Is Jarosław Kaczyński the new Lech Wałęsa?

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Jul 26, 10, 23:16 #1

Lately the surviving Kaczyński twin seems to be taking over Lech Wałęsa's habit of saying things that don't make any rational or logical sense whatever.

Famously, in reference to people who refer to the Smolensk disaster as 'zbrodnia' (crime, murder) he said (rough translation): "It may not meet the legal definition of zbrodnia, but it fits the colloquial meaning."

Does anyone else have any idea what (if anything) that was supposed to mean?

I asked a few Poles (all very well educated) what that was supposed to mean and none of them had a clue. I'm reminded of "Jestem za a nawet przeciw" (I'm so in favor of it I'm even against it".

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Jul 27, 10, 08:56 #2

It's quite obvious what he means and any intelligent person can see that. I'll give you a clue. I predicted Nigel Farage would have his food poisoned and I was wrong. However, I was just looking at a practicality, any way at which he could be harmed. As it turned out, his airplane mysteriously crashed. This despite a VERY experienced pilot at the helm. It's all too clear how it works and the sentiment, therefore, should be clear too.

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Jul 27, 10, 09:46 #3

Seanus:

It's quite obvious what he means and any intelligent person can see that.

Well if he's suggesting foul play then that would be zbrodnia in the legal sense. So we're back to him not making any sense.

My best guess is that he's trying to stoke his base by rumblings about foul deeds that only he can make right and/or working off some personal guilt feelings since IIRC the alternate Katyn ceremony was at least partly his idea.

For the record for the nth time: I'm open to the idea that foul play was involved but have been unimpressed with the 'evidence' claimed so far. A person would have to be an idiot or in deep denial to believe the official 9/11 story, but if foul play was involved in Smolensk it was a lot more subtle and better carried out.

Regarding Farage, that's a far more likely scenario (is there any evidence beyond convenience?) I absolutely assume Paul Wellstone and David Kelly (among others) were deep sixed.

BenjaminpmThreads: 7 Posts: 20 Joined: Jan 24, 10 ♂	Jul 27, 10, 10:22 #4
mafketis: A person would have to be an idiot or in deep denial to believe the official 9/11 story And to think... I had had such a bright start to my WWA day... but now I am being told I am an idiot. Thank you very much Mafketis for taking the wind out of my sails... ;)

hague1cmaeronThreads: 21 Posts: 1,652 Joined: Mar 30, 10 ♂	Edited by: hague1cmaeron Jul 27, 10, 10:44 #5
He is just a well meaning though stupid peasant with a chip on his shoulder. Don't even try to understand him he is becoming an increasingly bitter and twisted individual, he sees his own interest as the national interest. He thinks that he and Poland is one and the same, if that were the case i would not bother going to Poland.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Jul 27, 10, 12:18 #6
True enough, mafketis. It's by no means as clear when it comes to Smoleńsk. I just feel that they didn't guide them in well enough but I felt that the Poles dug their own hole. They were smug and cocky and they told ATC 'watch how real pilots do it'. We saw, alright ;) Sth like debestka (we are the best) was said. LOL, not now.

greenlulu7Threads: - Posts: 14 Joined: Jul 26, 10 ♀	Edited by: Moderator Jul 27, 10, 12:49 #7
most Poles living in Poland are ashamed because of opinions and theories told by Kaczynski. Everybody knows what did he mean, he is just anti-Russia, anti-Germany, anti...anti everything. So maybe the best solution is just not listen to him ;]

IronsideThreads: 59 Posts: 6,786 Joined: Feb 26, 09 ♂	Jul 27, 10, 13:48 #8
greenlulu7: most Poles living in Poland are ashamed because of opinions and theories told by Kaczynski. why? Are hey timid, brainless, complex ridden serfs ?

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