Israeli army destroys well restored by Polish charity

According to Israelis, the Polish charity had no legal permission from the Israeli administration on the occupied territories to carry out the project.

What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

I've kept out of this discussion up to now because I do not have enough knowledge to participate in an intelligent and informed way. The above quote is extremely disturbing. I thought that one of the tenets of all major religions is that stealing is wrong per se. Joe, please tell me where you got this quote from.

And this is a perfect illustration as to why topics about Israel and Palestine should be banned from this forum. These sort of things can only turn the forum into a battleground.

I've kept out of this discussion up to now because I do not have enough knowledge to participate in an intelligent and informed way. The above quote is extremely disturbing. I thought that one of the tenets of all major religions is that stealing is wrong per se. Joe, please tell me where you got this quote from.

Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile, there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

It's a made up quote. There's nothing like that written in that section of the Talmud.

With respect to robbery — if one stole or robbed30 or [seized] a beautiful woman,31 or [committed] similar offences,32 if [these were perpetrated] by one Cuthean33 against another, [the theft, etc.] must not be kept, and likewise [the theft] of an Israelite by a Cuthean, but that of a Cuthean by an Israelite may be retained'

'For murder, whether of a Cuthean by a Cuthean, or of an Israelite by a Cuthean, punishment is incurred; but of a Cuthean by an Israelite, there is no death penalty'

You do realize that Cutheans don't exist anymore, right?

you both missed out this somewhat crucial piece of information...

You missed an absolutely crucial piece of information:

This Talmudic interpretation has taken the thread away from it's main topic which is the shameful destruction of an ancient water well restored with Polish governmental, and charitable, funds by the occupying forces of the Israeli Army. What possible security reason would warrant such an inhumane act of destruction?

I wonder if whoever built the waling wall got a builders permit. Should really knock it down as an illegal erection.

Wrong, Cuthean is another word for Samaritan and the Samaritans still exist in Palestine and they are discriminated against by the Israeli government too. Their numbers are dwindling and in order to keep themselves around the Samaritans have now began intermarrying with other non-Jewish Palestinians. Interpreters of the Talmud have comonly taken "Cuthean" in the passage discussed above to mean any Gentile. This Talmudic interpretation has taken the thread away from it's main topic which is the shameful destruction of an ancient water well restored with Polish governmental, and charitable, funds by the occupying forces of the Israeli Army. What possible security reason would warrant such an inhumane act of destruction?

The following are a few summarized references to Christians and the Christian faith although not always expressed in exactly that manner. There are eleven names used in the Talmud for non-Talmud followers, by which Christians are meant. Besides Nostrim, from Jesus the Nazarene, Christians are called by all the names used in the Talmud to designate all non-"Jews": Minim, Edom, Abhodan Zarah, Akum. Obhde Elilim, Nokrim, Amme Haarets, Kuthim, Apikorosim, and Goim.

throw the Bible out the window, and replace it with the Talmud.

Thought I was drunk.

Er, I thought that was the first bit of the Bible.

The Old Testament is the Torah

Can anybody explain in what way what the Talmud is

what it says is remotely related to the stated topic of this thread?

Maybe discuss why a Polish charity is deliberately breaking the law of the land where it operates?

And again we're back on the Talmud, and again it is being used to bash Jews. Doesn't anybody have anything on topic to say? Maybe discuss why a Polish charity is deliberately breaking the law of the land where it operates?

If a Israeli charity decides to illegally build somewhere for them to live, what do you think the authorities here will do with that building? Will you then come here and rail against the Polish actions?

Maybe discuss why a Polish charity is deliberately breaking the law of the land where it operates?

The Oslo accords created a Joint Water Management Committee, which grants Israel a veto over water resource and infrastructure in the West Bank. The committee issued a joint declaration in 2001 "for keeping water infrastructure out of the cycle of violence".

The Emergency Water, Sanitation and Hygiene group (EWASH), a multinational consortium of NGOs funded by the European commission, accuses Israel of breaking this declaration, although there is a long list of other obligations under humanitarian law as an occupying power. In the past two years, it has logged the destruction of 100 water, sanitation and hygiene structures, 44 cisterns, 20 toilets and sinks, 28 wells. This year alone, 20 cisterns have been destroyed. Most of this is happening in Area C, which is under full Israeli military control.