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Edited by: Crow  Apr 5, 11, 23:16    #1
20.02.2011. massive demonstrations in Warsaw calling on the Polish government to withdraw its recognition of the NATO 'state' Kosovo.

Demonstracja poparcia dla serbskiego Kosowa - Warszawa 20.02.2011



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 Apr 5, 11, 23:18    #2
Crow:
Government of Poland and PM Tusk could fall down on the `Serbian question`?



how far down is that question?
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 Apr 5, 11, 23:21    #3
FlaglessPole:
how far down is that question?

let Poles speak


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 Apr 5, 11, 23:46    #4
protest to the EU representative in Warsaw >

PIKIETA SERBSKIE KOSOWO PRZED PRZEDSTAWICIELSTWEM UE METRO SWIETOKRZYSKA 20-02-2011



Dzięki bracia Polacy! Niech żyje Polska!
Hvala braćo Poljaci! Neka živi Poljska!
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Edited by: Crow  Apr 8, 11, 19:35    #5
Polish parrots with Serbians >>>

Poland fans -Kosowo jest Serbskie !



KOSOVO IS SERBIA WARSAW 20.02.11



Demonstracja Kosowo jest Serbskie!



Polish words of support healing Serbian wounds >>>

Serbian song `Tear of Kosovo` (Suza Kosova)... about black raven that felt on Serbian land... about 1000 prayers to the heart of our Lord... about our destroyed Churches... about our beloved peace of land, heart of our spirituality- Kosovo and Metohija...


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 Apr 8, 11, 19:56    #6
Why don't you forget Kosovo now when it is an independent country? Why not move on?
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 Apr 8, 11, 20:19    #7
Lodz_The_Boat:
Why don't you forget Kosovo now when it is an independent country? Why not move on?

too long we Serbians retreat. From Baltic to Balkan, we retreat. hopefully, we would strike back now when brotherly Slavs gather to support us. Kosovo, same as Lusatia becoming Serbian and in general Slavic symbol of Anglo-Germanic oppression, humiliation and domination over Slavs

Kosowo jest Serbskie - Kosovo is Serbia!



MW Kraków przeciwko rozbiorom Serbii


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 Apr 8, 11, 20:47    #8
Crow:
Kosowo jest Serbskie - Kosovo is Serbia!

But Crow this is not the majority feeling of everyone in Poland. Let me tell you that these youtube videos do not show the real story. These are groups of people.

Poles wish well for Serbs, but we are not unanimous on Kosovo for Serbs. I think most would wish for a peaceful region ... with friendly neighbors and good economy all over.

People want a share of the modern world, they want to explore possibilities of new alliances, new friends, new relations and opportunities. It doesn't mean we want to go away from old friends, it just means we wish to have a life which is less constrained ...

The chain of violence must end somewhere ...
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 Apr 8, 11, 20:50    #9
This is interesting information.

I didn't know there was this strong of a Slavic bond between Serbs and Poles.

I know the past Polish president was a supporter of Serbia.
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 Apr 8, 11, 20:52    #10
MediaWatch:
I didn't know there was this strong of a Slavic bond between Serbs and Poles.


There isn't. In fact, I'd suggest that there's much more of a bond between Croatia and Poland than Serbia and Poland - Poles were among the first to start going back to Croatia after the war, anyway.
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 Apr 8, 11, 21:01    #11
delphiandomine:
There isn't. In fact, I'd suggest that there's much more of a bond between Croatia and Poland than Serbia and Poland - Poles were among the first to start going back to Croatia after the war, anyway.


I'm sure not everyone in Poland supports Serbia the way these Polish demonstrators do.

But I'm surprised that there are these hundreds of Poles that would go out of their way to demonstrate for Serbia. For these hundreds of Polish Pro-Serbia demonstrators, I'm sure there are many more Poles out there who feel the same way as them.

Anyway, its nice to see these Polish demonstrators support Serbia.
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Edited by: Crow  Apr 8, 11, 21:18    #12
MediaWatch:
This is interesting information.

new informations...

Polish intelligentsia analyze `Kosovo situation` from many different angles. But, no matter what pollitical background, Polish elite suggests necessity that Polish state annul Kosovo recognition by official Poland. All in all Poland is awaken

Prof.dr hab. Jerzy Robert Nowak, Radio Maryja (2008-04-26) >>>

Rola Niemiec w rozbiciu Jugosławii



Według Janusza Korwin Mikke >>>

Uznanie niepodległości Kosowa to wielki błąd



Janusz Korwin Mikke o paradoksie Kosowa


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 Apr 8, 11, 21:35    #13
MediaWatch:
I didn't know there was this strong of a Slavic bond between Serbs and Poles.

Racowie
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 Apr 8, 11, 21:55    #14
opinions >>>

Jacek Mojkowski o Kosowo: tu rządzi mafia



Stanisław Michalkiewicz o Kosowo: pocałunek Almanzora na czole Europy, złożony przez


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 Apr 8, 11, 22:37    #15
There appears to be sympathy and empathy between many Poles and Serbs because of past contact between the groups.

It seems there has been a low-profile history between Serbs and Poles.
http://www.polishserbian-friendship.rs/index.php?lang=en

http://www.crossed-flag-pins.com/Friendship-Pins/Serbia/Flag-Pins-Serb ia-Poland.html

Its interesting that some of the friends of the famous Serbian scientist Nikola Tesla, were Polish like Ignace Paderewski.
http://www.teslasociety.com/famousfriends.htm
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 Apr 8, 11, 22:42    #16
Serbs are true allies.They have never fought against Greece,Poland,Russia and they will never do.
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 Apr 9, 11, 10:17    #17
southern:
They have never fought against Greece,Poland,Russia and they will never do


No, we are loyal dogs.
Loyalty to brothers is highly valued here. (it doesn't function on the interpersonal level that good)

stop the earth i want to get off
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 Apr 9, 11, 11:45    #18
delphiandomine:
There isn't. In fact, I'd suggest that there's much more of a bond between Croatia and Poland than Serbia and Poland - Poles were among the first to start going back to Croatia after the war, anyway.

And Poles fought on the Croatian side when Croatia was invaded by Serbian scum.

Crow:
hopefully, we would strike back now when brotherly Slavs gather to support us

Highly unlikely: you clearly think it's been too long since Serbs engaged in their traditional pass-time of raping and murdering but the rest of the world disagrees.
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 Apr 9, 11, 11:52    #19
Natasa:

Loyalty to brothers is highly valued here. (it doesn't function on the interpersonal level that good)

Do you know why?

I feel because on the interpersonal level you get to know the person closely. Anyone you feel interested in (on any level) are people who will most probably be scrutinized by you on a deeper level. From distance they might look good, bolstered by your aspirations, perceptions, your own demands and in some cases nostalgic imagination based on his background of surroundings.

However when you look deeper, or perhaps under a microscope (which mostly happens between individuals), you will begin to see those spots and holes in their package. You will also notice those rough edges, those unpleasant textures and shades. This will cause you to look at the whole matter in a different way.

When it comes to Poland and Serbia, we are two nations who have shared a lot of history. We have a kinship when it comes to genes and ancestors. However we are TWO, not ONE. Even two brothers from the same womb are different in nature.

I feel that Poland is more "romantic" and a lot more soft at heart compared to their friends around their borders. I personally feel that we have a heart which beats more than any other hearts in Europe (its my arguable perspective). In such a case, it will not be easy to come to terms with a violent proposal, just because it was handed out by a brother. We do have our own minds, values and principals, let alone interests.

At most the general masses can only wish for the best future of Serbia. However, the "general masses" also have some very happy wishes for themselves along with all the members of this New Europe and more specially this BEAUTIFUL WIDE WORLD.

:) ...
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 Apr 9, 11, 11:53    #20
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There appears to be sympathy and empathy between many Poles and Serbs because of past contact between the groups.


Between hooligans, yes.

Don't forget that Serbian hooligans are among the best hooligans in the world in terms of causing trouble, destroying things and fighting everyone - and that's why the Polish hooligans want to make friends with them.

MW - usually, people who support the Kosovo is Serbian issue are the ones who are extreme right wing. I'm not exactly sure how it came about, but it's a lot to do with the politics of the former East - the same people who demand the return of Lwów are the same ones who support Kosovo being reintegrated into Serbia.

As I said - Poles and Croats are on much better terms, due to the same religion and Polish efforts to help Croatia during and after the war. If you don't believe me - ask yourself, who has been Belgrade's friend during the 1990's and 2000's? I'll give you a clue - the country name starts with "R". And really, what self respecting Pole would ever want to be friends with them?
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 Apr 9, 11, 14:56    #21
Lodz_The_Boat:
I feel that Poland is more "romantic" and a lot more soft at heart


Yes,we saw your soft heart towards Ukrainians in the past.

Natasa:
Loyalty to brothers is highly valued here.


Yes,I know.The Serbs never betray their allies.They have a sense of honour.Even if this means they have to suffer.
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 Apr 9, 11, 14:58    #22
southern:

Yes,we saw your soft heart towards Ukrainians in the past.

Elaborate ... with logic.
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 Apr 9, 11, 15:04    #23
When you had the upper hand in the '20s and the '30s you treated them like dirt.For example I think in the university of Lvov only two ukrainian students were admitted each year.
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Edited by: Crow  Apr 9, 11, 15:50    #24
Harry:
Highly unlikely: you clearly think it's been too long since Serbs engaged in their traditional pass-time of raping and murdering but the rest of the world disagrees.

fart on you Harry

fart on you for your constant repeat of anti-Serbian propaganda that was invented by EU, NATO and Islamic league
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 Apr 9, 11, 16:25    #25
southern:
you treated them like dirt.

We did not.

southern:
For example I think in the university of Lvov only two ukrainian students were admitted each year.

It might be for some other reasons, and nothing to do with ethnic tension.

Southern, you cannot color everything with the same brush.

You need to recognize that even for the nicest and warmest of families, there are points and patches in time were they have to first consider their most important interests before coming out to extend a hand to others.

The Eras which you mention have been some very unsettled time for Poland, even though we achieved economic growth in those times, these were times of intense political stress on Poland. Detailed history you can yourself unearth.

We have nothing against Ukrainians, and Ukrainians were always a presence in Poland. We had always been generally a welcoming warm and friendly nation.
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Edited by: Crow  Apr 9, 11, 16:31    #26
southern:
Yes,I know.The Serbs never betray their allies.They have a sense of honour.Even if this means they have to suffer.

This is great truth.

Here is my suggestion...

if wise Poland would play on Serbians. Poland don`t have anything to lose. Without Serbs, Poland would be with time slowly assimilated by her so called `friends` from the west of Europe. With Serbians, Poland have chance to apply for power from Balkan to Baltic and to be leading force of Europe.

Let it be clear here. Russia has same interest regarding Poland and regarding Serbia. For Russia is quite enough that Poland and Serbia just exist as Slavic, as kind of tampon zone on Russian western borders. Its little bit selfish Russian stance. Poland`s stance is rather passive, in subjugated position on both- so called west and on Russia. On the other side, Serbs don`t accept `just to exist` and they force Russia to act if wants her interests satisfied.

So, if Serbia openly move (and Serbs are known as lucid and ready for everything) to offer hand of alliance to Poland, so called west would automatically act to punish Serbia (they would found any reason). On that, Russia would immediately act to protect Serbs in order to prevent Serbian total disaster and with it disaster of complete Slavic south that would result of direct enemy approach to Russian borders from that direction.

Now, have in mind that Serbia aren`t in official alliance with Russia and that both players act independently from the position of their own interests. So, in that moment, when Russia move to protect Serbia, Poland needs to grab the opportunity and accept alliance with Serbians. That would cut action of so called west against Serbs and they would analyze new development. If they continue against Serbs they could force Poland and Serbia to enter in open alliance with Russia, Ukraine, etc Slavs. That is last what so called west want and they would stop. Russia would then also halt its action. In that moment, situation would finally depend on Poland, after 1000 years. That would be `small window of opportunity` for Poland, probably last chance in the history. Poland should turn to Serbia for joint call in mutual alliance to: Czech Rep., Slovakia, Hungary, Ukraine, Romania, Moldavia, Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Montenegro, Macedonia and Bulgaria, maybe even to Greece. Polish-Serbian joint call would move people in those countries out on the streets. That would be creation of `Internarum`, also known as Centroslavia, Sarmatia Europae or should i say Międzymorze. Serbs themselves would promote Warsaw as capital and Polish language as official language of Alliance.

Both, Russia and so called west would accept new situation. Poles would have all rights to feel the joy of triumph and we Serbs would be satisfied with salvation of our ancient and glorious Slavic civilization. We all have our role. We Serbs- Racowie would found our glory
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 Apr 9, 11, 16:58    #27
Serbians already accepted one headed eagle of Poland. We can only add Sarmatian Dragon on the shoulder of the eagle

Together we can make it Poles!

Polish- Serbian Friendship



Poles with Racowie (Serbians)

POLACY W OBRONIE SERBII Polish support for Serbian brothers



Poland with Serbia (Kraków-2008-02-22)


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 Apr 9, 11, 16:58    #28
Crow:
We Serbs- Racowie would found our glory

Yes, times must be tough now that you can't get glory in your traditional way: invading neighbouring countries to rape old women and murder their husbands.
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Edited by: Crow  Apr 9, 11, 17:01    #29
Crow:
Polish parrots with Serbians >>>

in my post #5

its not `parrots`. Its patriots. i looks like true oximoron in my own eyes. Sorry for this technical mistake, i apologize

Harry:
Yes, times must be tough now that you can't get glory in your traditional way: invading neighbouring countries to rape old women and murder their husbands.

no wonder that Poles don`t likes you Harry and don`t want you on Polishforums. You provoke with your lies. You are liar Harry with no shame, real pizda-man
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 Apr 9, 11, 17:18    #30
Crow:
Poland should turn to Serbia for joint call in mutual alliance to: Czech Rep., Slovakia, Hungary, Ukraine, Romania, Moldavia, Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Montenegro, Macedonia and Bulgaria, maybe even to Greece. Polish-Serbian joint call would move people in those countries out on the streets.

Let us not forget Lithuania, Letonia and Estonia


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