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Edited by: Crow  Apr 12, 10, 23:29    #1
just an opinion

Lech Kaczynski Assassinated



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 Apr 12, 10, 23:36    #2
Is that you Crow?


lol
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 Apr 12, 10, 23:40    #3
Nope.

That guy is full of sh*t. Illuminati is a known conspiracy mith, so are the secret activities of Freemasons. and JFK... omg. The Conspiracy/Paranoia Trap FTW.
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 Apr 12, 10, 23:40    #4
Meet me at the docks at midnight, the pickles have arms...I repeat, the pickles have arms...
AdamKadmon  Apr 12, 10, 23:41    #5
Conspiracy theorist of a lower order of magnitude.
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 Apr 12, 10, 23:41    #6
another opinion >>>

Polish President assassinated.

Sat Apr 10, 2010, 4:14 PM
http://dolldivine.deviantart.com/journal/31498918/

The day before the incident, the Polish government announced that it would be weakening the Polish currency (the Zloty). This would help the Polish people, but wouldn't make the European Union too happy. They were on their way to make amends with Russia, another move that the EU wouldn't be happy about.

Poland has been doing relatively well in this depression, partly because they haven't been printing money like crazy. They went through hyperinflation recently (I lived through it), and have laws in place against reckless "stimulus". Also, it was only because they weren't using the Euro, but had their own currency, that they were able to maintain this control.. another thing the EU hates! They were a shining example of why countries must maintain their sovereignty, and you knew that was too good to be true.

one more opinion >>>

Polish Delegation Wiped Out - Assassination or Accident?

April 10th, 2010
http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/polish-delegation-wiped-out_0410 2010

In what Russian officials are describing as an accident, the President of Poland, his wife, the chief of the Polish army and the governor of their central bank have all been killed in a plane crash in Western Russia.

The official reports suggest the accident occurred as a result of pilot error, but because this was the head of state of Poland, the Russians are taking the accident seriously

Let’s be clear: Vladimir Putin, former officer of the KGB, former President of Russia and current Prime Minister was not “put in charge” of the investigation. If Mr. Putin is involved, he put himself in charge.

For observers who do not normally follow events in eastern Europe and Russia, it is important to note that there has been a level of veiled hostility between Russia’s former President and Poland. Poland was to be one of the eastern European hosts of the US missile defense shield, a military action condemned by Russia and Mr. Putin.


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Edited by: joepilsudski  Apr 13, 10, 00:54    #7
Crow:
Polish Delegation Wiped Out - Assassination or Accident?

April 10th, 2010
[url]http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/polish-delegation-wiped-out _0410 2010[/url]




This particular article raises intelligent questions.

Truthfully, we have no clear picture of whatever forces may have been behind this...Possibly, it was just an accident.

But coming on the heels of the Moscow Metro bombing, some other activities in Dagestan, and various other 'terror threats' being given publicity lately, one must wonder.

As for Putin, was the Metro attack perpetrated by some 'third force' to humiliate him?...And now this, basically a memorial and something of a reconciliation mission by the Polish leadership, supported by Putin & Medvedev, being wiped out on Russian soil, under Putin's nose.

Three possibilities:
1) Tragic accident
2) Murder arranged by Putin
3) 'Third force' declares war on Putin, and rids itself of 'out of step' Polish leadership...This would be in conjunction with Metro attack...NWO elements, including Hazari, have no love for Slavs of any kind...Not a good result in Ukraine elections for NWO crowd either.
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 Apr 13, 10, 00:59    #8
Interesting theory...but just total bollox....sorry if its a bit boring , but the aircraft flew too low and hit the ground...thats it really...
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Edited by: Crow  Apr 13, 10, 01:23    #9
joepilsudski:
This particular article raises intelligent questions.

i don`t promote any particular idea and opinion. i am just transparent and, i myself actually have some ideas

wildrover:
the aircraft flew too low and hit the ground...thats it really...

its definitely one of possibilities


see this comment. Yet, another opinion >>>

Did The Global Elite Assassinate Poland President Lech Kaczynski?

April 12, 2010
http://stevenjohnhibbs.wordpress.com/2010/04/12/did-the-global-elite-a ssassinate-poland-president-lech-kaczynski/

Damian Thompson, writing for the Daily Telegraph, says there will be plenty of conspiracy theories floating around cyberspace in response to the death of Polish president Lech Kaczynski and a large number of Polish VIPs in a plane crash last week.

“One of the nastier consequences of international disasters is that conspiracy theorists rush to judgment – and I do mean rush,” writes Thompson. “The fact that the president and so many of the Polish elite were on a visit to Russia will feature prominently in the fantastic stories being cooked up in cyberspace right now. And I can say with confidence that they are being cooked up, because Poland, like most East European countries, is obsessed with conspiracies. Russians, Jews, Americans, Freemasons – they will all be blamed. Some stories will be more credible than others.’


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Edited by: Crow  Apr 13, 10, 01:47    #10
Kaczynski could be even alive

yes, some people would maybe even say that Kaczynski could be still alive, that he maybe even smile while looking his own funeral on TV. Its usual idea when happens something like that what happened on 4/10 or when some important person suddenly die
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 Apr 13, 10, 01:51    #11
Crow:
yes, some people would maybe even say that Kaczynski could be still live

Maybe he's having plastic surgery done to re-run for President.
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 Apr 13, 10, 02:27    #12
its been said saddam hussein was meant switch trade in dollars to euros which would support the zloty/euro theory

also what of the notion that the Tu-157 has no mechanical issues and its history of crashes is a russain employed mass assassination "accident"?
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 Apr 13, 10, 05:32    #13
Crow:
Kaczynski could be even alive


So is Elvis. You can't be serious.
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 Apr 13, 10, 07:35    #14
Gordons alive!!!!
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 Apr 13, 10, 08:53    #15
If you want the bees to come, put out the honey. And what better honey for top Polish brass than Katyn memorial with Putin himself in attendance. Make no mistake, being elite trained former lietenant colonel of KGB, Putin was well-schooled in the Art of War.
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 Apr 13, 10, 08:56    #16
Olga:
If you want the bees to come, put out the honey. And what better honey for top Polish brass than Katyn memorial with Putin himself in attendance. Make no mistake, being elite trained former lietenant colonel of KGB, Putin was well-schooled in the Art of War.

With all due respect, I think this implication is nonsense.
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 Apr 13, 10, 09:07    #17
What better place for Putin to do it than on Russian soil where already Polish blood so heavily spilled? Control of investigation, control of access to crime scene, control of media and release of information. And, of course, control of media in Russia is unheard of (sarcasm). Now only have to be a good actor, make sure you get photographed embracing Tusk and voilà! You are hero to Poland and the world. Polska, do not be so easily deceived...you did not survive Hitler and Stalin for THIS.
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 Apr 13, 10, 09:32    #18
So what about the fog then...? Just a coincidence , or have the Russians found a way to control the weather......

Perhaps they were controling the pilot....?

I am sure there are Poles who would love the KGB to be involved in order to carry on this Poland is terrible , but its not our fault myth , but its simply not true....

The aircraft was trying to land in bad weather and hit the ground its nothing more than that.....

Mistakes were made that brought about this disaster...and i am sorry , but they were all Polish mistakes...
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Edited by: Filios1  Apr 13, 10, 09:37    #19
wildrover:
Poland is terrible , but its not our fault myth


WW2 is a myth?

I hope you realize what this country has had to go through, and how recently it was. Many of the older generation is paranoid, and rightly so. They have been backstabbed so many times before, do you blame them? You aren't Polish, and you havn't lived there long enough to realize Polish mentality. You westerners always just generalize and like to form a big picture.. A Russian would understand a Pole much easier than a Brit or American.

Kaczynski was not formally invited to Katyn ceremony in first group with Tusk. Putin invited him seperately, with a different party. The weather gets bad, and Kaczynski gets a bit weary, perhaps even paranoid of political implications of him being late, or having to divert, so he puts pressure on the pilot. There is also fear of Putin, and the fact that Kaczynski was invited seperately...
Putin now heads the team of investigators. If you are a 65 year old man who has lived through Soviet times, and have seen it all. What would you conclude?
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 Apr 13, 10, 09:45    #20
Really? You "know" this how? Even Polish investigatos have not yet had access to the flight data. Why is only Russia talking so loud? I suggest you maybe watch something other than FOX news.
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 Apr 13, 10, 09:47    #21
more like fog of war

olga you forget control of polish officials

would an overeaction from poland be worth the truth?

who would Kaczynski blame?

already accounts are mistaken: final approach/fourth try + russian speaking/or not + clipping radio beacon/ or no? airport was closed/ or no? i can go on about discrepencies of reports.
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 Apr 13, 10, 09:47    #22
Sorry, my previous message was addressing Filios1...
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 Apr 13, 10, 09:54    #23
Olga:
What better place for Putin to do it than on Russian soil


So, is Mr Putin God and devil in one person? How easy to explain everything!

I'm afraid it's a good time for you to visit your doctor... Otherwise your next step will be to blame him and Russian KGB for the last several earthquakes and global warming…
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 Apr 13, 10, 09:55    #24
Filios1:
I hope you realize what this country has had to go through,


Of course i understand Poland has suffered terribly in the past , and suffered at the hands of the Russians , but to carry on this distrust of the Russians and try to blame them for something that is clearly a Polish mistake does not do anyone any good....

If there is the slightest chance the Russians were involved in this crash i will condem them as loud as anyone else , but there is absolutly no evidence of anything other than a tragic accident caused by human error....
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 Apr 13, 10, 09:56    #25
also i meant Tu-154 after some 28 accidents only a few were mechanical difficulty; how many had Putin at the scene?
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 Apr 13, 10, 09:59    #26
Czar, no Poland is not stupid to risk WWIII over Kaczynski. What I mean is how the Western media just swallows everything as gospel from the side who would have most to hide. This "truth" coming from a murderer of the likes of Politkovskaya, Litvinenko (no saint, I know) etc. etc. Since when did Putin become such an advocate for the truth, when journalists whose job it is end up with bullets in their heads? I am just in disbelief how so soon after the fact, it was swallowed hook, line, and sinker by every Western media outlet.
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Edited by: Crow  Apr 13, 10, 10:02    #27
Havok:
So is Elvis

excellent! Good example. i heard that there are people who believe that Elvis is alive (was still alive after he died `officially`)

or take in consideration rumors about singer Michael Jackson or about Serbian Arkan.

richasis:
Maybe he's having plastic surgery done to re-run for President.

well, who knows. Some would maybe conclude that Kaczynski himself organized all that. Maybe it wasn`t real Kaczynski in the plane or maybe Bush isn`t Bush but Busha and maybe Obama isn`t Obama but Oba Ma
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 Apr 13, 10, 10:05    #28
wildrover:
If there is the slightest chance the Russians were involved in this crash i will condem them as loud as anyone else , but there is absolutly no evidence of anything other than a tragic accident caused by human error....


Of course there is no independent evidence--have you not noticed which side is exclusively "updating" the media? And smearing nothing but the pilot. Why? Because dead men can't talk (KGB motto).
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Edited by: MareGaea  Apr 13, 10, 10:08    #29
Crow:
Elvis is alive


Actually he is. I saw him the other day when the Guards arrested him for shoplifting at Penneys. It seems like he's doing not so well lately.

Would it be fair to say that conspiracy-theories are an unseperable part of Polish folklore?

>^..^<

M-G (seems so)
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 Apr 13, 10, 10:09    #30
Jed:
So, is Mr Putin God and devil in one person? How easy to explain everything!


Jed, refrain from tantrum--you sound like evangelical...


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