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PennBoyThreads: 157
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 Jun 21, 11, 17:54    #1
The history of German-Polish relations is full of suffering and mutual recriminations. Experts from both countries have been developing a history textbook meant to teach high-school students on both sides of the border a common narrative. But critics view the effort as destined to fail.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,759740,00.html




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 Jun 21, 11, 20:58    #2
...One point on which conflict has repeatedly flared up involves the insistence of the Polish representatives that the word "expulsion" not be used to describe the forced flight of millions of Germans as World War II ended and after national borders had been redrawn. Instead, they prefer to call it "resettlement."...

Fighting about words!
A sure sign that such a book is to early....it will need some more decades of reconciliation to write such a joint history, agreed on both sides.

Germans and France are able to now, with Germany and Poland it will take awhile longer.
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 Jun 21, 11, 21:03    #3
Too early, Germans still feel Poles are inferior and Poles still find Germans a bunch of Nazis, it'll take another 50 years for such a book to come out.
Bratwurst Boy:
Germans and France are able to now, with Germany and Poland it will take awhile longer.

Aye but Paris is still standing no? The rift is too deep, it'll take at least two centuries to heal completely.
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Edited by: RobertLee  Jun 21, 11, 21:55    #4
Bratwurst Boy:
Fighting about words!
A sure sign that such a book is to early....it will need some more decades of reconciliation to write such a joint history, agreed on both sides.

Good initiative. It should have been done long time ago.
Students graduating from German schools are illiterate when it comes to Eastern Europe

I once met a German teenager interested in WWII who mistook Warsaw Uprising with the defence of Polish post office in Gdañsk.
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 Jun 21, 11, 22:05    #5
Sokrates:
Aye but Paris is still standing no? The rift is too deep, it'll take at least two centuries to heal completely.

Sokrates:
Too early, Germans still feel Poles are inferior and Poles still find Germans a bunch of Nazis, it'll take another 50 years for such a book to come out.


you name it. with whom germany doesn't have a 'rift'?

nice try, but who knows which generation will actually have a benefit from this.
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 Jun 21, 11, 22:22    #6
RobertLee:
I once met a German teenager interested in WWII who mistook Warsaw Uprising with the defence of Polish post office in Gdañsk.

Gerhard Schröder came to Poland in the 90ties and he confused Warsaw uprising and the uprising in Warsaw ghetto in some official apologizing speech.
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 Jun 21, 11, 22:39    #7
Marynka11:
Gerhard Schröder came to Poland in the 90ties and he confused Warsaw uprising and the uprising in Warsaw ghetto in some official apologizing speech.

atleast he talked about it...
and he went to Warsaw! :)
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 Jun 22, 11, 00:04    #8
PennBoy:
The history of German-Polish relations is full of suffering and mutual recriminations. Experts from both countries have been developing a history textbook meant to teach high-school students on both sides of the border a common narrative. But critics view the effort as destined to fail.


Spiegel would say that.

If they can manage to do it, it'll be huge. It should be taught as common history, which it is - and the book should pull no punches.

The problem, of course, is that there is no common narrative. Germans would never admit that Frankfurt (Oder) was a nasty place to be a Pole in the early 1990's (many, many cases of Polish people being beaten up there) - nor would Poles admit that they actually enjoyed the "sealed" border with Germany.



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