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hague1cmaeronThreads: 20
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southern:
southern

Plus something you would not be aware of: population and economic growth 1998-2008

Poland:
Real GDP per Capita 51.8%

Czech Republic:

Real GDP per Capita 44.7%

So the gap is closing an whatever advantages the Czech Republic has will be lost in about 10 years time.
Chicago PollockThreads: 10
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They are just taking a small piece of what the Uk owes Poland after they sold them out in Yalta and forced the poles to live under the communists.

Poland is responsible for Poland. Before 50 year occupation by Soviet Union, Poland endured 200 year occupation by Germany, Austria, Russia. It has nothing to do with France and England. It has to do with Poland.

Poles need to start taking responsibility for Poland, if they don't history will repeat itself.
TorqThreads: 65
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Chicago Pollock:
Poland endured 200 year occupation by Germany, Austria, Russia.


How about 300? 400 maybe? Them round numbers look so good :)

Poland dissappeared from the map of Europe for 123 years after the partitions (1795-1918.)
If you love round numbers so much, you should have written 100.
SeanusThreads: 22
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Zeti, I didn't say that Polish cities didn't have any Germanic aspects, they do. I just said that Prague visibly shows it.
OlafThreads: 8
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southern:
Maybe Hitler was right calling Czechs the most dangerous Slavs
- he said that about Poles.
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hague1cmaeron:
Poland:
Real GDP per Capita 51.8%

Czech Republic:

Real GDP per Capita 44.7%

So the gap is closing an whatever advantages the Czech Republic has will be lost in about 10 years time.


Have you heard about the myth of Achilles and the tortoise?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeno's_paradoxes#Achilles_and_the_tortois e
hague1cmaeronThreads: 20
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Joined: Mar 30, 10 ♂ 		 Jul 20, 10, 11:38    #67
[quote=southern]Have you heard about the myth of Achilles and the tortoise?[/quo

I prefer facts, so you can can keep the myths to yourself.
king polkakamonThreads: 1
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hague1cmaeron:
Poland:
Real GDP per Capita 51.8%

Czech Republic:

Real GDP per Capita 44.7%

hague1cmaeron:
I prefer facts,


hague1cmaeron:
So the gap is closing


It is not closing.The rate depends on the initial GDP per capita difference.If it is increased even at a slower rate in CR the GDPs per capita will never be equalized.
hague1cmaeronThreads: 20
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king polkakamon:
It is not closing.The rate depends on the initial GDP per capita difference.If it is increased even at a slower rate in CR the GDPs per capita will never be equalized.


They are both relatively comparable countries, plus the more developed a country is the slower the rate of growth. Ever heard of the economics of scale, or do you subscribe to myths as well?

The gap is closing, simple economics really:)
king polkakamonThreads: 1
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hague1cmaeron:
plus the more developed a country is the slower the rate of growth


Exactly.Because the denominator is bigger.The absolute difference counts.So it is the limit.How is supposed Poland to catch ever on with CR?Now CR stands at 26000$/capita(2nd line euro category) and Poland at 18000$/capita which is Mexico category.
convexThreads: 47
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Have a look. The gap seems to be widening.
hague1cmaeronThreads: 20
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king polkakamon:
Exactly.Because the denominator is bigger.The absolute difference counts.So it is the limit.How is supposed Poland to catch ever on with CR?Now CR stands at 26000$/capita(2nd line euro category) and Poland at 18000$/capita which is Mexico category.


Sorry, but i can't make sense of your babble

Czech GDP: 25,232

Polish GDP: 19,059

Like i said it's a small difference easily bridgeable on the present trend.

But I suppose you prefer myths:)

convex:
Have a look. The gap seems to be widening.


You should have a look at the latest statistics, the post crisis ones, World Bank:)
Wroclaw BoyThreads: 56
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convex:
Have a look. The gap seems to be widening.

Interesting when you start to add countries and compare.
hague1cmaeronThreads: 20
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Link to the latest ones.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

Like i said the gap is closing quite quickly, faster than i initially taught:)

In any case smaller countries tend to have a greater rate.
convexThreads: 47
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Wroclaw Boy:
Interesting when you start to add countries and compare.

Gapminder is a good one to get lost in as well
jwojcieThreads: 3
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convex:
Have a look. The gap seems to be widening.


Your link gives nominal data. In PPP terms gap is narrowing.

As for general question, important factors to notice are:
1. better starting position for Czech economy in 1989 (much smaller debt burden)
2. because of 1. much smaller debt burden relative to GDP now -> more stable currency (that is why I prefer PPP numbers in comparisions)
3. better geographical position (closenest to very rich Bavaria and Austria)
4. historically very good engineering traditions from pre-communist period
5. last but not least Prague as a single most attractive tourist city in CEE. Prague is a gem and Czechs use this advantage well.

But overall, it is better to have richer neighbours, isn't it? ;-)
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