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 Jan 12, 11, 11:37    #1
Despite an ‘email bombing’ campaign, the ZNAK publishing company intends to go ahead with the publication in Poland of Golden Harvest, the latest work by controversial author Jan T. Gross, which alleges some Poles benefited materially from the fate of Jews during the Holocaust.

A campaign, launched by Anna and right wing journalist Andrzej Kołakowski began on 5 January after news that Golden Harvest would be published in Poland in February.

The protestors urge that people aggrieved by what they see as a book that is “defamatory” against the Polish nation bombard the email addresses of the ZNAK publishers, based in Krakow.
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Editor-in-chief at ZNAK, Jerzy Illg told the Gazeta Wyborcza daily that the emails have already started to arrive. “We have received a lot of protests, bizarrely from those who have not read the book and are not familiar with its contents”.

And before anybody tries to say that these cretins are not anti-semites:
The authors of the protest email, however, say the that Golden Harvest is a good title, as “Not only Gross but the world‘s Jewish community are waiting for corn to become ripe in Poland so they can make a golden harvest,” referring the “tens of millions of dollars” Jews are demanding in restitution of property confiscated by the Nazis during WW II.

http://www.thenews.pl/international/?id=147085

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Edited by: Bratwurst Boy  Jan 12, 11, 11:53    #2
The authors of the protest email, however, say the that Golden Harvest is a good title, as “Not only Gross but the world‘s Jewish community are waiting for corn to become ripe in Poland so they can make a golden harvest,” referring the “tens of millions of dollars” Jews are demanding in restitution of property confiscated by the Nazis during WW II.

Now that was a stupid statement... Putting their foot in their mouth like that!
Making their maybe even righteous indignation quite dishonest...
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 Jan 12, 11, 12:04    #3
Harry:
they can make a golden harvest,” referring the “tens of millions of dollars” Jews are demanding in restitution of property confiscated by the Nazis during WW II.

Nothing against them, but being the holder of close to 90% of world's capital, having even more is not a bad thing. From whom so ever...
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 Jan 12, 11, 12:06    #4
Haha that reminds me when my father asked in a bookstore in Zakopane if they will be selling "Neighbours" and got a scornful look from the vendor. He said they are not selling these kinds of books in his bookstore...

Anyways that was quite obvious that the book is going to be published, why wouldn't they. Every time there's a book that touches this delicate subject there are antisemites moaning even though they haven't read it yet. These books are published and will be getting published until the reigns of some right wing nationalistic party.
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 Jan 12, 11, 12:08    #5
Not to mention that they don't have to pay anything for advertising!

Now even more people would like to read it just to see what the fuss is all about...
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 Jan 12, 11, 12:11    #6
Bratwurst Boy:
Not to mention that they don't have to pay anything for advertising!

Correct. We did them the biggest favor in marketing ;-)
frd:
These books are published and will be getting published until the reigns of some right wing nationalistic party.

My guess is that that doesn't have anything to do with it. Their community on the world level ist simply too strong, regardless who reigns and who doesn't.
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 Jan 12, 11, 12:15    #7
Bratwurst Boy:
Now that was a stupid statement... Putting their foot in their mouth like that!

Evil does tend to bear the seeds of its own destruction.
alexw68 Edited by: alexw68  Jan 12, 11, 12:20    #8
Harry:
Evil does tend to bear the seeds of its own destruction.

Hmmm, but in some cases it does have the better uniforms.

What I find reassuring is the nice fit between that kind of evil and rampant, illiterate stupidity. Imagine if these people actually had a f*cking clue how to run a PR campaign, or the AQ hicks could really read a technical manual without moving their lips?

That, in all honesty, would be the worrying thing.
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 Jan 13, 11, 13:27    #9
There's no disputing that in our tabloidised, Jerry Springeresque world, weaned on Monty Python-type garbage, every row, punch-up, mud-singing contest or other protest or controversy only helps sell more books. The question remains: how is anti-Polish defamation to be recitified in an effective rather than coutnerproductive manner? They've got their B'nai B'rith Anti-Defamation League. Is that the way to go? The only problem would be the lack of the kind of megabucks bankrolling the ADL!
alexw68  Jan 13, 11, 13:51    #10
Polonius3:
There's no disputing that in our tabloidised, Jerry Springeresque world, weaned on Monty Python-type garbage


You've not forgotten your Newspeak, then ...
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Edited by: Harry  Jan 13, 11, 13:59    #11
Polonius3:
ow is anti-Polish defamation to be recitified in an effective rather than coutnerproductive manner

Perhaps you could start by recognising that Polish history (as with the history of all nations) contains somethings to be ashamed of and learned from.
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 Jan 13, 11, 14:10    #12
And that goes for Jewish history as well, doesn't it? But you don't get much of that from Gross whose motto is: 'Who pays the piper calls the tune!'
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 Jan 13, 11, 14:14    #13
Polonius3:
But you don't get much of that from Gross whose motto is: 'Who pays the piper calls the tune!'

Read much of his stuff have you?
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 Jan 13, 11, 18:43    #14
So basicaly what the anti's are after is a bit of book burning,just without having to go to the bother of burning anything? Lazy fascism if ever I saw it!
Maybe you lot need a bit of Krafft fur durch to squeeze out from behind the pc now and again....an internet campaign to ban a book,get over yourselfs,what a bunch of servile sheep.
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 May 19, 11, 17:46    #15
Gross and his publishers also gave philo-semites the finger. His inflammatory, biased, unconfirmed, unsupported and judgmental generalizations gives all Poles the finger, and especially those who are not anti-semites and do not deserve his misplaced and broadly targeted accusations.
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 May 19, 11, 18:36    #16
Actually I like Gross' books, but at times he can be tiresome...Too much trying to push his point home, while we know it is true.
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 May 19, 11, 19:03    #17
sobieski:
while we know it is true.


Who is we? Are you talking about your schizophrenia ?


Gross publishers do not give anti-semities the finger but if anything he encourages rise of just indignations against lies the book contains. Some of those abused by Gross's lies could be prone to generalizations and blame all Jews instead of those responsible.
Such inflammatory material should be used to stuff clowns as the one above with it, a fame that have instead of a brain would surly set it afire.
:)
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 May 19, 11, 20:12    #18
Ironside:
Who is we?

Sobieski is the BORG, join the collective now.
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Edited by: hubabuba  May 20, 11, 00:03    #19
frd:
Every time there's a book that touches this delicate subject there are antisemites moaning


well Your mind seems so simple, didnt it occure to You that, the ones who are moaning dont have to be antisemites?maybe, just maybe they have a reason to moan?



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