Barack Obama in Poland

Piast PolandThreads: 3 Posts: 272 Joined: Aug 28, 10 ♂	May 26, 11, 20:16 #91
Let him go its a last attempt to strengthen americas relations with others. Europeans and Poles are seeing the mistake that America is and that it should be avoided.

odnauq	May 26, 11, 20:16 #92
Wroclaw: can we get back to: Barack Obama in Poland Yes, will this visit help boost tourism and create more jobs. Do Polish people like having the multinationals moving into your country?

NomadatNetThreads: 6 Posts: 1,492 Joined: Mar 28, 09 ♂	May 26, 11, 20:17 #93
sascha: Exactly. That's like a boss of a big company is coming to see what's going on in his foreign branch office. ;)) Visiting as a boss of a company is better than visiting as army general visiting his soldiers abroad like visit of Putin. At least, Obama's is business, mutual relationship.

PlasticPoleThreads: 10 Posts: 5,432 Joined: May 28, 09 ♀	May 26, 11, 20:18 #94
Antek_Stalich: 3. Are against so-dangerous-to-the-environment shale gas exploration Well, I can understand that. I am sure there will be protests. Politicians are used to that.

Antek_StalichThreads: 6 Posts: 1,533 Joined: May 6, 11 ♂	May 26, 11, 20:23 #95
PlasticPole: Antek_Stalich: 3. Are against so-dangerous-to-the-environment shale gas exploration Well, I can understand that. I am sure there will be protests. Politicians are used to that. I don't know how to answer you in the way not to be suspended.

PlasticPoleThreads: 10 Posts: 5,432 Joined: May 28, 09 ♀	May 26, 11, 20:28 #96
I wonder, if there are protests, if they will make it on the news over here? I haven't heard of any protests so far and there's always protests. What's with the censorship?

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 ♂ [Moderator]	May 26, 11, 20:31 #97
Antek_Stalich: I don't know how to answer you in the way not to be suspended. if it is in line with the topic and what we can expect from the visit, it's safe to post. we don't need any middle east chat in this thread, that's all.

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Edited by: Crow May 26, 11, 20:34 #98
Wroclaw if i may say something dobri pane? what i want to suggest is that Poles needs to arrest that Obama. Yes pane. USA as state collaborate with terrorists, pane, its public secret. As decent member of international community Poland should arrest Obamaniac. See pane, that i wanted to tell here. Thank you pane.

PlasticPoleThreads: 10 Posts: 5,432 Joined: May 28, 09 ♀	May 26, 11, 20:37 #99
Oh, yes, Crow, we know what just happened but they won't be arresting the president in retaliation. That's just silly. There's no reason to arrest our president.

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	May 26, 11, 20:38 #100
PlasticPole: Oh, yes, Crow, we know what just happened but they won't be arresting the president in retaliation. That's just silly. There's no reason to arrest our president. we all know who are biggest terrorists of this world and that biggest maniacs walk freely. Let us speak openly about it. Why BS and BS and BS?

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May 26, 11, 20:38 #101

NomadatNet:

Visiting as a boss of a company is better than visiting as army general visiting his soldiers abroad like visit of Putin. At least, Obama's is business, mutual relationship

You are funny today and as usual completely one-sided/biased.
That 'company' methafore was more like in the middle ages, where one is the boss and the others are vassals. Understood?

NomadatNet:

mutual relationship.

Like every so called realtion with nwo. hahahaha

NomadatNetThreads: 6 Posts: 1,492 Joined: Mar 28, 09 ♂	May 26, 11, 20:38 #102
PlasticPole: There's no reason to arrest our president. He is half black. Enough reason for Crow to arrest him.

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Edited by: Crow May 26, 11, 20:43 #103
NomadatNet: He is half black. Enough reason for Crow to arrest him. USA collaboration with terrorists of this world isn`t racial question. its a fact that endangers and ridiculing very fundaments of civilization and democracy. Now, Obama is head of USA state. Go arrest him

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Edited by: NomadatNet May 26, 11, 20:43 #104

sascha:

Like every so called relation with nwo. hahahaha

NWO, NWO, NWO... New World Order..
You prefer OWO ? ... Old World Order, that is still alive and mostly monarchy everywhere and I don't mean metaphor by monarchy here.

Crow:

USA collaboration with terrorists of this world isn`t racial question. its a fact that endangers and ridiculing very fundaments of civilization

Come on, Crow, Obama is civil, one of most civil presidents of the world now and I am not joking.. You can't arrest such a president. (maybe, you still think Bush is still in the power seat? Wake up - hes gone, in Nov 2008)

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May 26, 11, 20:52 #105

PlasticPole:

Antek_Stalich: 3. Are against so-dangerous-to-the-environment shale gas exploration
Well, I can understand that. I am sure there will be protests. Politicians are used to that.

The protests against exploration of shale gas could be compared to someone going to Saudi Arabia (sorry, Mod!) many years ago and saying oil & gas exploration there would be dangerous to their environment. I would say Polish exploration of shale gas would make Poland independent of Russia, therefore I see protests against shale gas exploration as anti-Polish and suicidal.

Returning to Obama, anarchists threatening the President are going too far.

saschaThreads: 13 Posts: 3,857 Joined: Jun 10, 10 ♂	May 26, 11, 20:56 #106
Antek_Stalich: Returning to Obama, anarchists threatening the President are going too far. Not that I am supporting that, but when you come to the 'old continet, like some wise us politician once said', you'll get the whole package. Simple as that. Here in Europe, also in Poland, we still have sth that looks like pluralism.

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Edited by: Crow May 26, 11, 21:19 #107

NomadatNet:

Come on, Crow, Obama is civil, one of most civil presidents of the world now and I am not joking..

just look how Obama reacts in case with Libya. He is maniac by all standards and now, maniac walk on the streets of Poland

In general, USA`s presidents often present maniacal characteristics in their behavior. Think of Bill Clinton. Think. or take that Sarcoziy of France or Tony Blair of Britain. All maniac after maniac and, they rule this world

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May 26, 11, 21:19 #108

Antek_Stalich:

I would say Polish exploration of shale gas would make Poland independent of Russia

It is not that simple,who is gonna do it? who will be in charge?
Where the profit will go?
Independent from Russia? It could have been done years ago, without exploration of shale gas.
Regardless of Poland need for gas she signed a contract - and she have to buy gas from Russian for many years to come.

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May 26, 11, 21:22 #109

Polish Oil & Gas Company comes to my mind. The same company that has bought some shares in North Sea gas-fields and that produces 30% of the domestic gas demand out of domestic sources. They produce some oil, too, however it is just a pinch in the amount transported via the "Przyjaźń" pipeline.

I hope you are not supporting any conspiracy theory, Ironside? As PGNiG are one of my clients, I know what's happening there to decent level.

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May 26, 11, 21:25 #110

Crow:

just look how Obama reacts in case with Libya. He is maniac by all standards and now, maniac walk on the streets of Poland

In general, USA`s presidents often present maniacal characteristics in their behavior. Think of Bill Clinton. Think. or take that Sarcoziy of France or Tony Blair of Britain. All maniac after maniac and, they rule this world

How Obama reacts with Libya? He has been forced by someone elses (Britain etc) to send soldiers to Libya land to occupy there immediately, and Obama is saying only "patient, wait", etc.. So, he is not the one who is aggressive, but, someone elses.

Clinton, Sarcozy? I understand them, their mmm things while they are presidents. Blair too? Didn't know he did such thing. Am surprised you didn't count Bush and Bush company. Maybe, you are a fan of Bush & Bush co, who knows.

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May 26, 11, 23:26 #111

NomadatNet:

How Obama reacts with Libya? He has been forced by someone elses (Britain etc) to send soldiers to Libya land to occupy there immediately, and Obama is saying only "patient, wait", etc.. So, he is not the one who is aggressive, but, someone elses.

This situation is like you ask for original or blue print. It's actually the same.

O coming to Poland is probably also to make sure to get in the future full attention for his 'humanitarian actions'. ;)

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May 26, 11, 23:32 #112

sascha:

O coming to Poland is probably also to make sure to get in the future full attention for his 'humanitarian actions'. ;)

What do you imply by that? Sure, Obama isn't perfect humanitarian, but, he is a step ahead of Bush & Bush co who too considered their action against Saddam was a humanitarian while we know it was for the their oil co..

What humanitarian action you expect from Obama? He is civil enough. You expect him to give money to you for free unconditionally, as you see him as a boss? What humanitarian action you are talking about really?

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Edited by: Seanus May 26, 11, 23:36 #113
Nomad, he is a dangerous man who seeks to present the downright immoral as somehow plausibly justifiable. He doesn't want peace in the world. He had better put a viable 2-state solution together.

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May 26, 11, 23:39 #114

NomadatNet:

What humanitarian action you expect from Obama? He is civil enough. You expect him to give money to you for free unconditionally, as you see him as a boss? What humanitarian action you are talking about really?

He and his admin are giving the cover of humanitarian actions as warfare. Are you stupid? How you call that civilized?

NomadatNet:

Sure, Obama isn't perfect humanitarian, but, he is a step ahead of Bush & Bush co who too considered their action against Saddam was a humanitarian while we know it was for the their oil co..

Are you living in lala-land? The 40 year concession of oil from Lybia expired and Gaddafi did not want to give the us huge amounts of oil rather to the brics countries. You think o went to Lybia because of rebellion? Man, your brain believes in Santa Claus.

Your comments are blablabla...

O in PL checking on the status of the helping troops maybe?

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Edited by: NomadatNet May 26, 11, 23:42 #115

Seanus:

Nomad, he is a dangerous man who seeks to present the downright immoral as somehow plausible. He doesn't want peace in the world. He had better put a viable 2-state solution together.

evidences for that, for him being a dangerous? any of his words that shows that? there are people who don't want peace, there are people who are against them even though they may not know how to do peace.. at most, Obama can be in second category..

ps: by the way, among people who don't want peace are not only killers, murderers, etc, but also victims, kids hurt, etc as well.

sascha:

Are you living in lala-land? The 40 year concession of oil from Lybia expired and Gaddafi did not want to give the us huge amounts of oil rather to the brics countries. You think o went to Lybia because of rebellion? Man, your brain believes in Santa Claus.

Your comments are blablabla...

O in PL checking on the status of the helping troops maybe?

I say it again.. it is not Obama who is aggressive to Libya, but, Brits (France as well, but, theirs is against Brits' plan, I see things in Libya like that.) Obama and his sponsors are not in oil and military industries. So, you are talking not logical things.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	May 26, 11, 23:45 #116
Yes, plenty. Taunting Iran with his condescending carrot/stick approach. How disrespectful! That was inflammatory! Attacking Libya only because Gaddafi had apparently outlived his usefulness. Sending more troops off to their deaths in Afghanistan, and for what?? The man has indirectly murdered US citizens. It's a phony war and he is playing with lives.

saschaThreads: 13 Posts: 3,857 Joined: Jun 10, 10 ♂	May 26, 11, 23:50 #117
NomadatNet: not Obama who is aggressive Sorry, he got Nobel price for peace. LOL NomadatNet: Obama and his sponsors are not in oil and military industries. Of course they are. You just don't get it. NomadatNet: Libya, but, Brits (France as well, but, theirs is against Brits' plan, I see things in Libya like that.) Through your fog you don't see anything, net.

PlasticPoleThreads: 10 Posts: 5,432 Joined: May 28, 09 ♀	May 26, 11, 23:52 #118
Seanus: Attacking Libya only because Gaddafi had apparently outlived his usefulness. Seanus, that's just wrong. You know very well that's not why.

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Edited by: NomadatNet May 26, 11, 23:53 #119

Seanus:

Yes, plenty. Taunting Iran with his condescending carrot/stick approach. How disrespectful! That was inflammatory! Attacking Libya only because Gaddafi had apparently outlived his usefulness. Sending more troops off to their deaths in Afghanistan, and for what?? The man has indirectly murdered US citizens. It's a phony war and he is playing with lives.

Iran is another issue, word-war issue only.. Ahmedinejad hasn't been speaking soft words either for a long time (lately, he's not speaking such things anymore.) I explained Gaddafi and Libya things above. It is not about Obama's project, but, someones else's - read my post above.. Afganistan. Usame Laden was there, wasn't he.. Wasn't all reason of USA soldiers there in Afganistan for Usame? So, he is gone. Now, USA soldiers will be withdrawn slowly from there too, only a matter of time.. But, what about Brit soldiers, etc too? They are not talked about, they are not critisized for their existence there.. Will British forces keep staying there? Obama said he will withdraw all USA soldiers sooner or later.. Britain won't say anything?

NomadatNet:

Obama and his sponsors are not in oil and military industries.

sascha:

Of course they are. You just don't get it.

So, do you mean Bush & Bush co and Britain lords who are oil and military business people are sponsoring Obama? I thought he was competing against them in last election in 2008.

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May 26, 11, 23:59 #120

Go on, PP, trot out those bogus official lines you love so much.

Nomad, you are a sucker for mainstream press. I simply cannot discuss things with people who suck it up and can't think outside the box. Obama is in on all events in Libya. Obama said Moshtarak and then out. He LIED, Nomad. They will invent excuse after excuse in which to stay. It was on the table from the PNAC days but you can't see that. Britain DID withdraw many from Helmand whilst Obama threw in 30,000 more troops. Get real, Nomad.

The killer is in Poland. I hope he feels the force of old Polish tomatoes and eggs.

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