The future of Poland and the European Union

Matowy:
Seriously, anyone who thinks religion is going to the death of Europe/EU is just stupid.

nobody said it would.

Post number 2. It snowballs from there.

Did anybody really think that you can "unite" a few countries who have a different language, culture, history etc and make them live happily ever after?

Anyway, they modeled in based on American union, so it's not anything new. It's just more artificial.

I can see how this "unity" works - even on this forum.

Without the EU it would be every country again out only for itself...the big countries would maybe even profit from that, but I promise you the little countries would not...back to the usual european conditions like the last centuries.
(And we know how happy they all were, don't we)

The budget rulebook had been revamped after France and Germany repeatedly broke pact rules.

It succeeds already and if the UK would get with the Schengen Agreement it would be even more successful.

EU means unity with differences, we are all different countries and cultures (there are differences in the USA, but not was many). If anything looking at history, EU stops us "from slapping each other". We have had a long spell of peace in Europe (relatively speaking). Without EU some would be weaker to the benefits of others. Alliances, taking territory, but hey Poland knows this better than most!!!!

In terms of the comments about muslims and other minorities: I too live with a polish girl/polish friends. Poland wasn't exposed to these minorities groups historically, so there's an adaptation time to different cultures. Also when you move to a foreign country to work you tend to go to the cheaper areas to live, so you tend to mix with other minority groups doing the same. English cities like Bradford are a culture shock to brits, never mind other European groups without exposure to muslim groups, etc.

Also brits tend to be gagged with politically correctness and are shocked when people criticize openly. Go back to the 70's and brits did just the same.

In terms of the comments about muslims and other minorities: ... Poland wasn't exposed to these minorities groups historically,

you are ignorant or simple unaware of reality

and who cling to their Pound.

Post number 2. It snowballs from there.

This is not true at all. Not even close.

you are ignorant or simple unaware of reality

The pound is worth more than the Euro, USD, and most certainly the PLN. I don't see any benefits to giving it up.

...
In November 2005 the euro again began to rise steadily against the U.S. dollar, hitting one record high after another. On 15 July 2008, the euro rose to an all-time high of $1.5990 (€0.6254/$). In a reversal, in August 2008 the euro began to drop against the U.S. dollar. In just two weeks the euro fell from its peak to $1.48 and by late October it reached a two and a half year low below $1.25 before moving back above $1.40 by August 2009.[41]

On 29 December 2008, the pound sterling fell to an all-time low of £0.97855 (€1.0219/£) against the euro.[42]

The pound is worth more than the Euro

The EU is not only a successfull peacekeeping organization between it's members but enormously successful economical as well...

This is not true at all. Not even close

They mean the same thing.

Which bit?

EU means unity with differences

we are all different countries and cultures (there are differences in the USA, but not was many).

If anything looking at history, EU stops us "from slapping each other".

We have had a long spell of peace in Europe (relatively speaking).

Without EU some would be weaker to the benefits of others. Alliances, taking territory,

but hey Poland knows this better than most!!!!

In terms of the comments about muslims and other minorities: I too live with a polish girl/polish friends.

Poland wasn't exposed to these minorities groups historically, so there's an adaptation time to different cultures.

Also when you move to a foreign country to work you tend to go to the cheaper areas to live, so you tend to mix with other minority groups doing the same.

English cities like Bradford are a culture shock to brits, never mind other European groups without exposure to muslim groups, etc

Also brits tend to be gagged with politically correctness and are shocked when people criticize openly. Go back to the 70's and brits did just the same.

I rather tend to think the pound has more a psychological meaning for Englanders, a reminder about times they mattered more than others, having an empire etc.

If anything, British people choose not to adopt the Euro because they generally dislike the unity that the EU stands for,

Matowy

no looking good :(

In United Kingdom there are almost two and a half million unemployed

yes, jokes about Poles are famous

you suggest adaptation of Poland?

then go to live to Bronx and mix there

The EU is not only a successfull peacekeeping organization between it's members

Then, expect new war on Balkan, at least

we (people from the region) and our children are here exclusively to satisfy necesities of England&friends

The pound is an extremely strong currency worldwide. It's more practical and beneficial to keep it until such time as the Euro surpasses it.

Not a joke or meant as a joke.

I mean that apart from the Serbia et al the rest of Europe has been quite stable in terms of borders since the war.

Poland has had a tough history and problems with borders from 1700 all the way up to 1989.

I meant I don't need to explain it in this forum.

Not at all, I'm pointing out that polish people living in UK are experiencing new cultures, which aren't always nice.

I agree that they shouldn't have to adapt.

Again I'm not saying you/they should.

You obviously decided to attack my post

but I'm glad that you explained, because you obviously misunderstood everything I said.

Including the "how convinient". It's because of my gf that I have an interest in Poland; I guess other people are only here to argue.

I'm confused.

Elaborate a bit more. How is UK economic downturn a trigger to war in the Balkans?

The future of the European Union

It will probably succeed but without Britain and Ireland maybe?

One lives in hope. It would be a most welcome development. :)