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 Dec 13, 11, 11:55    #841
blackadder:
German would say und,not i for word ''and''
BUSTED HAHAHA



LOL YESS!

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 Dec 13, 11, 12:01    #842
FlaglessPole:
LOL YESS!

serbin forum militia alert lol
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 Dec 13, 11, 13:02    #843
blackadder:
German would say und,not i for word ''and''


A Croat would say und?
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 Dec 13, 11, 13:07    #844
southern:
A Croat would say und?

doesn't matter what you say now southern, he got busted good, epic lol
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 Dec 13, 11, 13:11    #845
southern:
A Croat would say und?

of course. they are with the arschh at the wall.

blackadder:
''regarding slo, p i [i][/i]gre...''
German would say und,not i for word ''and''
BUSTED HAHAHA

why 'busted'? no clue what you talk about. that row was supposed to be slo, p, ire, gre...i forgot unfortunately spain aiming at the 'pigs'.

your paranoia is really sick. maybe your should consider to get professional help.
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Edited by: Natasa  Dec 13, 11, 13:16    #846
southern:
A Croat would say


Brave assumption :)

Again biting the feeding hand.

p.s. Croats don't think they are Slavs. proof 2.

stop the earth i want to get off
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 Dec 13, 11, 13:17    #847
sascha:
why 'busted'? no clue what you talk about. that row was supposed to be slo, p, ire, gre...i forgot unfortunately spain aiming at the 'pigs'.


ja ja you forgot to add 'volkswagen mit kartoffeln' at the end of the line, just to make sure everybody knew how german you are... tsk tsk
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Edited by: Moderator  Dec 13, 11, 14:31    #848
southern:
A Croat would say und?

This Croat doesn't speak German,most of Croats older than 35 years speak Russian because brothers Russians told brothers Serbs to teach Russian in Yugoslavia.

sascha:
your paranoia is really sick. maybe your should consider to get professional help.

And maybe you should behave,those steroids are eating your brain ;)
Your friends and you are paranoid,thinking whole world has turned on ''Slavija''

Natasa:
Again biting the feeding hand.

p.s. Croats don't think they are Slavs. proof 2

It's officialy recognised Croats are Slavic people here in Croatia.Google it
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 Dec 13, 11, 17:04    #849
while i can understand what we Serbians doing on this forum, i can`t understand why Germans and Croats coming here.
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 Dec 13, 11, 17:08    #850
blackadder:
And maybe you should behave,those steroids are eating your brain ;)
Your friends and you are paranoid,thinking whole world has turned on ''Slavija''

we will tell you how to behave and when you are allowed to come to our table. be thankful kleiner kroate and show some respect.

blackadder:
of course he is,he probably still cries about DDR too...
Btw Serbs have more Turkish heritage than Bosniaks,but they hate Bosniaks for being Muslim.That's just wrong.600 years of Turkish rule changed their Slavic DNA,but Serbian arrogance and aggression didn't leave them.Nato will see to it,there's a Nato base in Ismir and Aviano...Hush now or it will be Boze pravde,majcice Rusijo pomoziiiii ;)


kroate full of complexes and a barzar türke....wow, what an alliance. thats the biggest sleezer in europe combined. nice, nice.

as for the genetic heritage i would suggest you to look the info up. heres sth for the beginning...

http://www.igenea.com/en/index.php?c=132&st=725

TO THE TOPIC...cause most of the posts here are off topic ;)

until there is euro and eu, poland with this government will stick to it. just fundamental change and search for alternatives would minimize any possible damage in the future
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 Dec 13, 11, 17:10    #851
Crow:
while i can understand what we Serbians doing on this forum, i can`t understand why Germans and Croats coming here.

Croats have more in common with Poles than Serbs alone.
Poles helped us big in war..Poles welcomed us in EU few days ago.Many Poles served in Croatian army as volunteers.(Yeah Crow)We share same religion...Poles come regularly to Croatia as tourists and are among most cultured people I have seen,I have many Polish friends...So yeah...
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 Dec 13, 11, 18:23    #852
Paweł Nastula went to train with Mirko Crocop Filipović. They are good friends :)

Crow, I think you confuse mainstream Croatians with the Ustashe. Poland could easily have a good partner in them. Serbia too. Don't blame them for the meddling of Germany and foolishness of Franco Tudjman.
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Edited by: Natasa  Dec 13, 11, 18:29    #853
blackadder:
It's officialy recognised Croats are Slavic people here in Croatia.Google it


How do you feel about the fact that you are a Southern Slav? And that you will always be geographically, genetically and mentality wise closer to Serbs than to Germans or Italians or Austrians?

Honestly it was always interesting that Croats were under horrible pressure to prove that they are not Slavs, and they did very well proving it at times.

I know Google says truth sometimes, but Croats still seem to battle that fact. Some Croats.

Crow:
while i can understand what we Serbians doing on this forum, i can`t understand why Germans and Croats coming here.


Most of the Germans I observed here are checking if Poles are OK with the current power distribution, waiting for consent for everything done by their government.

Other thing is to prove to Poles that they Germans are historically their better buddies than Russians. I tend not to relativize the numbers of causalities. 1 million dead is always much more than 100 000, or than 8 000. Percentages and ratios are simply rude when it comes to human lives.


Croats, well they are sadly repeating the same behavioral pattern, letting that drive to be untergermans materialize on this screen, kind of. I had hopes for blackadder but it seems to be heritable problem. He speaks the same language like Germaniacs here.

But I privately know few OK Croats. Really OK people. But they are mostly from Istria.

stop the earth i want to get off
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 Dec 13, 11, 20:00    #854
Seanus:
row, I think you confuse mainstream Croatians with the Ustashe. Poland could easily have a good partner in them. Serbia too. Don't blame them for the meddling of Germany and foolishness of Franco Tudjman.

Ustashe died out in 1945 and that's good.Tudjman is still very touchy theme for Croats,because his interfering in Bosnia didn't get approval in homeland.And after the he didn't show very capable,something like Churchill,not peace time leader.

Seanus:
Paweł Nastula went to train with Mirko Crocop Filipović. They are good friends :)


Nastula is great Judoist,I'm familiar with his career,I remember Masuda fight.Is he still active,he's around 40 I think,great age for fighter.
Natasa:
How do you feel about the fact that you are a Southern Slav? And that you will always be geographically, genetically and mentality wise closer to Serbs than to Germans or Italians or Austrians?

Honestly it was always interesting that Croats were under horrible pressure to prove that they are not Slavs, and they did very well proving it at times.

I know Google says truth sometimes, but Croats still seem to battle that fact. Some Croats.

Why do you guys think I have a problem being Slav?Really why I must explain myself,I never said nothing about my heritage,schools in Croatia teach Croatian Slavic history,but here on PF everybody counts other guys DNA...Yes,I'm a fuckin Slav,geez...And proud of it.
We are close to Serbs in all matters,yes but not so close to forget 90's.
Again,you mix todays Croats with Ustasha regime.I'm not proud my grandpa was Ustasha officer,he was on Russian front too and survived somehow.But that's part of family history.Imagine annual family meetings with one granpa Ustasha,second Partisan...Yeah,pretty bad.
Natasa:
Percentages and ratios are simply rude when it comes to human lives.

Agree,so you don't have to reply with Jasenovac 70 years ago when we talk about Srebrenica or Vukovar 15 years ago.Not only Serbs died in Jasenovac,all political enemies were there together with their families,yeah mostly Croats.Imagine this,Stalin killed more Russians than Hitler,same thing with Ustasha!
You had your Ustasha-Chetniks.Same sh't.
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 Dec 13, 11, 20:31    #855
blackadder:
my grandpa was Ustasha officer


This explains a lot.
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 Dec 13, 11, 21:24    #856
southern:
This explains a lot.


care to share the 'lot' or you just proud of yourself 'cause you actually understood that part of his sentence?
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 Dec 13, 11, 21:30    #857
I understood more.

blackadder:
proud my grandpa was Ustasha officer,he was on Russian front

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 Dec 13, 11, 21:42    #858
southern:
But that's part of family history.Imagine annual family meetings with one granpa Ustasha,second Partisan...Yeah,pretty bad


how about that part, southern, or do you need me to spell it for you? It's ok, take your time, I know this may be too overwhelming for you...
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 Dec 13, 11, 22:16    #859
He is probably less ambitious than his grandfather.
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 Dec 13, 11, 22:28    #860
Blackadder, Nastula has won recently against Ambriz and Wroński. He's 4-4 in MMA but should be 5-3.

I know the Ustashe died out but they still live on in the minds of some Serbs. Even in Bosnia, Ante Pavlić became active with old members of his former group.

Poland wants ties with reasonable South Slavs. The war was one of the stupidest things ever to happen and Poland doesn't want to have to deal with extremists. Poland is ready for cordial cooperation with Balkanites.

As for Tudjman, well, he was as bad as Izebegović and Milosević.
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Edited by: Crow  Dec 13, 11, 22:30    #861
blackadder:
Croats have more in common with Poles than Serbs alone.

Poles see Serbs in Croats, Catholic Serbs. If you could understand this you could understand Polish role in formation of Yugoslavia. Prince Adam Chartorisky nicely spoke of Great Serbia (note- not Greater but Great!)

blackadder:
Poles helped us big in war..Poles welcomed us in EU few days ago.Many Poles served in Croatian army as volunteers.

Well, NATO and EU lured/lure Poland in great sh**. But, Polish patriots are already aware of it and they awakening. Poles and Serbs are ok.

blackadder:
We share same religion...

In Croatian society Catholicism coming on a first place and then, pro-German ideology. In Polish society, Catholicism goes hand in hand with deep loyalty to Slavdom. How could be those societies similar?

blackadder:
Poles come regularly to Croatia as tourists

thanks to Serbians. Those were Serbians who won Adriatic see for the Slavija

But don`t worry, Poles would love it even more when Dalmatia separate from Croatia. Dalmatia won`t follow Croatia in lunacy that is German zone of influence. Dalmatia, Serb Republic within Bosnia, Serbia and Montenegro goes with Poland.

blackadder:
and are among most cultured people I have seen,I have many Polish friends...

finally that we agree in something.
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 Dec 13, 11, 22:43    #862
Catholic Serbs are very much in the minority, Crow. I don't suppose most Poles give that a second thought. Poles generally like Croats and Serbs for who they are, not their religion.

The EU operates on many levels, Crow. What level do you feel dragged Poland into the doodoo?

I don't think Poles see Catholicism as being inextricably linked with Slavdom, Crow. Slavic ways come through music and other forms of heritage and less of religion.

Crow, that's very controversial history there and I don't think Poles really want to interfere with that so much. Dalmatia's status is clear for now but this history, to me anyway, is not so clear cut.

Poland's future is not to sort out the Balkans' past.
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Edited by: Crow  Dec 14, 11, 00:40    #863
Seanus

forget it Sean. Its not the moment for such a talks, i see it clearly now. Poles still seek for their final stance on Balkan (EU, everything) and its normal. Especially in situation when Poland/Poles feel relatively safe right now, with great majority of population unaware of reality. We would talk about it when things on terrain change on the behalf of Serbians. The one who is to be last to stand shall decide. Power, power
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 Dec 14, 11, 00:59    #864
Crow:
The one who is to be last to stand shall decide. Power, power


Greater Serbia ? Which lands do you think have to be Serbian ?
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Edited by: Crow  Dec 14, 11, 02:01    #865
rock:
Greater Serbia ? Which lands do you think have to be Serbian ?

Its not about anything `Greater`. Which lands have to be German, American, British, French,... etc (how many players in the game you want)? Power
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 Dec 14, 11, 06:23    #866
southern:
He is probably less ambitious than his grandfather.


well thanks for clarifying, seeing as you equate dick-headed nationalism with ambition, not that this comes as any surprise.. after all that's what you and the rest of PF's serb brigade have been preaching here for years
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Edited by: peterweg  Dec 14, 11, 11:22    #867
Crow:
while i can understand what we Serbians doing on this forum, i can`t understand why Germans and Croats coming here.


The Germans have for more in common (genetically) with the Poles than the Serbs will ever have.

You Serbs are the the only ones who think you should be here. Why don't you try a Polish forum, or did they tell you to ***** off filthy Russian"

blackadder

If you are not a raving lunatic, you are welcome here.
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 Dec 14, 11, 11:36    #868
Crow:
Well, NATO and EU lured/lure Poland in great sh**. But, Polish patriots are already aware of it and they awakening. Poles and Serbs are ok.


You Serbs can't get it into your head that Poles fought three wars against Russia in the last 100 years alone, occupied Poland, stole its land and committed genocide against its population. Joining the EU and NATO against the Russians and the crazy Serbs is one thousand times better and more important than any 'friendship' with the Slavs.
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 Dec 14, 11, 12:58    #869
Crow, why talk of power? Doing the right thing has to be for choice. America's power can be seen time and again but it doesn't make what they do right in some cases (many cases, perhaps). States have to play by certain rules but we see time and again that they don't (see Israel). If we let them off the hook then who knows where they'll draw the line. Talks of territory are for hardliners, Crow. Your Serbian Council were nothing but brutes that wanted to grab land and even Milosević wanted nothing to do with them. Right-thinking Poles can't get in bed with such people. They are hawks and are megalomaniac fools. Poles would do business with sensible folk, of which Serbia unquestionably has. However, you shoot yourselves in the foot by having radicals within your ranks. Radicals are more than happy to go to war. Many Poles have seen enough of that nonsense. Haven't you?? Poland is looking for peace and growth, nothing wrong with that! As you know, I'm far from being the biggest fan of the EU but they are putting money Poland's way quite the thing.
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Edited by: rock  Dec 14, 11, 13:10    #870
Turkey is working for good relations between Balkan countries.

Yesterday, Erdogan meet with Romanian president first and then received ministers and deputies from Montenegro, Kosovo, Macedonia, Serbia, Bulgaria and Greece.


http://www.aa.com.tr/en/manset/106652-turkish-premier-meets-romanian-p resident


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