Designer drugs kill 18 in Poland

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Oct 21, 10, 13:25 #1

The English service of Polish Radio today carries the following item:

As many as 18 people have died and 304 poisoned after taking designer, or smart drugs in Poland, claims a report by the Health Ministry.

In 2010, 304 people were hospitalized after taking the drugs which have prompted the government to crack down on shops selling previously “legal highs”.

According to Deputy Health Minister Adam Fronczak, the number of designer drug victims has fallen dramatically after the government launched its campaign at the beginning of October, however.

“Most cases were reported in the two first weeks of October,” said Fronczak, after blanket coverage of the issue in Polish media.

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,188 Joined: Jun 7, 07 ♂	Oct 21, 10, 13:55 #2
Polonius3: Designer drugs kill 18 in Poland Not a very good design then is it...?

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Oct 21, 10, 14:23 #3
Polonius3: As many as 18 people have died and 304 poisoned after taking designer, or smart drugs in Poland, claims a report by the Health Ministry. “Most cases were reported in the two first weeks of October,” said Fronczak, after blanket coverage of the issue in Polish media. I'll call bullshiit on that one.

Filios1Threads: 15 Posts: 1,953 Joined: Nov 13, 07 ♂	Oct 21, 10, 19:05 #4
Harry; what sort of drugs do you enjoy?

residentThreads: 2 Posts: 33 Joined: Nov 4, 10 ♂	Nov 4, 10, 21:08 #5
Harry: I'll call bullshiit on that one. so you do not believe this figure? I know people who have been to hospital on this evil stuff. maybe try it, rather than talking about something you know NOTHING about

joepilsudskiThreads: 44 Posts: 2,529 Joined: Apr 27, 07 ♂	Nov 6, 10, 20:31 #6
What are these drugs, and what do they do?

A JThreads: 19 Posts: 4,639 Joined: May 21, 10 ♂	Nov 6, 10, 21:02 #7
Designer drugs exist in all kinds of varieties, so it's impossible to tell you about all the effects of each particular drug. They create these drugs in many varieties, so that it becomes almost impossible to label each particular drug as illegal. (America declared all designer drugs illegal though, no matter what type of synthesis.)

Polonius3Threads: 1,005 Posts: 4,834 Joined: Apr 11, 08 ♂	Nov 9, 10, 00:26 #8
Today President Komroowski signed the anti-designer drug bill into law. Hopefully this will end both the public health hazard as well as the hypocrisy of big red pills being sold as 'collector's items' and cynically labelled 'not for human consumption' (wink, wink). Ever heard of a teenager who keeps pills and powders in a glass cabinet for friends to admire as a hobby?

A JThreads: 19 Posts: 4,639 Joined: May 21, 10 ♂	Nov 9, 10, 00:27 #9
Polonius3: Ever heard of a teenager who keeps pills and powders in a glass cabinet for friends to admire as a hobby? Well, I used to collect marbles. xD

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Edited by: Bolle Nov 9, 10, 00:32 #10

Polonius3:

Today President Komroowski signed the anti-designer drug bill into law. Hopefully this will end both the public health hazard as well as the hypocrisy of big red pills being sold as 'collector's items' and cynically labelled 'not for human consumption' (wink, wink). Ever heard of a teenager who keeps pills and powders in a glass cabinet for friends to admire as a hobby?

This won't end ****. These designer drugs will continue to be available, just like marijuana is easily obtainable despite it being illegal. All of these dopalacze store owners are already working on how to continue dealing/selling them.

joepilsudski:

What are these drugs, and what do they do?

Search for "salvia" on youtube to see what these drugs do.

MaybeThreads: 7 Posts: 335 Joined: Dec 16, 08 ♂	Nov 9, 10, 00:35 #11
Yeah the story will be this young Marek sniffed two lines of Mephedrone, he smoked a joint did a line of Speed and then drank a three beers and a litre of Vodka. Conclusion designer drug killed Marek... rubbish...

convexThreads: 46 Posts: 7,185 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Nov 9, 10, 00:42 #12
Bolle: All of these dopalacze store owners are already working on how to continue dealing/selling them. They're just sending them in from Slovakia as the law was sloppy (as mentioned earlier in a previous thread).

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Edited by: Maybe Nov 9, 10, 00:48 #13

The region of central and Eastern Europe has among the highest levels of alcohol consumption in the world [7]
Popova S, Rehm J, Patra J, Zatonski W. Comparing alcohol consumption in central and eastern Europe to other European countries. Alcohol Alcohol. 2007;42(5):465–473

Why all this hoohaa when the real killer is in our midst, BOOZE, DRINK, ALCOHOL.

And who designed it?

MONKS...that is who.

Of all the weapons of mass destruction, alcohol has claimed more lives than every war ever... and it's development and spread went with the Monstries and Monks.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it!

SokratesThreads: 19 Posts: 4,464 Joined: Jan 19, 09 ♂ [Suspended]	Nov 9, 10, 10:21 #14
Maybe: The region of central and Eastern Europe has among the highest levels of alcohol consumption in the world [7] Check it again, Czechs and Poles cut on booze as compared to even the French.

StuThreads: 27 Posts: 1,109 Joined: Mar 31, 10 ♂	Nov 9, 10, 10:27 #15
Just a question: Polish people are famous for collecting mushrooms in the forests. In a lot of "western" countries, this knowledge is all but gone. Now there are a lot of natural mushrooms "helping people out". Is it too simple to say "who cares about shops if Mother Nature provides"?

zetigrekThreads: 59 Posts: 2,709 Joined: May 20, 10 ♂	Nov 9, 10, 10:32 #16
Stu: Now there are a lot of natural mushrooms "helping people out". Is it too simple to say "who cares about shops if Mother Nature provides"? ??? What do you mean?

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Nov 9, 10, 10:53 #17

This is why I shall continue to vote Ultra Conservative/Catholic even though I might not agree with their abortion laws and Age of consent for sexual relationships

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But it sure is the lesser evil of having a State which is Indifferent to Drug Taking/Drug addicts
[as in such countries.. drugs needles are given for free ! ]
drugs is the real devil to come around since Poland has gained 'freedoms' , this one freedom being an evil freedom for drug chieftains to be ruining society with this devilish things.
Go back to your backward rainforest/desert country and smoke/snort your drugs there - Narkomaństwo Won z Polski

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zetigrekThreads: 59 Posts: 2,709 Joined: May 20, 10 ♂	Nov 9, 10, 11:50 #18
POLENGGGs: drugs is the real devil to come around since Poland has gained 'freedoms' no, drugs were in Poland much earlier.

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Nov 9, 10, 12:29 #19

@Zetigrek: I was referring to plucking mushrooms that are freely available in the woods and which have a "very nice" influence on the person taking them.

@ POLENGG: what do you prefer? Huge bills (thus huge taxes) for people suffering from HIV or hepatitis or providing clean needles. It's not so simple, you know. And besides, I guess it is a well-known fact that if you liberalise drug use, crime rates go down substantially, but the State can even charge VAT on the sale of drugs. It is calculating that the Dutch government can earn over E 800m on VAT on the sale of soft drugs a year. Personally I am against hard drugs as well, although people who advocate the liberalization of hard drugs have a good point (i.e. reducing crime rates, amongst others) as well.

zetigrekThreads: 59 Posts: 2,709 Joined: May 20, 10 ♂	Nov 9, 10, 12:36 #20
Stu: @Zetigrek: I was referring to plucking mushrooms that are freely available in the woods and which have a "very nice" influence on the person taking them. there is only one kind of such mashroom and avilaible only in few places in Poland. Additionally it's very rare species.

TeffleThreads: 28 Posts: 2,105 Joined: Aug 26, 10 ♂	Edited by: Teffle Nov 9, 10, 12:39 #21
zetigrek: Additionally it's very rare species Really? I thought these were common more or less everywhere (allowing for climate obviously) We get them in our garden : )

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Edited by: zetigrek Nov 9, 10, 13:03 #22

Teffle:

Really? I thought these were common more or less everywhere (allowing for climate obviously)

there are many kinds of łysiczka machroom and not every is hallucinogenius. It's hard to recognize proper łysiczka (as far as I've read).
I also have some mushroom which resembles łysiczka but its not łysiczka lancetowata (Psilocybe semilanceata).
Have you ever tried to eatthe thing which was growing on your garden? how are the effects?? ;)

TeffleThreads: 28 Posts: 2,105 Joined: Aug 26, 10 ♂	Nov 9, 10, 13:06 #23
zetigrek: Have you ever tried to eatthe thing which was growing on your garden? Not these days! I would have done some years back though. They are definitely magic mushrooms - not hard to recognise in my opinion with the distinctive size/shape/nipple etc

zetigrekThreads: 59 Posts: 2,709 Joined: May 20, 10 ♂	Nov 9, 10, 13:08 #24
Teffle: I would have done some years back though. They are definitely magic mushrooms - not hard to recognise in my opinion with the distinctive size/shape/nipple etc ok, maybe maybe wikipedia lies! ;)

TeffleThreads: 28 Posts: 2,105 Joined: Aug 26, 10 ♂	Edited by: Teffle Nov 9, 10, 13:10 #25
Here you go: http://magic-mushrooms361.blogspot.com/2010/02/facts-about-magic-mushr ooms.html

convexThreads: 46 Posts: 7,185 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Nov 9, 10, 13:19 #26
It's these little guys you're after in Polska:

TeffleThreads: 28 Posts: 2,105 Joined: Aug 26, 10 ♂	Nov 9, 10, 13:25 #27
Yep. Great minds and all... : )

convexThreads: 46 Posts: 7,185 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Edited by: convex Nov 9, 10, 13:35 #28
convex: It's these little guys you're after in Polska: Or rather, not after. Completely legal in the Czech Republic though. In Poland you can go to jail for inadvertanly picking one. Yup, jail time for picking the wrong the mushroom, crazy world. Also avoid these:

zetigrekThreads: 59 Posts: 2,709 Joined: May 20, 10 ♂	Nov 9, 10, 17:13 #29
convex: Also avoid these: are they lethal? I've seen plenty of them...

HavokThreads: 14 Posts: 1,508 Joined: Mar 12, 10 MEMBER ♂	Edited by: Havok Nov 9, 10, 19:59 #30
Polonius3: As many as 18 people have died and 304 poisoned after taking designer, or smart drugs in Poland, claims a report by the Health Ministry. is an important element in the process of natural selection. Stupid people take drugs and sometimes die. i wouldn't worry about that too much...

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