Arab Spring activists observe Polish parliamentary election

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Oct 8, 11, 13:59 #1

A group of Arab Spring activists observing Polish parliamentary elections are championing the spirit of civil society, and say such ballots back home will be milestones in turning hard-won freedoms into lasting democracy.

Fifteen activists and election officials - five each from Tunisia, Egypt and Libya - met Friday with deputy foreign ministers Krzysztof Stanowski and Jerzy Pomianowski. They also held a meeting with the members and judges of the State Electoral Commission.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Oct 8, 11, 14:01 #2
What is the Arab Spring, Arshad? What is the significance of this move?

ArshadThreads: 3 Posts: 20 Joined: Sep 1, 11 ♂	Oct 8, 11, 14:03 #3
Well Arab spring refers to the protest going on in different arab countries against the government.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Oct 8, 11, 14:07 #4
I avidly watch George Galloway's various broadcasts so I know what you mean. However, I'd imagine that many Arabs are barely aware of Poland's democratic traditions. The interim establishment in Libya needs a model but to what extent will they 'borrow' from Poland's set-up? What do you feel the Arab Spring fellows will take from the observation process?

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Oct 8, 11, 14:56 #5

It is no wonder that they have chosen Poland as a model country. Poland has a long tradition of democracy. Poland has established the second, after the US, constitution in history and is the only country who successfully achieved freedom from communist regime , the other countries were just followers and were secured by Polish achievements, that Soviets would not intervene as they didn’t in the biggest soviet bloc country . So our nation was really brave to stand against soviet system and did it with success. So, all the Arabic nations should follow Poland in their way to democracy .

The functioning of democratic State-from general election through Parliament to local and regional authorities; creation of the Constitution, the Organization of the elections-are matters the revolutionaries from Tunisia and Egypt will learn during a meeting in Warsaw. This is of course a gigantic task, which cannot be achieved within one Conference and one brief meeting .

Polish officials talked about the essence of these changes, what was the amendment of the Constitution in 1989 and later in 1992. Finally, how we are working on a new Constitution, said one official .
An important element of these changes was the reform of local municipal government, which has settled in the sense of ownership and finances our local communities-said Polish official
The introduction of democracy in the countries directly neighbouring the European Union means, above all stabilization of relationships and interests. An Egyptian activist Walid Rashid stressed that the visit in Poland is mainly to gather information about the functioning of democracy.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Oct 8, 11, 15:00 #6
Very good post, polmed :) An improvement :)

saschaThreads: 13 Posts: 3,857 Joined: Jun 10, 10 ♂	Oct 8, 11, 15:04 #7
it is really very nice to see that those activists chose poland, but all that connected to the 'arab spring' ia leaving me a bitter taste

legendThreads: 9 Posts: 819 Joined: Apr 23, 11 ♂	Oct 8, 11, 15:06 #8
I wonder the day when USA and the North Atlantic Terrorist Organization will SIMMER THE HELL DOWN. This is a large reason those people do not like us and with good reason.

ArshadThreads: 3 Posts: 20 Joined: Sep 1, 11 ♂	Oct 8, 11, 17:43 #9
The Libyans will travel to Radom south of the capital, while the Egyptians journey to Plock, in central Poland, to observe voting and the counting of ballots. Looks like a tie up between Poland and Arab countries.

saschaThreads: 13 Posts: 3,857 Joined: Jun 10, 10 ♂	Dec 11, 11, 22:00 #10
Tunisia will mark the first anniversary of protests that sparked the Arab Spring on 18.12.2011. anyone heard or noticed sth what is going on in tunesia? forgotten children of the revolution???

saschaThreads: 13 Posts: 3,857 Joined: Jun 10, 10 ♂	Dec 17, 11, 18:52 #11
http://rt.com/news/tunisia-anniversary-037/ Tunisia: a year on, slow-burn revolt lingers seems that the word of democracy didnt get in everyones ear? ;)

JonnyMThreads: 16 Posts: 4,487 Joined: Mar 9, 11 ♂	Dec 17, 11, 18:59 #12
Tunisia isn't going to turn into Sweden overnight. To expect changes in the Arab world to happen in a way that isn't Arab is just plain naive.

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Dec 17, 11, 19:05 #13

JonnyM:

Tunisia isn't going to turn into Sweden overnight.

more precise would be: never

JonnyM:

To expect changes in the Arab world to happen in a way that isn't Arab is just plain naive.

really? what makes you say that?
we can see in egypt another great example how the "arab spring" looks like...democracy, for what many even gave their lives, nowhere and will never be. one "kalif" left and the next one will come or is already there.

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,306 Joined: Apr 21, 08 ♂	Dec 17, 11, 19:23 #14
JonnyM: Tunisia isn't going to turn into Sweden overnight More likely that Sweden will turn into Tunisia given the amount of Muslim immigration.

saschaThreads: 13 Posts: 3,857 Joined: Jun 10, 10 ♂	May 2, 12, 21:30 #15
this is probably 'noone would have forseen', right? 'MI6 endorsing Amr Moussa for Egypt president' A team of British spies from UK’s foreign spying apparatus MI6 are in Egypt to run the election campaign of Amr Moussa, who’s affiliated to Western and US governments, a report said. http://www.presstv.ir/detail/239194.html

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