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Poles DO return to the UK


hague1cmaeron 14 | 1,368
3 Oct 2010 #31
I hope you mean he was not as good as Ken Clarke-speaking of what a classic, a man with his own sense of style with those cigars and suede shoes, he is the last of his type I am afraid-one of the first people i would invite to a dinner party
Seanus 15 | 19,674
3 Oct 2010 #32
Ken Clarke was streets ahead. He was one of the smartest Conservative Cabinet members ever. He became a Bilderberger.
hague1cmaeron 14 | 1,368
3 Oct 2010 #33
Indeed, He seems like the type of guy i would really trust in a crisis situation-don't worry chaps we'll muddle through.

If he wasn't so pro Europe, he would have most definitely been Tory leader and then expose phony Tony for what he really was.
Seanus 15 | 19,674
3 Oct 2010 #34
Well, Thatcher's clinging to national sovereignty hardly appears so weird in hindsight. They were onboard with the Europhiles, she wasn't.
trener zolwia 1 | 939
3 Oct 2010 #35
He didn't make the best decisions, true, but he still grasped core ideas.

I think this is the definition of an idiot... Knowing what is right but making the wrong decisions anyway.
Many folks let their misguided Liberalism get the best of them this way.
Seanus 15 | 19,674
4 Oct 2010 #36
He was bullied to follow certain roads that suited others more than the majority. That was the biggest problem.
Teffle 22 | 1,321
4 Oct 2010 #37
Get out of the EU than. But could Poland govern itself without supervision by the EU?

Less to do with governance than a helping financial hand.

Like big beneficiaries before them (most notably Ireland) there is no way, now that they are knee deep in the various funds available to them, that Poland would ever leave the EU without being forcibly kicked out.
Varsovian 91 | 634
4 Oct 2010 #38
Brown had no grasp of economics - to understand this all you have to do is to look at the Public Finance Initiative (private enterprise builds something and makes the public purse pay 10 times over, during 30 years - brilliant!).

He gave family doctors pay rises of 100% by accident!! And they're still unhappy.

He bankrupted the country - economic madness.

True, his decision not to join the euro showed commonsense. There again, he never was one for teams, was he?

Thankfully, he trained up Edward Miliband at the Treasury! Can't wait for when the UK elects him in 2015.

Cameron - why is it that aristocrats are so hard to like? Still, less of an aristo than his wife, Sam, or cousin - Mayor of London, Boris Johnson.

... and I am increasingly interviewing Poles returning to Poland with decent English.
alexw68
4 Oct 2010 #39
Brown had no grasp of economics - to understand this all you have to do is to look at the Public Finance Initiative (private enterprise builds something and makes the public purse pay 10 times over, during 30 years - brilliant!).

A tiny bit unfair on Gorgeous Gordon - PFI had been around since 1992, some 5 years before Labour came in. But you're absolutely right inasmuch as when in power, Labour should have grown a pair and ripped up the scheme rather than digging themselves in deeper.

Still, this is only partial exoneration. Brown's decision to sell 60% of the UK's gold reserve at the bottom of the market looked daft even then - and in retrospect, the decision to hand over regulation of the banks to the Financial Services Authority was just horrific: it allowed a situation where any fool could look good in a protracted boom - and consequently that's just what many fools did.

I'm still reminded of the speech he gave at Lehmans praising the financial services industry and light-touch regulation in 2004. Considering my company did around 350k worth of training for Lehmans in 2008, finishing September 10th, four days before they went tits up, the Gordon doll on my desk does suffer from pins and needles quite regularly these days.


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