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Candidates for presidency in Poland: Situation in Belarus is a real challenge


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 Jun 28, 10, 20:35    #1
Yesterday evening TV debate took place in Poland. Presidential candidates Jaroslaw Kaczynski and Bronislaw Komorowski met face-to-face for the first time in this election campaign. They are the candidates who reached the second round. Representatives of the election headquarters of the both candidates have agreed upon the form of the debates, in accordance with which candidates were asked by journalists. Questions touched upon the three spheres: social, economic and foreign policy issues.

One of the issues to which Kaczynski and Komorowski were to answer within three minutes concerned the policy towards Belarus. Journalists reminded that according to the official data, 400,000 Poles live in Belarus, and Lukashenka’s regime persecutes the Poles. Which policy towards the Belarusian regime would be chosen in this situation by the new president: the policy of negotiations, a visit at the governmental level, or the policy of isolation and sanctions?

The former Prime Minister of Poland stated: “I know that to talk with the regimes like Lukashenka’s regime, is worthwhile only when argument of pressure and all kinds of incentives are also present. Law and Order Party had been carrying out the policy exactly like that. And unofficially, totally unofficially, we carried out negotiations with some representatives of this regime”.

Kaczynski underlined that the Polish authorities must defend Poles abroad, and at the moment exactly the Poles in Belarus need as wide defense as possible, and any president must do that.

And finally Jaroslaw Kaczynski stated: “This is the issue which is also to be discussed with Moscow, and when President Medvedev would visit us, and I would be a president, I will raise this question certainly. Though Belarus is a separate state, this question could be discussed”.

Bronislaw Komorowski immediately responded to the concluding words of his opponent. “It is an unprecedented idea to talk with Moscow about Belarus. I totally disagree with that. It contradicts Polish interests completely, and in general it is not accepted in the international policy. It is the same thing as if Belarusians would plan to talk about Poland’s problems with Moscow or Berlin,” Komorowski stated.

He stressed that Belarus’ problem is a real challenge which the West cannot meet too. “We must primarily influence on the policy of Europe, to speak in a louder voice in the negotiations with Lukashenka,” believes the candidate for presidency of the currently leading party of Poland.

http://www.charter97.org/en/news/2010/6/28/30190/

Who had the best arguments?

And what do you think should be done about the oppressed Poles in Belarus?

NathanThreads: 33
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 Jun 29, 10, 00:35    #2
I agree with Komorowski here, but his notion
David_18:
and in general it is not accepted in the international policy

is just a question on international relations exam, not in real world.
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 Jun 29, 10, 00:41    #3
David_18:
Who had the best arguments?


Komorowski. Talking about Belarus behind Lukashenko's back is hardly going to make him like Poles!

David_18:
And finally Jaroslaw Kaczynski stated: “This is the issue which is also to be discussed with Moscow, and when President Medvedev would visit us, and I would be a president, I will raise this question certainly. Though Belarus is a separate state, this question could be discussed”.


So - Kaczynski intends to interfere in Governmental affairs. What part of "The Presidential role is ceremonial" does he really not understand?

David_18:
Kaczynski underlined that the Polish authorities must defend Poles abroad, and at the moment exactly the Poles in Belarus need as wide defense as possible, and any president must do that.


If he was interested in defending them, why didn't he grant them passports?

David_18:
And what do you think should be done about the oppressed Poles in Belarus?


Either give them passports or shut up, frankly talking.
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 Jun 29, 10, 01:04    #4
JK sounded good, just that should try to speak with Mr Luka in Belarussia first, then with Moscow :)
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 Jun 29, 10, 02:46    #5
Frankly, after that debate, I think JK is an idiot!
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 Jun 29, 10, 05:02    #6
you mean we are all concerned about Polish people in Bielarus but they are not welcomed in Poland? Do I get it right?
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 Jun 29, 10, 11:43    #7
Zed:
I think JK is an idiot!


I think he's shown his true colours - that he wants to interfere in governmental politics. The fact that he's not even elected yet, but he's still managed to anger the Belarussians tells you all you need to know.

f stop:
you mean we are all concerned about Polish people in Bielarus but they are not welcomed in Poland? Do I get it right?


Basically, yes. Poland has only given them the "Karta Polaka" and not citizenship - meaning that they are stuck in Belarus. And funnily enough, the Karta Polaka was a PiS law!

Sure, the situation isn't great in Belarus - but if they supported the government, life would be ok for them. Just like the ordinary population!



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