HIV infected Nigerian has bitten bus ticket's controler in Cracow!

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 ♂ [Moderator]	Aug 11, 11, 16:41 #31
So is it the same on trains in Poland or are the Bus controllers a different breed to the train people? two different breeds. the train folk have always been polite (apart from the one i nearly gave a good hiding) tram controllers are as stated above.

blacky	Aug 11, 11, 17:02 #32
who are you to say all africans are hiv positive.you are very racist,we dont have suffer for one man"s mistakes

SzwedwPolsceThreads: 13 Posts: 1,915 Joined: Feb 21, 09 ♂	Aug 11, 11, 19:18 #33
The risk of getting HIV by a bite is small.

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Edited by: mafketis Aug 11, 11, 19:27 #34

delphiandomine wrote:

Given that those of us living in Poland routinely see the trouble that these 'controllers' cause on a daily basis, many of them being nothing but lowlife morons - it wouldn't surprise anyone here if he was.

Gotta say I don't see it. People don't like them because they don't like paying for their ticket. I can't say I've had any really bad experiences with them but have seen a lot of passengers with no ticket (and no excuse) be rude.

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Aug 11, 11, 20:42 #35

in the first place it is unconstitutional and immoral to disclose someone's hiv status,what happens to Dr-patient confidentiality the guy should expose and sue those who accused them. How sure are you if this ticket controller was not HIV positive form the start? It is their word against this Nigerian guy and also you have to confirm it after two tests or they are trying to get rid of Africans because they are progressing and they are not man enough to their women who have have fallen for African men because of their package. The Poland is not ready to be on the EU, this matter we will take it to the EU parliament, is it because this person is black? Secondly as a country with racists we should make sure that the EU final is not playing in Poland next year. Lastly we as the Africans should end diplomatic relations with Poland and take our away our investors. What is the Nigerian Embassy saying about this? The Government should make out a statement to indicate if they condone this and we will sign a petition as African countries and take it to the UN that the Africans are degraded in Poland and expose them so that they are not supported financial, no investors come and boost Poland and cancel the citizenship of Polish people in our African countries,chase them away from working or doing voluntary work in our countries.

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 ♂ [Moderator]	Aug 11, 11, 21:18 #36
How sure are you if this ticket controller was not HIV positive form the start? interesting point. the rest of your post i see as a rant though.

grubasThreads: 20 Posts: 1,452 Joined: Feb 1, 10 ♂	Edited by: Moderator Aug 11, 11, 21:59 #37
The Poland is not ready to be on the EU, this matter we will take it to the EU parliament, Secondly as a country with racists we should make sure that the EU final is not playing in Poland next year Careful here.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Aug 11, 11, 23:30 #38
And this is tolerance, grubas?

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Aug 12, 11, 03:45 #39

Gotta say I don't see it. People don't like them because they don't like paying for their ticket. I can't say I've had any really bad experiences with them but have seen a lot of passengers with no ticket (and no excuse) be rude.

I've seen quite a bit of trouble on the services that go outside the city (non-ZTM organised) - often with controllers just being rude or aggressive. There was something a while ago in Poznan too where a controller had assaulted someone on video - I don't recall the specifics, though. I'm also not fond of the intimidatory tactics they use at times - and especially not of the way that they were authorised to use force.

The worst habit of theirs is to try and block the exits from the trams and buses at stops - winds me up no end, especially as I'm not big enough to push them out of the way.

convexThreads: 46 Posts: 7,185 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Aug 12, 11, 11:58 #40
Secondly as a country with racists we should make sure that the EU final is not playing in Poland next year. Why would black people voluntarily move to Poland if everyone knows it's so racist? Doesn't make a lot of sense.

grubasThreads: 20 Posts: 1,452 Joined: Feb 1, 10 ♂	Edited by: grubas Aug 12, 11, 12:43 #41
Careful here. Hey,how come was my post removed?I did not use any racial slur nor did I call anybody names!

espanaThreads: 40 Posts: 2,233 Joined: Feb 28, 07 ♂	Aug 12, 11, 12:57 #42
Why would black people voluntarily move to Poland if everyone knows it's so racist? you haven't noticed, black people steal a lot of things...poland is heaven and Africa a hell for them .

pipThreads: 11 Posts: 1,293 Joined: Jul 4, 11 ♀	Aug 12, 11, 13:39 #43
you haven't noticed, black people steal a lot of things...poland is heaven and Africa a hell for them . this is one of the stupidest things I have ever read. Do you have a brain?

TheManThreads: - Posts: 84 Joined: Jun 14, 11 ♂	Aug 12, 11, 19:03 #44
you haven't noticed, black people steal a lot of things... So are you saying the majority of thieves in poland are black? Or that if we go to a polish prison all of them will be black? I wonder how many EU migrants are in polish jails...

LwowskaKrakowThreads: 49 Posts: 504 Joined: Mar 9, 07 MEMBER ♀	Aug 12, 11, 19:22 #45
you haven't noticed, black people steal a lot of things... Hateful and stupid comment typical of the white trash.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Aug 12, 11, 20:23 #46
Exactly! How do you know they steal many things? Stats? LOL Do you watch them do it? Is there an HIVdar like some say there is a gaydar? ;) If not then the OP is speaking nonsense.

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Aug 14, 11, 15:12 #47

The vast majority of crap they get is self inflicted.
The amount of stories in the press about their behaviour, the stories online - everyone knows that being a ticket controller is the lowest of the low in Poland - all because of their attitude towards people.

Why shouldn't someone talk back? At least here, they are expected to be polite and to announce the start/end of the controls. If they don't do the job properly, why should they be treated with any respect? Demanding a ticket in a rude way isn't going to win them any favours.

I've never had any problem with a ticket controller in Poland. I haven't even met 1 unfriendly ticket controler.
So it's ridiculous that you try to blame him instead of that aggressive negro.

Grubas, I never heard this term Afro African ? what do you mean? If he is from Nigeria, Africa can't he just be called an African?
Also does it really matter that this chap was black yellow or white ? He cheated on the Bus and tried to escape by biting the conductor that's all.
I am even surprised that a Gazeta Wyborcza jounalist wrote an article about that.
Pathetic..

Because he is an immigrant. Polish people have the right to know how immigrants behave, especially immigrants from 3rd world countries.
There is no reason to disguise his ethnic background for the sake of political correctness.

I'm more surprised that they chose to bring up his nationality like this. Not exactly the kind of thing you'd expect from Gazeta Wyborcza, to be honest.

Another plea for censorship, how sad.

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Aug 14, 11, 15:36 #48

Because he is an immigrant. Polish people have the right to know how immigrants behave, especially immigrants from 3rd world countries.
There is no reason to disguise his ethnic background for the sake of political correctness.

and people have the right to know how Polish immigrants behave in other countries- or it doesn't count because they are white?
typical Polish double standard.

And I have met many unfriendly ticket controllers in Warsaw.

delphiandomineThreads: 42 Posts: 9,954 Joined: Nov 25, 08 ♂ [Suspended]	Aug 14, 11, 15:58 #49
I've never had any problem with a ticket controller in Poland. I haven't even met 1 unfriendly ticket controler. Obviously you haven't been to Poland, then.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Aug 14, 11, 16:42 #50
I haven't met one either. Then again, I don't travel on buses ;) ;) Seriously, I have travelled on trams and buses a few times but found them to be ok. They tend just to sit. They are often stern-faced, yes, but that doesn't bother me at all. Aberdonians (my city's people) are hardly all jolly either on buses.

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Aug 14, 11, 19:20 #51

and people have the right to know how Polish immigrants behave in other countries- or it doesn't count because they are white?
typical Polish double standard.

1. I am not Polish.
2. I don't have a double standard, i think it's always interesting to learn about the behaviour of immigrants, whether white or black.

B.t.w. it's not the first time we hear about a Nigerian in Poland attacking someone for no other reason than being asked a legitimate question (passport, ticket).

If you were a ticket controller yourself, you wouldn't be interested to know this?

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Aug 14, 11, 19:35 #52

1. I am not Polish.
2. I don't have a double standard, i think it's always interesting to learn about the behaviour of immigrants, whether white or black.

B.t.w. it's not the first time we hear about a Nigerian in Poland attacking someone for no other reason than being asked a legitimate question (passport, ticket).

If you were a ticket controller yourself, you wouldn't be interested to know this?

I think that there is probably a lot more to the story than we know. The guy has a different skin colour- he is already a target. In my experience- ticket controllers are a-holes. I already posted how one took money from me- funny that, maybe he should have given me a ticket or at least a receipt- no, just the cash. The fact is there are many people in Poland that don't appreciate people with an obvious different ethnicity. I do ok because I am a pastey faced white girl and I speak Polish.
The Nigerian probably doesn't speak Polish and felt threatened by "Jan Nowak" with a huge attitude. I am not saying it is acceptable but I am willing to bet that the ticket controller was quite aggressive and probably threatened him.

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Aug 15, 11, 16:42 #53

I think that there is probably a lot more to the story than we know. The guy has a different skin colour- he is already a target.

Yeah right, ticket controllers only checking blacks, what country are you talking about? For sure not Poland! :D

In my experience- ticket controllers are a-holes. I already posted how one took money from me- funny that, maybe he should have given me a ticket or at least a receipt- no, just the cash.

I'm sorry to hear this, but this happens very rarely, so you can't generalize this to all ticket controllers. Maybe next time you should buy a ticket, just like that negro should have done.

The fact is there are many people in Poland that don't appreciate people with an obvious different ethnicity. I do ok because I am a pastey faced white girl and I speak Polish.

Maybe this has something to do with the fact that very few Africans live in Poland and yet it's not that rare to see them in the news because of crimes they commit.
And Polish people are not blind. They see what groups started and contributed the most to the riots in England.

The Nigerian probably doesn't speak Polish and felt threatened by "Jan Nowak" with a huge attitude. I am not saying it is acceptable but I am willing to bet that the ticket controller was quite aggressive and probably threatened him.

It's very unlikely that ticket controllers start to attack a passenger for not showing a valid ticket. They would get fired because many witnesses would tell the police that they started.

So it's much more likely that the Nigerian told some BS excuse and that he refused to show his ID card, refused to pay a fine and started the aggression.

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Aug 15, 11, 21:46 #54

It's very unlikely that ticket controllers start to attack a passenger for not showing a valid ticket. They would get fired because many witnesses would tell the police that they started.

Very unlikely?

There's been at least one high profile case in Poznan alone this year.

Yeah right, ticket controllers only checking blacks, what country are you talking about? For sure not Poland! :D

In Poland, it's still quite common for them to get hassle in situations like this, even if everything is fine.

Then again - you don't live here, what would you know?

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Aug 15, 11, 22:57 #55

Very unlikely?

There's been at least one high profile case in Poznan alone this year.

Wow, 1 case in a year, i'm impressed by this strong evidence, well done delphiandomine! :D

In Poland, it's still quite common for them to get hassle in situations like this, even if everything is fine.

Like i wrote before, because of all the witnesses, ticket controllers don't have any chance to discriminate or harrass Africans.

You once again try to suggest Africans never provoke or threathen people, always suggesting that they are poor victims of evil whites. How sad. :D

Then again - you don't live here, what would you know?

I live in Poland, i'm not sure about you though. It sounds like you live far away from Poland and think that modern Poland s like South Africa in the 70's.

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Aug 15, 11, 23:03 #56

Wow, 1 case in a year, i'm impressed by this strong evidence, well done delphiandomine! :D

That's all I'm aware of - I don't pay much attention to the news in other cities. However - that's the one case that was filmed and brought to the attention of the media. Given the crap I see on public transport - it's likely that there are much, much more incidents.

Like i wrote before, because of all the witnesses, ticket controllers don't have any chance to discriminate or harrass Africans.

Hahaha, and you think Poles are so honourable to get involved?

They'll protect their own, but Poles are not exactly keen to help others. Bear in mind that many users of public transport also would be quite happy to see a black guy roughed up.

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Aug 15, 11, 23:24 #57

Hahaha, and you think Poles are so honourable to get involved?

They'll protect their own, but Poles are not exactly keen to help others. Bear in mind that many users of public transport also would be quite happy to see a black guy roughed up.

Maybe, maybe not. I will keep my eyes open and the next time when i'm in public transport and i see a nonwhite, i will watch if the ticket controller is only stopping at him.

Actually i've never seen ticket controllers using violence against anyone. I've seen a few people without ticket, but they all stayed calm. Haven't seen anyone threathening the controller (which confirms that you only get beaten up if you insult them).

grubasThreads: 20 Posts: 1,452 Joined: Feb 1, 10 ♂	Aug 15, 11, 23:33 #58
I haven't met one either. Then again, I don't travel on buses ;) ;) I have met 3 of them.They were very unfriendly when I didn't have a valid ticket and pushed one of them aside when he blocked me from leaving the tram at my stop.Very unfriendly.

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Aug 16, 11, 01:16 #59

very few Africans live in Poland and yet it's not that rare to see them in the news because of crimes they commit.
And Polish people are not blind. They see what groups started and contributed the most to the riots in England.

You are clearly a retard and maybe you only noticed the non-whites in the riots OR polish tv or whatever you watched but I'm here on the ground and the vast majority by a country mile were young, white males and all the channels here carried the images so I'm not talking about one biased source. So don't come on here spouting your so-called "facts" because you are just showing the extent of your ignorance with every passing post.

No one is saying the "evil white man" is to blame, a bunch of morons, not dissimilar to yourself caused untold damage to innocent peoples property, but all you saw from tens of thousands of people rioting was that there were some non-whites among them.

You seriously have a chip on your shoulder that you should get looked at cos it could be a tumour or something and is affecting your reasoning .... And I'm bored with you now.

f stopThreads: 33 Posts: 2,861 Joined: Dec 9, 09 ♀	Aug 16, 11, 01:32 #60
There is a homeless guy in town, sick and addicted, that threatens to spit at anyone getting too close. Even cops leave him alone. hehe assault with a deadly weapon.

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