€80 billion for Poland new EU budget

The European Commission has offered Poland 80 billion in the draft EU budget for 2014-2020 under the cohesion policy. Poland is expected to remain the biggest beneficiary of the EU budget.

The European Commission has offered Poland 80 billion in the draft EU budget for 2014-2020 under the cohesion policy.

Ugh, far too much.

How much does Poland pay back in one way or another 1/3, 1/2?

one has to wonder......why does Poland need all that money? What if they didn't receive it....what would happen? Where are the most funds required? Pensions? Infrastructure? Education? Where is the shortage in Poland that necessitates 80 billion?

This money simply helps Poland to build stuff, really. If the money wasn't there, it's unlikely that many things would get built - especially giant works like water.

Barely anything - around 2 billion a year, or around 12 billion over this timescale. Bear in mind that this is just cohesion funds - in other words, stuff designed to bring Poland in line with the West. It doesn't include all the other parts of EU funding.

i guess it "pays" to have a big brother sometimes.

Wow good.

so what you're saying is that Poland's existence as a country is completely dependent on EU funds? without their "allowance" they'd be.....well.....

Worth pointing out though, that the cohesion funds normally require Poland to put up 2/3rds of the money themselves

The European Commission has offered Poland 80 billion

2/3rds meaning it actually only gets 1/3rd?? or 2/3rd at first and once the projects are completed the EU pays them back?

In practice It will be no more than 70, we will take no more than 60 out of it paying no less than 35 into it directly, add abandoned tariffs, additional burocracy, CO2 penalties and other bullsites they are going to invent soon and we will hardly make a penny out of it. It should be free trade area, nothing more.

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Poland could receive €80 billion in cohesion policy payments if new budgetary proposals are approved by the European Commission. In addition, the country's farmers may see direct subsidies increase to €30 per hectare of land.

It should be free trade area, nothing more.

Could Poland modernize and develop all on it's own? Maybe, maybe not....the majority of the Poles don't think so.

Poland's contribution is around 2 billion a year, no more.

Now... don't get me wrong... I am very grateful for the 20 eurocents a day that European Union
floods me with every day of my life.

THE ESSENTIALS 2007–13

Over €25 billion for tr • ansport infrastructure
• €17.8 billion to protect the environment
• €14 billion for innovation
• €3.6 billion in support of entrepreneurship

A SNAPSHOT OF ACHIEVEMENTS

Nearly 85 000 projects implemented in the years
2004–07
• 3 700 km of roads and over 200 km of motorways built
or modernised by the end of 2007
• Over 15 000 projects offering support to enterprises
implemented in the period 2004–07
• Nearly 350 000 young people received job-related
support

BUILDING BRIDGES BETWEEN NEIGHBOURS

In Europe today, economic success is often dependent on
a region’s capacity to develop networks with other regions.
Cooperation and sharing experience between regions can be
a key trigger in stimulating a dynamic, forward-looking regional
development process.
The EU has an important role to play in
brokering and supporting such partnerships, both between regions
within the Union, and with neighbouring regions outside.
Thousands of projects developed over many years under the
INTERREG initiative have demonstrated the benefits for regions
of working in partnership, sharing ideas and charting new and
innovative ways of harnessing European investment.

The European Territorial Cooperation Objective is financed
through the ERDF for the period 2007–13 and supports crossborder,
transnational and interregional cooperation programmes
to encourage regions and cities across the EU and further afield
to work together and learn from each other.

Poland is involved in 13 cooperation programmes, with a total
allocation of €731 million:

seven cross-border cooperation p • rogrammes, with
Lithuania, Slovakia, the Czech Republic, Saxony (Germany),
Mecklenburg (Germany), Brandenburg (Germany), and the
South Baltic programme (with Sweden, Denmark, Germany
and Lithuania);

• two transnational cooperation programmes: Central Europe
and Baltic Sea Region;

• four interregional cooperation programmes4: INTERREG IV
C, INTERACT II, ESPON II and URBACT II.

But you can't dispute the raw numbers!

I can't counter your "facts" through a polish only opinion site but don't you think that it might be biased?

You don't have to be grateful Torq

you don't have to be an arsehole about this help either....it's more than just the money!

13.4%

And 60% of 80 billion Euro is a hell of a lot of money.

It's peanuts money, mate, and let me assure you that my humble self, my family
and my country would do quite well without them.

THE ESSENTIALS 2007–13

Over €25 billion for tr • ansport infrastructure
• €17.8 billion to protect the environment
• €14 billion for innovation
• €3.6 billion in support of entrepreneurship

A SNAPSHOT OF ACHIEVEMENTS

Nearly 85 000 projects implemented in the years
2004–07
• 3 700 km of roads and over 200 km of motorways built
or modernised by the end of 2007
• Over 15 000 projects offering support to enterprises
implemented in the period 2004–07
• Nearly 350 000 young people received job-related
support

Look BB, even if Poland would get all the 80 billion euro (100% utilization of EU funds!), then
substracting the Polish contribution, it would still amount to about 54 eurocents a day
per capita. It's peanuts money, mate, and let me assure you that my humble self, my family
and my country would do quite well without them.

So you think that Poland would modernize and develop the same without these funds?

In all honesty - what the money is doing is allowing Poland to build things quicker

Poland doesn't desperately need the money

without it - it would be a worse place. Not significantly worse, but still worse.

Almost the same, and considering the limitations that EU puts on our economy - probably better,
but that's not the point. Let me explain (soon).

Let me explain (soon).

Poland would be better off without the billions of the EU?

would be a worse place. Not significantly worse, but still worse.

In all honesty - what the money is doing is allowing Poland to build things quicker - and in some cases, getting things built at all. Poland doesn't desperately need the money, but without it - it would be a worse place. Not significantly worse, but still worse.

Poland would, most probably, be economically better off

I should perhaps put it more clearly. Poland would, most probably, be economically better off
outside the EU, but economy is not everything.

. Poland would, most probably, be economically better off
outside the EU,

accept the submissive position.