Israelis to use Polish ancestry to gain residence rights in the EU

VarsovianThreads: 85 Posts: 531 Joined: Nov 23, 06 ♂	Feb 27, 10, 10:45 #1
Following the in-fighting in the Polish Communist Party in 1968, many mixed Jews (from the losing side) were offered the chance to emigrate to Israel. These people joined an already existing Polish community there. Fast forward to today and a Polish passport offers qualifying Israelis the opportunity to freely live and work in the European Union. There's a certain poignancy to all this.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Mar 1, 10, 19:27 #2
Yeah, it's Tusk and his affiliation with his Jewish brigade. He wore that Jewish hat very well, he looked oh so natural.

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Mar 1, 10, 19:54 #3
Seanus: Yeah, it's Tusk and his affiliation with his Jewish brigade. He wore that Jewish hat very well, he looked oh so natural. You are becoming anti-semit during your old days, Seanie?

RevokeNiceThreads: 21 Posts: 2,459 Joined: Jun 20, 09 ♂	Mar 1, 10, 19:57 #4
Varsovian: Fast forward to today and a Polish passport offers qualifying Israelis the opportunity to freely live and work in the European Union. Me thinks they wont be relocating to Poland.......

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Mar 1, 10, 19:58 #5
I have nothing against Israelis as I'm not in the business of criticising that/those which I don't understand or know. I dislike their international stance though I understand their need for self defence. The yjust get too much support for the wrong reasons. They ignore international law and are way too hardline. Drastic times, drastic measures maybe?

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Mar 1, 10, 20:01 #6

Seanus:

Yeah, it's Tusk and his affiliation with his Jewish brigade. He wore that Jewish hat very well, he looked oh so natural.

Hmm... I was never a great admirer of Tusk but I'm slowly starting to like the man.

I read on countless ocassions that he's a German puppet. Recently there are comments
all over Polish internet portals that he's a Russian agent (you know - the contract with
Gazprom that his government nogotiated, which didn't turn out as beneficial as it was
supposed to be) he's allegedly also an American leash-dog and now he's Jewish (and looks
natural in kippah too).

...I'm starting to think that there is a tiny chance that he is Polish after all ;)

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Mar 1, 10, 20:03 #7

Seanus:

They ignore international law and are way too hardline

Face it Seanie, international law and international institutions give a **** about Israel.
I don't like that entity either but when you accept their right of self-defense, knowing they are in a life-or death struggle, you can't blame them to use EVERY means they have available.

We know we wouldn't act differently...we might have to use all dirty tricks we know sooner than we think too.
The Islamists aren't going away...

KsysiaThreads: 39 Posts: 545 Joined: May 6, 09 ♀	Mar 1, 10, 20:13 #8
Torq: ...I'm starting to think that there is a tiny chance that he is Polish after all ;) No, he's a clone, as in Clone Wars. He's only a career little gold digger, and he wants to be the Prez. He will take head, oh yeah, he will. Faceless ...thing.

delphiandomineThreads: 40 Posts: 9,587 Joined: Nov 25, 08 ♂	Mar 1, 10, 20:21 #9
Ksysia: He's only a career little gold digger, and he wants to be the Prez. Uh, if he wanted to be President, he would've ran for President. Given that he intends to reduce the President to a mere figurehead in Poland, why would he want to become President? He was almost (barring personal scandal) assured victory in the Presidential election if he ran.

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Mar 1, 10, 20:21 #10

Varsovian:

Fast forward to today and a Polish passport offers qualifying Israelis the opportunity to freely live and work in the European Union. There's a certain poignancy to all this.

RevokeNice:

Me thinks they wont be relocating to Poland.......

I got a new cospiracy theory!
Polish anti-semites created a Jewish propaganda in Israel together with Sionists to "inform" the Jewish sociaty in Israel that Poles are generally anti-semitic nd hostile towards Jews. So when Jews use this "trick" to work in EU, they won't get "back" to Poland

What you think about that he?!

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Mar 1, 10, 20:24 #11

Torq:

I read on countless ocassions that he's a German puppet. Recently there are comments
all over Polish internet portals that he's a Russian agent (you know - the contract with
Gazprom that his government nogotiated, which didn't turn out as beneficial as it was
supposed to be) he's allegedly also an American leash-dog and now he's Jewish (and looks
natural in kippah too).

...I'm starting to think that there is a tiny chance that he is Polish after all ;)

He must be Polish!

Mr GrunwaldThreads: 34 Posts: 2,354 Joined: Dec 16, 08 ♂	Mar 1, 10, 20:26 #12
Harry: He must be Polish! Totally agree!

vetalaThreads: - Posts: 512 Joined: Jul 10, 09 ♀	Mar 1, 10, 22:08 #13
I don't like it when people get Polish citizenship only to gain access to a different country. It's insulting, in a way. If they want to come to Poland then they're welcomed but if they want to go to France or Germany then they should try getting a French/German passport instead of feigning patriotism.

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Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Mar 1, 10, 22:13 #14

vetala:

If they want to come to Poland then they're welcomed but if they want to go to France or Germany then they should try getting a French/German passport instead of feigning patriotism.

If Jews can show their ancestors were driven out of Germany by the Nazis they are eligible to a german pass by default.
I think it's good. Those ashkenazi Jews are a smart and quiet bunch. What a contrast to those backward, loudmouth yob arabs flooding Europe left and right.

How is that in Poland?

MatowyThreads: 1 Posts: 519 Joined: Jul 4, 09 ♂	Mar 1, 10, 22:22 #15
Bratwurst Boy: If Jews can show their ancestors were driven out of Germany by the Nazis are eligible to a german pass by default. I think that's stupid. Inheriting free stuff based on what happened to your ancestors is cheap. They should have to go through the proper systems, just like everybody else. This guilt-based gifting for spoiled Israeli's has run its course.

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Mar 1, 10, 22:27 #16
Matowy: Inheriting free stuff based on what happened to your ancestors is cheap. Well, if every Russian who once had a german shephard is eligible I don't see why some smart Jew can't. They are a plus for Germany...high IQ, value education highly, don't annoy anybody, behave, adhere to the rules etc. Gimme an ashkenazi Jew for all those arabs and turks flooding our streets!

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Mar 1, 10, 22:39 #17

Bratwurst Boy:

Well, if every Russian who once had a german shephard is eligible I don't see why some smart Jew can't.

They are a plus for Germany...high IQ, value education highly, don't annoy anybody, behave, adhere to the rules etc.

Gimme an ashkenazi Jew for all those arabs and turks flooding our streets!

Your premise is illogical. You're judging the matter based on preference, not on what's correct. The matter is not whether having Jews as citizens is preferable to Arabs or Turks, the matter is to do with pissing away citizenships to every spoiled Israeli who thinks that they're entitled to citizenship without ever having lived, worked or payed taxes in that country. Having unpleasant Arab or Turk citizens is another matter entirely, one that I don't know enough, nor care, about to discuss.

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Mar 1, 10, 23:41 #18
Matowy: You're judging the matter based on preference, I'm thinking entirely about if something is good for my country or not, blame me for that. ;) And in the Ashkenazi case it's advantageous to Germany to have them back again....especially as the future of Israel is still in the ropes!

MatowyThreads: 1 Posts: 519 Joined: Jul 4, 09 ♂	Mar 1, 10, 23:46 #19
Bratwurst Boy: especially as the future of Israel is still in the ropes! ... what? No it isn't. Can you back that up with anything? Preferably an external source, as your own ramblings tend to be hysterical and rely far too much on fantasies and hyperbole.

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Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Mar 1, 10, 23:59 #20

Matowy:

... what? No it isn't. Can you back that up with anything? Preferably an external source, as your own ramblings tend to be hysterical and rely far too much on fantasies and hyperbole.

Erm....can you please **** off and ignore me you stupid ass? I don't want to bother you with all my boring ramblings...you muslim lover! Studied the Koran already! Loser! F'ucked a baby girl today already as your prophet told you to?

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Mar 8, 10, 23:59 #21

Bratwurst Boy:

Face it Seanie, international law and international institutions give a **** about Israel.
I don't like that entity either but when you accept their right of self-defense, knowing they are in a life-or death struggle, you can't blame them to use EVERY means they have available.

I have a solution to Middle East problems...Creation of Israel the fault of Hitler, correct?...Jews dumped on Arabs...I say this: Give Palestine back to Arabs and move all Jews back to Germany!...Expel the Turks: International community will not object...This makes room for the Jews back in Hamburg, Berlin, Dusseldorf...It will be colder than Palestine, yes, but they will adjust...And think: Germany will get many new financial experts, makers of adult films, a variety of rabbis and teachers, and real estate developers to help develop virgin German soil...There will be a new explosion of culture, finance and religious knowledge!...Not to mention delicatessens, and perhaps felafel restaurants...Also this: Israeli sailors can be integrated into the German Navy since they already have submarines which you gave them, and they know your equipment.

Amanda91Threads: 3 Posts: 336 Joined: May 27, 07 ♀	Mar 9, 10, 00:03 #22
joepilsudski: and move all Jews back to Germany! how about moving them also to Poland?. Before the WWII, there were many Jews in Poland too.

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Edited by: skysoulmate Mar 9, 10, 02:04 #23

Bratwurst Boy:

Face it Seanie, international law and international institutions give a **** about Israel.
I don't like that entity either but when you accept their right of self-defense, knowing they are in a life-or death struggle, you can't blame them to use EVERY means they have available.

We know we wouldn't act differently...we might have to use all dirty tricks we know sooner than we think too.
The Islamists aren't going away...

Very well put and I agree 100% (except I DO like that entity)

RonWestThreads: 3 Posts: 165 Joined: Jan 6, 10 ♂	Mar 9, 10, 07:15 #24
Bratwurst Boy: Gimme an ashkenazi Jew for all those arabs and turks flooding our streets! ahhhhhaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!! I told you so!!!!!!

yehudiThreads: 1 Posts: 816 Joined: Jul 27, 08 ♂	Mar 9, 10, 17:35 #25
Russian Christians with a Jewish grandfather use that to get Israeli citizenship. And now you tell me that Israelis are using family connections to get EU citizenship. Let's eliminate the middle man: Have the Russians go straight to Europe and leave us out of it.

aphrodisiacThreads: 19 Posts: 3,907 Joined: Apr 15, 09 ♀	Mar 9, 10, 17:39 #26
Torq: ...I'm starting to think that there is a tiny chance that he is Polish after all ;) he, he.....paranoia at its best:). I was called a Polonophobic Jew 2 days ago on this board, so I am not surprised;)

banderiasThreads: 2 Posts: 29 Joined: Feb 10, 10 ♂	Mar 9, 10, 17:57 #27
i think their main reason to escape from military service and find a place to live in peace. in israel the man needs to go military service 3 years and woman also needs 15 mounts.

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Mar 10, 10, 11:20 #28

banderias:

i think their main reason to escape from military service and find a place to live in peace.

in israel the man needs to go military service 3 years and woman also needs 15 mounts.

Most Israelis who look for EU citizenship already finished their service in the army. The citizenship gives them opportunities to go to university in Europe. You'll be getting the ones that didn't get into the universities here.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Mar 10, 10, 16:47 #29
BB is right. There is no concept of proportionality used by them. Ancestry is often invoked too late in the day. Imagine if courts entertained old property claims, what a can of worms that would open. Like any people, sth is used when it suits them.

aphrodisiacThreads: 19 Posts: 3,907 Joined: Apr 15, 09 ♀	Edited by: aphrodisiac Mar 10, 10, 16:54 #30
Seanus: Like any people, sth is used when it suits them. that is just human nature. It is called taking advantage of opportunities:)

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