and in business. In last years, there are abt. 100.000 new Jews in Polestina, mainly from US and Israel, because of "rapid way" for Polish passport, established by former president Kwaśniewski, when Jew can get Polish passport during 3 weeks (as to the true Pole from - for example - Kazahstan or Russia, it may be 3 years to obtain Polish passport).
Polestina is third Israel now, Polsrael, after Israel and USrael...

So, I see now, that this forum should be probably rightly named PolJewishForums.com....

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  ♂   Mar 19, 2011, 11:39pm  #176

Wosiu -

Are you from US? If so, look around first how it works.

I visit the U.S. often enough. Works so well they happen to be the world's first ( China's closing in ) superpower.

Regarding all the rest:

Polestina aka Judeopolonia

being Polish Jew is like being member of ruling class in Poland

If You're on meds - quit taking them. If You're not on meds You probably should visit a doctor.

I'm Jewish.

I'm in Poland regularly.

Haven't noticed the "Jewish invasion" that you so colorfully describe. I'd also very much like to read the text of an appropriate binding legal act that will allow for a Jew whose parents weren't Polish citizens to obtain a Polish passport in 3 weeks.

Since I'm fluent in Polish by all means please throw in an appropriate link from www.sejm.gov.pl ( all binding Polish legal acts are there as well as a lot of historical ones ).

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  ♂   Mar 20, 2011, 01:27am  #177

Some more news I found. Jews really try to control the USA. Have a read:

thenews.pl/international/default.aspx?id=151418#comments

"The Ministry of Foreign Affairs is to present a document signed in the 1960s by Poland and the United States which shows that Washington effectively gave up its right to represent its citizens in such restitution cases.

Talking to Polish Radio on Thursday morning, Radoslaw Sikorski said that "the United States gave up the right to represent its citizens in such cases and took the burden upon itself to pay out restitution money worth millions which Poland had already paid to the United States."


"However, American pressure on Poland to pay out restitution claims has not pleased Radoslaw Sikorski, who told Polish Radio Thursday morning that "if the United States would have wanted to help Polish Jews, a good moment for that would have been 1943-44, when the majority of them were still alive, and Poland was pleading for help through the voice of Jan Karski."

"Such an intervention is now too late," Sikorski concluded.

During his mission in 1942, Karski provided evidence of German extermination policy against the Jews to the London based Polish government-in-exile, as well as to top British and US politicians and the press."

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  ♂   Mar 20, 2011, 03:07am  #178

rychlik:

Some more news I found. Jews really try to control the USA. Have a read:

thenews.pl/international/default.aspx?id=151418#comments

"The Ministry of Foreign Affairs is to present a document signed in the 1960s by Poland and the United States which shows that Washington effectively gave up its right to represent its citizens in such restitution cases.

Talking to Polish Radio on Thursday morning, Radoslaw Sikorski said that "the United States gave up the right to represent its citizens in such cases and took the burden upon itself to pay out restitution money worth millions which Poland had already paid to the United States."


"However, American pressure on Poland to pay out restitution claims has not pleased Radoslaw Sikorski, who told Polish Radio Thursday morning that "if the United States would have wanted to help Polish Jews, a good moment for that would have been 1943-44, when the majority of them were still alive, and Poland was pleading for help through the voice of Jan Karski."

"Such an intervention is now too late," Sikorski concluded.

During his mission in 1942, Karski provided evidence of German extermination policy against the Jews to the London based Polish government-in-exile, as well as to top British and US politicians and the press."


Most property loss claims are by non-Jews from Poland and they have gotten little to no compensation. So why should Jews be compensated first?

The element of the Jewish community that is pushing for this type of exaggerated compensation is called the Holocaust Industry, according to Jewish American professor Norman Finkelstein.

In this interview he talks about other shakedowns from the Holocaust Industry

Interview with Holocaust Industry author Norman Finkelstein
Part 1
youtube.com/watch?v=5BaJCRXsgt4
Part 2
youtube.com/watch?v=HaeMT44yX2M&feature=related
Part 3
youtube.com/watch?v=Y-UOwwigVGU&feature=related

Poles should unite with Jews such as Norman Finkelstein in fighting this unfair financial burden put on Poland by this powerful selfish self-interest group called the Holocaust Industry.

90% of the Swiss Bank billions of dollars of compensation never went to actual Holocaust survivors and instead went into the bank accounts of Holocaust Industry special interest groups.

Poland didn't start the war and Poland was controlled by a foreign power for 45 years after the war. So why should taxpayers of Poland today pay for something that they and their preceding Poles are not responsible for?

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  ♂  :-( Mar 20, 2011, 03:19am  #179

MediaWatch:
Most property loss claims are by non-Jews from Poland and they have gotten little to no compensation.


Ahaha. You clearly haven't been following the claims by the Catholic Church in Poland - who have been getting awarded astronomical amounts of money. Perhaps you could start by examining the case of the VIII Liceum in Poznan?

MediaWatch:
The element of the Jewish community that is pushing for this type of exaggerated compensation is called the Holocaust Industry, according to Jewish American professor Norman Finkelstein.


Sadly, pushing for astronomical amounts of money is nothing new in Poland. I rather suspect that the Jewish community has seen the absolutely ridiculously large claims awarded to the Catholic Church and has decided to get in on the action. Fair play, I say.

MediaWatch:
Poles should unite with Jews such as Norman Finkelstein in fighting this unfair financial burden put on Poland by this powerful selfish self-interest group called the Holocaust Industry.


I hope you'll also join us in fighting against the large claims awarded to the RCC?

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  ♂   Mar 20, 2011, 03:43am  #180

delphiandomine:
Ahaha. You clearly haven't been following the claims by the Catholic Church in Poland - who have been getting awarded astronomical amounts of money. Perhaps you could start by examining the case of the VIII Liceum in Poznan?


MediaWatch: The element of the Jewish community that is pushing for this type of exaggerated compensation is called the Holocaust Industry, according to Jewish American professor Norman Finkelstein.

Delphiadomine:
Sadly, pushing for astronomical amounts of money is nothing new in Poland. I rather suspect that the Jewish community has seen the absolutely ridiculously large claims awarded to the Catholic Church and has decided to get in on the action. Fair play, I say.


How much money was awarded in this VIII Liecum Poznan case?

What was this absolutely ridiculously large sum awarded to the Catholic Church?

Do you have some links on these?



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