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Financial compensations for the families of the tragedy in Smolensk?


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 Nov 5, 10, 15:14    #1
The families of the Smolensk victims will be financialy compensated for their losses... for lowering their standard of living... fullfilment for pain, suffering, and distress... the amount may be as high as 100 mln zlotych... it's not known which one of government agencies will pay...

so can a "regular" person apply for such compensation after a loss of their loved one?
it's so much money from the taxpayers pockets...

read here in Polish

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 Nov 5, 10, 15:51    #2
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It's outrageous. President daugher received about 3 mln zl. What for? Is her lost bigger then mine, when my mather dyid?
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 Nov 5, 10, 15:53    #3
Dorota7511:
President daugher received about 3 mln zl.


was that tax free
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 Nov 5, 10, 16:14    #4
Scandalous!!

Fcuking crooks!!!
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 Nov 5, 10, 18:11    #5
This is purely absurd. The French got rid of priveleges for the higher-end people in the French Revolution. Why should they benefit and not the average person for bereavement, mourning.
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Edited by: SeanBM  Nov 5, 10, 19:06    #6
Wroclaw:
was that tax free

Thinking of knocking off your mum? :)
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 Nov 5, 10, 20:53    #7
Dorota7511:
President daugher received about 3 mln zl. What for?


For the fact that her parents were insured.
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Edited by: Bratwurst Boy  Nov 5, 10, 20:55    #8
pgtx:
so can a "regular" person apply for such compensation after a loss of their loved one?
it's so much money from the taxpayers pockets...


I think it has more to do with "killed during duty" or something like that. What differs the ordinary victim of an car- or airplane crash is that these people had been killed as they served the country.

There are similiar laws for such victims in all countries I think...
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 Nov 5, 10, 21:41    #9
Seanus:
This is purely absurd. The French got rid of priveleges for the higher-end people in the French Revolution. Why should they benefit and not the average person for bereavement, mourning.


They died while on a official state visit to Katyn, lets look at the numbers 100 Mln Pln ( 25Mln Euro) thats about 250,000 Euro a head, its not a lot of money, when you start to think about, the positions these people held.
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Edited by: Teffle  Nov 5, 10, 21:53    #10
Plus, don't mean to be crude or insenstive, but isn't it possible that in terms of salaries, pensions, expenses etc that they could well have cost the state even more had they lived?
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 Nov 5, 10, 22:01    #11
warszawski:
They died while on a official state visit to Katyn, lets look at the numbers 100 Mln Pln ( 25Mln Euro) thats about 250,000 Euro a head, its not a lot of money, when you start to think about, the positions these people held.

And? If it were private, they could sue for negligence. But, it was a government flight, good luck suing them. The majority should have had insurance.

Soldiers that die in combat in Poland don't get that kind of money, why should these people?

Teffle:
Plus, don't mean to be crude or insenstive, but isn't it possible that in terms of salaries, pensions, expenses etc that they could well have cost the state even more had they lived?

Economically it doesn't make sense, you're paying for a person who's not doing anything because they're dead, and someone hired to replace them. If their positions would have died with them, you'd be right. Not cheaper by a long shot.
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 Nov 5, 10, 22:18    #12
convex:
Economically it doesn't make sense, you're paying for a person who's not doing anything because they're dead, and someone hired to replace them. If their positions would have died with them, you'd be right. Not cheaper by a long shot.


Of course. Stupid post really. I blame Tyskie.
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Edited by: sobieski  Nov 5, 10, 22:25    #13
What is the difference between them and ordinary citizens loosing a loved one? Because they are PIS or PIS-related?
Why LK's daughter has to receive a fortune? Was she insured? If not, it means the taxpayer (including me) is paying that "compensation". I would like to get a refund in this case.
And the cost of the Duck's funeral on Wawel.
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 Nov 5, 10, 22:58    #14
sobieski:
Why LK's daughter has to receive a fortune? Was she insured?


I will repeat - her parent were insured. The money she got was paid by Warta the insurance company, not the government.
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Edited by: peterweg  Nov 5, 10, 23:04    #15
Normal compensation for air crash victims is a Million dollars.
I fact I met woman whose father died in the 1972 BA crash at Heathrow and was given 1 million. She was comfortbly wealthy even today; she had no father however. She never knew him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_European_Airways_Flight_548
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 Nov 5, 10, 23:10    #16
I would be really pissed if I was paying any taxes in this phucked up country of Poland,but I am not.
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 Nov 5, 10, 23:13    #17
peterweg:
Normal compensation for air crash victims is a Million dollars.

The Montreal Agreement caps liability at 100k SDR. Some airlines pay out more to settle and not go to court.

More importantly, the Montreal Agreement applies to civil, not military/government flights.
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 Nov 5, 10, 23:43    #18
grubas:
I would be really pissed if I was paying any taxes in this phucked up country of Poland,but I am not.

Unpatriotic scum
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 Nov 6, 10, 01:26    #19
convex:

Soldiers that die in combat in Poland don't get that kind of money, why should these people?


I understand your point, members of the armed forces are given a rough deal in most countries,especially in time of conflict, in the Uk, there are soldiers that lost their limbs ++ and they had to rely on foundations and charity.With the public outcry the situation is being addressed and we will see a better deal for the injured and the families of those KIA.



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