Grafitti plague in Warsaw

There is no need for grafitti.

But far less than half a clue about art.

Equally criminal. Equally loathsome.

gumishu:

I was not targeting homes :P just walls of a garrage complex and a wall in public toilet at the railway station :P

Equally criminal. Equally loathsome. What kind of pleasure it gave you to do this?
That is what civic society is about. The common set of values to be respected. This is a concept which no grafitti criminal will understand.
Hooded sprayers should be have their tags branded in their foreheads and flogged on Plac Zamkowy.

Please teach me something then

I take boiling, rage-filled exception to mindless tagging and/or primitive scribbling of no merit against the will of the owners.

Exactly - though the penalty is up to 2 years in prison.

There's no need for any form of art. Basically 4 bare concrete walls would function just as well as the York Cathedral

Please teach me something then, JonnyM..

so a can of paint shoved up their ass would do just fine.

It must also have some degree of craftsmanship though there is a debate on this (see Gombrich) - I could carve a sculpture - but would it be accepted as a sculpture?

Your sculpture would have to be recognized as a sculpture, it means that art have to have universal appeal.

Okay, try this...... CONTEXT MATTERS!

Gladly.

Art must have an intention to be art

It must also have some degree of craftsmanship

I could carve a sculpture - but would it be accepted as a sculpture?

Is this art?

Is that your definition of art? :)

. Do you think that the painter of the picture No.1 had the intention to make art? Or was he/she just expressing whatever he/she felt like expressing? Yet, for some reason it's called art - maybe because it's a couple of thousands years older than the painting you posted...

Why not? What does it mean "to be accepted as a sculpture"? By whom? By the public?

By whom? By the public? It has been proven many times that the public will accept as art anything named so by the media :(

I don't know. I don't like it as graffiti. The message of it is not readable to me

perhaps the building's owner is a vile man and the message means "You should repent!".. lol

The message is that damaging it with a spray can is more naughty than just spitting on it.

The Lascaux cave paintings

hose handprints are there to create an intangibe impression.

Your picture number 2 is art

Don't get me wrong - I do get the differnce between art and vandalism, but I also realize that the border between them is not always so distinc as some people would like to see it.

If you hooded friends spray on any space which is not their own property, that is vandalism and a crime

It puts YOU in the same league with solvent-sniffers in the train stations

That one was not Lascaux, but nevermind.

I also realize that the border between them is not always so distinct as some people would like to see it.

That's true.

In the legendary Lascaux caves in France's Dordogne, there are indeed colourful scenes of deer and woolly mammoths. But the majority of prehistoric work shows little more than human genitalia crudely scratched into stone.
"In schools all over the world, you go to the toilets and far enough back in the toilet booth you'll start seeing these same sexual images," said Professor Dale Guthrie

And have you ever thought that all those prehistoric paintings are graffiti as well?

So in a million years time some boffin is going to look at the cave paintings , and the graffiti in Warsaw

If the human kind doesn't change dramatically, they will even be preserving the graffiti in Warsaw and charging visitors for watching it

And have you ever thought that all those prehistoric paintings are graffiti as well? :)

If the human kind doesn't change dramatically, they will even be preserving the graffiti in Warsaw and charging visitors for watching it

They aren't. Grafitti is deliberate damage to the built environment - prehistoric cave paintings are interior decor.

Chichimera - you have inspired me to create 'art' by going on an artistic crime spree through Wrocław - Look out for the artistic bloodstains left on the road after my car chase, the crying children looking at their artistically destroyed teddy, and the artfully destroyed town hall.

What do you think about the hooded creeps who destroy railcars, ruin newly planted flower beds?

Grafitti is deliberate damage to the built environment

And explaining the HWDP by telling the visitors that it was an ancient late 20th/early 21st century Polish tradition to put your Huj W Dupie Policjanta

But maybe the neighbours sneaked in and did it while the cave owners were out....?