GDP of Poland.. 338 billion pop-38.5mil Cali GDP 1.7 Trillion pop-37.7mil

RockyMasonThreads: 23 Posts: 303 Joined: Nov 20, 07 ♂	Feb 18, 08, 17:40 #1
Does poland lack wealth b/c its just fresh out of communism? Is it because of a lack of natural resources? OR is it because of the work ethic of polish workers? Is it because of the social low standing of poland vs other more well liked places? Its quite humorous how my state produces 4x more goods and services than ur country! Not to mention poland has been around for much longer than cali.

PrzemasThreads: 1 Posts: 149 Joined: Dec 12, 07 ♂	Feb 18, 08, 17:57 #2
ARNOLD 4 PRESIDENT - I BELIEVE IN CHANGE

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Feb 18, 08, 18:56 #3

Hmmm I fail to see how comparing the prosperity of 2 cultures of almost equal size fails to qualify as intelligent. Hmmm when i think about it though it really makes sense. Poland values the church and gender roles as well as conservative political opinions regarding civil rights. In cali we celebrate diversity as well as competetion and differing opinions. In poland they celebrate the church and magical saints of gobblty gookk who represent things that may never have been. These saints and this church promote this conservative unchanging and undiverse culture. ( comprised of mostly white catholics)

Any system that throws a person in jail for a fraction of a gram of marijuana is obviously inefficient.

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Feb 18, 08, 18:58 #4

RockyMason wrote:

Hmmm I fail to see how comparing the prosperity of 2 cultures of almost equal size fails to qualify as intelligent. Hmmm when i think about it though it really makes sense. Poland values the church and gender roles as well as conservative political opinions regarding civil rights. In cali we celebrate diversity as well as competetion and differing opinions. In poland they celebrate the church and magical saints of gobblty gookk who represent things that may never have been. These saints and this church promote this conservative unchanging and undiverse culture. ( comprised of mostly white catholics)

Any system that throws a person in jail for a fraction of a gram of marijuana is obviously inefficient.

O.k stoner boy. You seem to have down just pat. Go on believing that then, and don't bring up a pointless thread like this in the future.
Thanks, retard.

RockyMasonThreads: 23 Posts: 303 Joined: Nov 20, 07 ♂	Feb 18, 08, 19:03 #5
Its not pointless, obviously it has a point! ENTERTAINMENT FOR AN OVERACTIVE MIND! =)

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Feb 19, 08, 04:19 #6

RockyMason wrote:

Does poland lack wealth b/c its just fresh out of communism? Is it because of a lack of natural resources? OR is it because of the work ethic of polish workers? Is it because of the social low standing of poland vs other more well liked places? Its quite humorous how my state produces 4x more goods and services than ur country! Not to mention poland has been around for much longer than cali.

A British person could not get away with saying half of what you've said.

You're still talking bollox though.

LondonChickThreads: 43 Posts: 1,261 Joined: Nov 19, 07 ♀	Feb 19, 08, 04:50 #7
I'm not even going to indulge this jumped up frat boy....

RockyMasonThreads: 23 Posts: 303 Joined: Nov 20, 07 ♂	Feb 19, 08, 10:57 #8
HAHAHAHAHA Its called freedom of speech so obviously they can get away with it! Who cares? Say wat u would like to say! Its online its not like u need to impress any1 or sugar coat anything on here!

ZgubionyThreads: 21 Posts: 2,037 Joined: Oct 20, 06 ♂	Feb 19, 08, 11:07 #9
Yeah, why listen to someone from Caleeforneeya? Plastic land :)

Filios1Threads: 15 Posts: 1,953 Joined: Nov 13, 07 ♂	Feb 19, 08, 11:08 #10
RockyMason wrote: Its online its not like u need to impress any1 or sugar coat anything on here! True, no one needs to impress online, and you surely aren't sugercoating your ignorance and stupidity, are you? Well done.

BubbaWooThreads: 46 Posts: 4,438 Joined: Sep 26, 06 ♂	Feb 19, 08, 11:19 #11
cali cartel population: the rodríguez orejuela brothers, gilberto and miguel annual revenue: 7 billion USD there is only ONE cali... and it aint in the US

polski_zydThreads: 2 Posts: 87 Joined: Feb 19, 08 ♂	Feb 19, 08, 11:25 #12
RockyMason wrote: Any system that throws a person in jail for a fraction of a gram of marijuana is obviously inefficient. You've clearly never heard of Singapore, then, have you? Idiot.

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Feb 19, 08, 13:15 #13

RockyMason wrote:

Does poland lack wealth b/c its just fresh out of communism? Is it because of a lack of natural resources? OR is it because of the work ethic of polish workers? Is it because of the social low standing of poland vs other more well liked places? Its quite humorous how my state produces 4x more goods and services than ur country! Not to mention poland has been around for much longer than cali.

This california vs poland vs X comparison can be applied to many countries around the world. I was going to explain the situation a little but i don't really have time at the moment, and you don't sound very knowledgeable about the world so it could be frustrating. I fear that it would be like trying to teach a retard quantum physics.

Just go to a library and start reading.

Filios1Threads: 15 Posts: 1,953 Joined: Nov 13, 07 ♂	Feb 19, 08, 13:16 #14
polishcanuck wrote: I fear that it would be like trying to teach a retard quantum physics. hehe, good comparison.

TheKrukThreads: 5 Posts: 389 Joined: Apr 14, 07 ♂	Feb 19, 08, 13:49 #15
No one should go to jail for marijuana though.

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Feb 19, 08, 14:33 #16

RockyMason wrote:

Its quite humorous how my state produces 4x more goods and services than ur country!

California is the biggest and richest state of the richest country in the world, so is richer than vast majority of countries in the world and I don't see anything humorous in that.

RockyMason wrote:

Not to mention poland has been around for much longer than cali.

Well, Einstein... Quite many countries has been around for much longer than USA...

miranda	Edited by: miranda Feb 19, 08, 14:44 #17
I just don't understand why you are shagging a Polish girl/wanting to marry her and stuff and expressing such negative attitude towards Poland. One option might be that you have made her up. Poor sod. Another one is that any attention is better than none. That is even worse.

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07 ♂	Feb 20, 08, 18:25 #18
RockyMason wrote: 338 billion pop-38.5mil 631,82 bilion USD it is form the end of 2007 your data is form about 2003

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Feb 20, 08, 20:07 #19

HAHAHAHAHAHA Do u mean purchasing power parity? http://www.labor.ca.gov/panel/pdf/GDP.pdf Here is the GDP! the real one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_California#Gross_domestic_prod uct_.28GDP.29
http://www.ccsce.com/pdf/Numbers-jul07-CA-Rank.pdf

NO my data is not from about 2003! What did u smoke to come up with your #s? Whatever it is it must b damn good! Better than cali med clinic 215? I'd pay 40 buxx a gram for it if it can distort ur reality like it appears happened 2 u!

Filios1Threads: 15 Posts: 1,953 Joined: Nov 13, 07 ♂	Feb 20, 08, 21:56 #20
Can you please just die? Or leave these forums forever at least?

RockyMasonThreads: 23 Posts: 303 Joined: Nov 20, 07 ♂	Feb 20, 08, 23:09 #21
I'll leave when u quit being a drunk! Look at ur backround pic!!! Its vodka gee that leaves me to wonder... how much do u drink a day? LIVER DISEASE NE1?

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Edited by: Lukasz Feb 21, 08, 01:31 #22

RockyMason wrote:

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Yesterday, 20:07 ¦ Report #19HAHAHAHAHAHA Do u mean purchasing power parity?

find the data form the end of 2007 and start discussion.

Poland GDP purchasing-power parity is 631,82 bilion USD (2007) (I don't know why in ypur opinion it isnt real)

In english 2006
http://www.indexmundi.com/poland/gdp_(purchasing_power_parity).html

RockyMasonThreads: 23 Posts: 303 Joined: Nov 20, 07 ♂	Feb 21, 08, 11:28 #23
If u didn't know there is a difference between purchasing power parity and GDP exchange rates lol.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,647 Joined: Mar 10, 08 ♂	Jan 29, 10, 12:17 #24
GUS: The economy grew in 2009 by 1.7 percent. wyborczaBiz

convexThreads: 47 Posts: 7,189 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Jan 29, 10, 13:01 #25
As long as that growth translate into real gains to PPP. Right now, that doesn't seem to be the case. Of the 2004 ascension countries, Poland is right above last place in PPP. Poland is also carrying a fairly high public debt load. With the unemployment rate dropping (except for 2009, of course), are there really that many jobs being created? How does Poland calculate unemployment?

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Edited by: SeanBM Jan 29, 10, 13:25 #26

convex:

Of the 2004 ascension countries, Poland is right above last place in PPP

Have you got a link, please?

convex:

2009-10-01 How does Poland calculate unemployment?

I believe Poland do it through all the people who register for unemployment benefits.
The E.U. states and the Polish states are quite different.

Polish unemployment remained unchanged at 8% in August, but unemployment in the 16-member euro region increased to 9.6% from 9.5% in July, the European Union statistics office in Luxembourg said today in a communiqué quoted by wnp.pl. That’s the highest since March 1999.

Polish market online

Whereas (GUS) Poland say it is over 11% last year.

the official figure for the unemployment rate in Poland now exceeds 11 percent, according to the EU's Eurostat, the figure is only 8.1 percent.

New Polish Express

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Edited by: bullfrog Jan 29, 10, 13:39 #27

convex:

Poland is also carrying a fairly high public debt load.

In 2008, it was lower than in most EU countries (incl Germany, UK or France):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_European_Union

In 2009, it is expected to increase to 51,7%, but will remain more than 20 points below the EU average (73%) and far lower than in the US (90%)..

convex:

How does Poland calculate unemployment?

In fact, Polish rules for calculating unemployment are harsher than EU rules and lead to higher figures.. For example, the latest available Eurostat figures (dec 2009) show 8,9% unemployment for Poland versus 11,9% published by GUS!!
http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/tgm/table.do?tab=table&language=en&pc ode=teilm020&tableSelection=1&plugin=1

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Edited by: convex Jan 29, 10, 13:44 #28

SeanBM:

Have you got a link, please?

I was using the IMF data, which was a bit kinder to Poland

Eurostat has Poland dead last in PPS

http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/tgm/graph.do?tab=graph&plugin=1&pcode =tsieb010&language=en&toolbox=data

bullfrog:

In 2008, it was lower than in most EU countries (incl Germany, UK or France):

Keeping comparisons with the 2004 accession countries is probably a better gauge.

bullfrog:

In fact, Polish rules for calculating unemployment are harsher than EU rules and lead to higher figures..

i was thinking what is the criteria for someone being "unemployed"?

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Edited by: jwojcie Jan 29, 10, 14:52 #29

convex:

i was thinking what is the criteria for someone being "unemployed"?

Hm.. somehow I cann't find more credible source than wiki at the moment:
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bezrobocie#Bezrobocie_w_rozumieniu_prawa

In short according to wiki, in Poland you are unemployed when you are registered as unemployed, doesn't matter for how long.

PS. main difference between Eurostat number and GUS number is, that Eurostat somehow assess those registered unemployed which in fact are employed in grey zone. GUS don't do that. Therefore, depending on Eurostat grey zone assessment method, their number can be closer to reality.

PS2. As far as I know in Poland it is rather favourable for unemployed to register, because of health care issues. So it is rather rare cases of unemployed unregistered people.

convexThreads: 47 Posts: 7,189 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Jan 29, 10, 15:11 #30
jwojcie: In short according to wiki, in Poland you are unemployed when you are registered as unemployed, doesn't matter for how long. Do you know of any changes in the criteria over the last couple of years that may have effected unemployment numbers? Has land ownership always been part of the criteria? Or underemployment?

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