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 Mar 11, 10, 07:52    #61
Filios1:
If so, you are nothing but a gutless coward, who disrespects his Polish heritage by praising muja's and putting down your home country. To hell with you and your filthy muja friends.

What you mean muja muja muja...??? ... YOU ARE POLISH???... I wonder ... if yes ... then try and think beyond the word MUJA MUJA...

I know a Muja is a fighter ... terrorist or whatever (CREATED BY USA during the Afghan war ... watch RAMBO which is in all praises) ... but there are people from those countries who are better!... Also, apart from muslims .. there are other minorities and ethnic groups in such places who are very much peaceful...

In this world moving towards globalisation ... nationalism cannot stay any long with the same magnitude as it once was. We must integrate and unite ... this is the need of the world now, and this need will intensify so much as to burn the past in which nationalism comes. We know that many other ISMS have already been burned or are in the process of being totally turned into ash.

You may resist this idea with your full might ... BUT NO MATTER HOW MUCH A PERSON TRIES TO RESIST THE SUN COMING OUT AFTER NIGHT - HE/SHE ALWAYS FAILS.

Thanks.

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 Mar 11, 10, 08:09    #62
Lodz_The_Boat:
You may resist this idea with your full might ... BUT NO MATTER HOW MUCH A PERSON TRIES TO RESIST THE SUN COMING OUT AFTER NIGHT - HE/SHE ALWAYS FAILS.

you telling that to your daughter?

Lodz_The_Boat:
Thanks

thanks but no thanks

Lodz_The_Boat:
In this world moving towards globalisation

problem is that some under term globalization suggest (more or less openly) assimilation.

If Slavs globalize, it would be much more profitable to them to globalize inside of Slavic world, to unite in powerfull confederation or alliance in order to secure their wast resources. It is because Slavs are unique civilization and have right to survive as unique
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 Mar 11, 10, 08:17    #63
Crow:
you telling that to your daughter?

I don have a daughter... no kids... didnt marry yet...

Anyways ..I get your point. If my daughter would choose a gentleman from any particular country, who is a good and honest person ... educated ... and they are serious for marriage...I would simply be happy for her and try to give all my support so that she can make a good start.

This includes many other aspects... into detail i dont want to go.

Crow:
thanks but no thanks

Its a courtesy crow...after ending a post...

Crow:
globalization suggest (more or less openly) assimilation.

Yea why not?... The world is so beautiful ... people are so beautiful and diverse!!!

You personally dont want to assimilate, and that is another thing. But why not the men and women of Savija??? Poles or Serbs or WE all can have our own individial wishes and dreams. No one can try and be the spokesman/woman for all! ... You just cannot say "NO WE DONT OR WE WONT!" ... its not and was never like that.

There are serbs with men and women of many ethnicities... now you can bluntly deny this ... but that doesnt change the truth does it?

Crow:
If Slavs globalize, it would be much more profitable to them to globalize inside of Slavic world

Slavic region do not constitute to whole world ... this is the major setback in your interpretation of Slavic emancipation. I also would love this/our region to prosper and become a great cultural and economic hub!... But for this the assimilation, peace and tolerance are the only key available...
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 Mar 11, 10, 08:56    #64
Listen to the Serb Lodz.At least he knows what he is talking about.
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Edited by: jeden  Mar 11, 10, 10:21    #65
zollla is probably from muslim country, he is angry becouse, polish people don`t like him... Everybody call him Kebab...


all this polish living out (have polish living in Muslim country's Tunisia,emirates,Qatar,Saudi...)

what are you talking about???

think u not understand polish or u not look everyday fakty to know,Poland is an catastrophe

I live in Poland and I don`t agree... Give me example of European country with higher economic growth?
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 Mar 11, 10, 10:49    #66
banderias:
50 years later france and germany will be an islamic country.

insha-allah

hey hey! dont get angry to me! that info was given by the capital city of catolism. :)))

Nobody care what you say dirty arab
zollla:
i live it there and i know,to make from poland paradise u can but not for me,adios amigos

same to you dirty turk ;)
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Edited by: Lodz_The_Boat  Mar 11, 10, 11:44    #67
Exiled:
Listen to the Serb Lodz.

I know Crow ... his WISH is good ... about SLAVIJA in a respectable and credible position ... but intention and ways are not in accord with every slav ...

He is not only talking about serbia ... but about all slavs... and thus there needs to be voices heard from all over the table ... or family as he would suggest.

Infact we have our people married with Germans or British or Americans aswell... so what we do with them?...

We have them married with Turks, Indians, Persians aswell....

There are good stories and bad stories in all those relationships equally ... so???

Its not sensible to just sit and talk about your own feelings and moreover justify that in a way that its the general value of the masses ... IT IS NOT SO - not even in Serbia alone I am sure.
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Edited by: Exiled  Mar 11, 10, 12:06    #68
You tend to absolute degradation and humiliation by mixing with all these third worldlers.You head for big damage as the garbage bin of the West.The difference is that here we don't choose them,they shove them in our throats but if you choose them you are in even worse position because you don't have reflexes.
faizeekhan  Mar 11, 10, 13:28    #69
I thought I could get some useful information from these forums but what I was not aware of is that: there are ignorant and unrefined people in this society (I am referring to those who spread hatred) who have nothing better but to discuss topics like for instance this one!

Chances of Islam taking over !

I am a Muslim and I never thought of disrespecting any religion, and furthermore I never thought that I as Muslim will take over someone's space. I believe we belong to this global earth but not just one country. We weren't given a choice to be born in some specific place, area, city or country.

Anyone of you could have been born in Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, india and so on ????
No country has the monopoly of criminals, I agree that every terrorist is calling himself a Muslim but it doesn't mean that the whole muslim world is bad or Islam is bad.

No religion tells us to lie, do bad things, or blow places up, if we are good humans that means we fit into every religion, Islam, Christianity, Hindus, Jews etc.

I lived in USA since I was 2 and I lived in U.K when I was 16 and at present I am in Poland but believe me or not I have never experienced such hospitality what one can experience in Muslim world. I have huge number of white friends who visited Pakistan, Iran etc with me and they believe the same now.

I am not asking anyone to visit those countries but trust me, to be very truthful if anyone will ever visit Pakistan or Iran or any of those countries, you would certainly realise how would they treat you and you will feel like you have all the respect in the world.

Then why this hatred, IGNORE the bad people in Muslims and get along with the good people no matter what religion they are from. treat them as humans.

Accept my apologies for posting such a long thread but I couldn't resist. I am in Poland and I am learning Polish and I love everyone and I am married to a Polish girl who visited my home country Kashmir a beautiful place, she met all of my family and everything is just fine.

For people who would think now that this marriage is for nationality than Please note that I hold American nationality and Pakistani and I am 100% loyal to Pakistan as well as USA and wherever I stay, and I am proud to be a Muslim and I have respect for every decent human being from all over the world regardless of their race and religion.

ISLAM IS NOT GOING TO TAKE OVER ANY COUNTRY EVER, BUT PERHAPS ISLAMIC PEOPLE TRY TO SPREAD ISLAM NOT TO BE IN POWER BUT TO TELL PEOPLE THAT WE ARE NOT BAD PEOPLE AND OUR RELIGION IS NOT BAD.

Accept my sincerest apologies if someone doesn't agree with me but I request you guys not to be disrespectful towards anyone.
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 Mar 11, 10, 14:08    #70
Islam did talk over Poland on several occasions. I've seen some interviews with Islamic people that discussed Poland.
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 Mar 11, 10, 15:17    #71
Czarnkow1940:
Nobody care what you say dirty arab

haha!..

you dont have any idea what you said...

i am % 75 turk % 25 caucasian.

but it doesnt have any walue that the blood i am carrying.

i am %100 muslim, and i am grandson of prophet Adam.
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 Mar 11, 10, 15:40    #72
Czarnkow1940:
same to you dirty turk ;)

You can not call a nation dirty.

Dirty is your ill brain.
faizeekhan  Mar 11, 10, 15:52    #73
exactly the people who refer to the whole nation as dirty or terrorists or anything is actually confusing themselves .....

Dirty are their ill brains, well said
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 Mar 11, 10, 15:58    #74
faizeekhan:
Accept my sincerest apologies if someone doesn't agree with me but I request you guys not to be disrespectful towards anyone.

Faizeekhan, you wrote very well, and with good intentions. If I met you, I would also treat you with respect, as I do with everyone I meet. This is a very good approach in life, and all people of all colours and faiths should do this. And many do!

But the reason people are so aggressive and seem "racist", or "hateful", is that instead of one, respectful and normal person coming into their lives, like you did with your polish wife and her family and friends, we have now come to a point in our history, when there are hundreds of thousands, yes, millions, of muslims in Europe. This has made integration, politeness and respect impossible. One one hand you have the europeans, wary of their culture, religion and way of life, on the other hand you have the muslims/immigrants from outside of Europe who are now so many, they don't see the need to integrate anymore. They have their own houses of worship, their own stores, their own enclaves where large families live together. After a while, you get a muslim area and a european area.

Who is to blame? Our politicians first and foremost. Their total lack of clear thinking, or their hunger for greed and instant success have blinded their moral and human compass. I don't blame an african for trying to come to Europe and get a better life. If I knew there was a country out there, where I could improve my quality of life and help my family to a better future, sure I would consider it, and even go there.

But when Europe looks like a war-zone, it's gone too far. Paris riots, Berlin riots, Rotterdam Riots, London Riots, bombings, killings, religious intolerance, kidnappings, sharia law and gun battles in the street have killed the dream of an multicultural, ethnically diverse society. Look at USA, look at Rwanda, look at China, people of distinctive different ethnicity, colour or religion just don't blend. In the end violence and murder will be the result.

So, enjoy the piece of cultural diversity you are experiencing, because if Poland one day will have the same influx of immigrants as Germany or France have, then it will be much harder to live and enjoy yourself there. You can't put the red fox and the silver fox on the same piece of land, even though they are both foxes, one will chase the other off the land eventually. That is animal instinct as well as human nature. Just look up any history book and this will be told.

Just imagine if ten million christian europeans just suddenly came to Pakistan. They started building churches, opening christian stores with relics and special food. They started their own schools and kept their languages and cultures intact. Their women continued wearing T-shirts and jeans and wearing make-up. Even mini-skirts! Their kids would run around in gangs and mug and harrass ordianary pakistanis. There would be christian police making sure everyone followed christian rules and didn't become to "pakistani". There would be stores selling hamburgers made out of pigmeat and people keeping dogs everywhere, in their cars and walking them into shops. Every sunday all the shops would be closed, taxi-drivers and bus drivers would be in church. Christmas trees would come up every winter holiday, and all the christian cars would have crosses hanging from their rear view mirrors. Christians would demand their own council in the pakistani congress and equal opportunities to attend schools and get jobs. Even so that they would get preferential treatment before pakistanis! Soon, whole areas of cities would be filled with european christians, all the muslim pakistanis would move out and to other areas. Racism would be everwhere, but this time coming from the pakistanis to the christians. There would be muslims marching in the street with signs of "pakistan for pakistanis", and "christians out!". Once in a while, the christians would riot in the street, setting cars on fire, burning shops and vandalizing everything. Riot police would force the christians back and many would be arrested. Pakistani TV (politically correct), would tell of "Upset youths", rioting, while pakistanis would say; "That's not pakistanis, that's christian europeans!".

This is how we have it in Europe today! Could you imagine it like that in your country??

Dariusz

Dariusz
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 Mar 11, 10, 16:04    #75
DariuszTelka:
But when Europe looks like a war-zone, it's gone too far. Paris riots, Berlin riots, Rotterdam Riots, London Riots, bombings, killings, religious intolerance, kidnappings, sharia law and gun battles in the street have killed the dream of an multicultural, ethnically diverse society. Look at USA, look at Rwanda, look at China, people of distinctive different ethnicity, colour or religion just don't blend. In the end violence and murder will be the result.

This just borders on the absurd. Dariusz, you simply have no idea what you're talking about in the least.
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Edited by: DariuszTelka  Mar 11, 10, 16:08    #76
Matowy:
This just borders on the absurd. Dariusz, you simply have no idea what you're talking about in the least.

Why don't you just google some of the things I mentioned before you answer here, Matowy.



Dariusz
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 Mar 11, 10, 19:32    #77
Crow:
yes, please

Me too! With some milk! Do you have any Natrena?
Crow:
Serb Ratko

Nice picture

Islam talking over Poland? :o
If you mean taking over then, I really doubt that :)
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 Mar 11, 10, 19:46    #78
Mr Grunwald:
Nice picture

This is what EU and NATO prepares for Polish politicians if they tries to defend Polish interests and tries to resist to islamization...

Serbian resistance
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 Mar 11, 10, 20:16    #79
They should exchange the pictures with Madeleine Albright, Javier Solana and Wesley Clarke.

Dariusz
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 Mar 11, 10, 21:00    #80
Mr Grunwald:
Nice picture

He is a butcher, you idiot.
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Edited by: Crow  Mar 11, 10, 21:32    #81
rock:
He is a butcher, you idiot.

he isn`t butcher. He is, for political reasons, accused to be butcher, by EU, NATO and Islamic league. They have their reasons

In reality, Mladic defended Serbian people from combined EU, NATO, Islamic league assault. He was Serbian respond on mujaheedine invasion, so that islamists learn that Slavija isn`t easy pray. Ratko Mladic managed to protect (organized their evacuation) Muslim woman and children, when forces of Bosnian Serbs liberated Srebrenica from muja occupation. But, nor Mladic, nor anybody on this Earth was able to protect all Muslim fighters that were in the region. Some Muslim fighters died while tried to brake the lines of Bosnian Serbs and escape in safety of NATO bases. They were hunted as animals. Some other, who were captured survived and some were executed in chaos that occurred. Serbs were not responsible for chaos. NATO, EU and Islamic league created chaos. They are responsible. Serbs were just a sword. Sword of Slavija.

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 Mar 11, 10, 21:38    #82
You have to try and see Crow's point, rock. Prominent proponents of Islam in Bosnia curried favour with high-ranking Brits. Just look at Egit Ganip (?) who was released as Margaret Thatcher was a fan of his. Thatcher was the British Albright.

Serbia couldn't just be rolled over. Look at the Milosevic trial and show me what he was proved guilty of. Show me the genocide files and verdicts. They were defending their territory.

Rock, you know that I try to be fair but you can understand the fears of some, esp Slavs. Croatia had an uneasy alliance with Mujas. You have to take a stand and defend your own.
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Edited by: Crow  Mar 11, 10, 21:53    #83
Seanus:
Croatia had an uneasy alliance with Mujas. You have to take a stand and defend your own.

These days, Catholic children of Bosnia are forced to be educated by Islamic religion teachers, in the spirit of sharia law. So, in order to save itself from Islam, Bosnian Catholics sending children in schools of Serb Republic within Bosnia. There, within brotherly Christian Orthodox Serbian environment, they got opportunity to get education as Catholics, as humans after all. Serbian Orthodox Church even coordinated with Vatican and offered its network of churches as shelter for Catholics to whom is forbidden to pray to Christ in churches within Bosnian Muslim federation.

`Catholic` Croatia force Bosnian Catholics to live in Bosnian Muslim federation within Bosnia-Herzegovina, to live as neighbors with worse Arab mujas populated in Bosnia by NATO.

It is obvious that all what is Serbian in the region serve to Christ and Slavija, while all what is Croatian serve to Germany (plus Britain and France) and unfortunately even to Turkey and to other Arabs.
faizeekhan  Mar 11, 10, 22:19    #84
Well, to be very honest, you have made me speechless and I have to agree with everything you have said and actually it is just phenomenal how one can change the whole concept of thinking and that is what you did right here.

I am glad that there are people like you who think logically and with valid and strong grounds of argument and believe me I totally and utterly agree with every single point you have pointed out, and you have actually made me think by making me stand in your shoes :) and everything seems true what you have said.

I also agree that if for instance someone from muslim world comes to the western world, they should and they must ensure that they integrate in this society, try and learn the language, because there is a will there is a way, and keep your faith and religion inside you instead of advertising it everywhere specially in Europe which doesn't belong to us and still we are welcomed here.

I believe if everyone will start talking rationally like you did then at least we can have a decent debate instead of talking impolitely and reacting unnecessary but again I would say we come across all kinds of people and there are good and bad.

Anyway once again thanks a lot for an excellent response and keep up the good work.

Regards,

Faizan
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Edited by: rock  Mar 11, 10, 22:20    #85
Crow:
Ratko Mladic managed to protect (organized their evacuation) Muslim woman and children,

You are a big liar Crow. Forget about Mujas, ask Bosnian muslims ( 2.000.000 remained, 200.000 killed) what they think about Serbs.

I ask when I visited Bosnia, you can not imagine to the hate you manage to raise. Do not forget they are not Mujas.


Seanus:
Serbia couldn't just be rolled over. Look at the Milosevic trial and show me what he was proved guilty of. Show me the genocide files and verdicts. They were defending their territory.

Rock, you know that I try to be fair but you can understand the fears of some, esp Slavs. Croatia had an uneasy alliance with Mujas. You have to take a stand and defend your own.

Wake up Seanus. Almost 15 years past over the Bosnian war and even every month new graves of hundreds of Bosnian muslims ( not Mujas) are found.

Do you think all the Bosnians killed theirselves. What kind of a proof do you want ?

Do not forget some of the relatives of these poor people is still living and telling about the facts. They are killed Seanus. They did not go to USA or Europe for work.
faizeekhan  Mar 11, 10, 22:22    #86
Well, to be very honest, you have made me speechless and I have to agree with everything you have said and actually it is just phenomenal how one can change the whole concept of thinking and that is what you did right here.

I am glad that there are people like you who think logically and with valid and strong grounds of argument and believe me I totally and utterly agree with every single point you have pointed out, and you have actually made me think by making me stand in your shoes :) and everything seems true what you have said.

I also agree that if for instance someone from muslim world comes to the western world, they should and they must ensure that they integrate in this society, try and learn the language, because there is a will there is a way, and keep your faith and religion inside you instead of advertising it everywhere specially in Europe which doesn't belong to us and still we are welcomed here.

I believe if everyone will start talking rationally like you did then at least we can have a decent debate instead of talking impolitely and reacting unnecessary but again I would say we come across all kinds of people and there are good and bad.

Anyway once again thanks a lot for an excellent response and keep up the good work.

Regards,

Faizan
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 Mar 11, 10, 22:25    #87
Seanus:
Crow's point,

Most of the things he says are lies, propaganda, provocation, misjudgements and false dreams. It is really hard to find any truth which worths to think about in this mess.
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 Mar 11, 10, 22:27    #88
I know there is distortion. I can only summarise that 'there are bad bast*rds on both sides'.
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 Mar 11, 10, 22:32    #89
Just one proof Seanus

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3120772.stm
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 Mar 11, 10, 23:45    #90
Seanus:
You have to try and see Crow's point,

I get his point fine. He divides the human race into three categories.

1. Serbs, most perfect humans on the planet
2. Other Slavs (not quite up to being Serbian, but close.
3. Enemy rabble.

He's seriously unhinged and represents the mentality that tore Yugoslavia apart. Yeah, there was some outside meddling, what else is new? Half the dividing lines of European civilizaiton run right through the Serbo-Croatian (sensu largo) speaking area. Playing off one side against the other is classic divide and conquer tactics. Letting that work, is unutterably stupid. The outside meddling would never have succeeded or been so destructive without the kind of blind 'my side can do no wrong' mentality that he represents.

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