Komorowski, acting president, is a shower!

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Apr 13, 10, 15:07 #1

(I recommend you sign up to New Poland Express e-zine - it does a good weekly round-up of Polish news in English)

Anyway, in last Friday's edition I had a letter published about the workings of Polish democracy.

In the UK you can meet your MP to discuss local matters. For example, my Polish girlfriend had visa problems in the 80s and my MP sorted it even though she was Labour and I am not.

So, after the Polish Post Office stopped supplying a delivery service in my neck of the woods I emailed my poseł - K jak Komorowski. No answer. I emailed again - no answer.

This is the plonker who, 24 hours later, was acting President and will be Platforma's shoe-in as the next President.

I feel like running for President myself!!

asikThreads: 2 Posts: 547 Joined: Feb 17, 09 ♀	Apr 13, 10, 15:15 #2
Varsovian: I feel like running for President myself!! Poles are in mouring for a week!! shut your mouth up!please, moron!!

VarsovianThreads: 91 Posts: 568 Joined: Nov 23, 06 ♂	Apr 13, 10, 15:26 #3
go see a taxidermist

delphiandomineThreads: 42 Posts: 9,954 Joined: Nov 25, 08 ♂ [Suspended]	Apr 13, 10, 15:38 #4
Just one thing : Poland has had 19 years of real democracy. The UK has had much, much longer. You can't compare the well oiled, efficient, time tested machinery of the UK State versus an emerging democracy in Poland - it's just not comparable.

VarsovianThreads: 91 Posts: 568 Joined: Nov 23, 06 ♂	Apr 13, 10, 16:18 #5
The key thing about Polish democracy is that it is designed so that members of parliament are loyal to their party leader - not to the people who elect them. Hence, once elected they shun the people!

Mr GrunwaldThreads: 34 Posts: 2,358 Joined: Dec 16, 08 ♂	Apr 13, 10, 16:22 #6
Varsovian: not to the people who elect them. Hence, once elected they shun the people! and in that way we don't need to worry about populist members of the parliament right? :)

jonniThreads: 26 Posts: 4,181 Joined: Nov 27, 07 ♂	Edited by: jonni Apr 13, 10, 16:27 #7
delphiandomine: You can't compare the well oiled, efficient, time tested machinery of the UK State versus an emerging democracy in Poland - it's just not comparable. That's true. In Warsaw it's often better to deal with people on the Rada Gminy. They rely on far fewer votes to win or lose so they are slowly starting to realise that they have to be seen to be useful.

VarsovianThreads: 91 Posts: 568 Joined: Nov 23, 06 ♂	Apr 13, 10, 16:29 #8
Mind you, at least Poles aren't as thick as Brits. Gordon brown leads them to disaster and is as dense as hell and the Brits are still wondering about whether to re-elect him. Brits are sick!!

jonniThreads: 26 Posts: 4,181 Joined: Nov 27, 07 ♂	Apr 13, 10, 16:35 #9
Varsovian: wondering about whether to re-elect him. Betty Boothroyd and Tony Benn are a bit too old now, David Lammy is too young and Mo Mowlem is too dead. And that Cameron is just a frightening thought who probably thinks that Leeds and Manchester are villages somewhere in Shropshire. I quite like Radosław Sikorski, but Poland could do a lot worse than Komorowski.

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Apr 13, 10, 16:38 #10
jonni: Leeds and Manchester are villages somewhere in Shropshire. Aren't they?

guzzlerThreads: 6 Posts: 165 Joined: Mar 28, 10 ♂	Apr 13, 10, 19:19 #11
Varsovian: The key thing about Polish democracy is that it is designed so that members of parliament are loyal to their party leader - not to the people who elect them. Hence, once elected they shun the people! All I can say to you Varsovian is what I say to none Brits over here who knock Britain if you don't like it leave.

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Apr 13, 10, 19:28 #12

Komorowski removed some secret documents pertaining to the past and he did it on Saturday. PO politicians were afraid that they would be leaked as PiS and Lech would have uncovered them in due course. It's a bit like 9/11 where everything was removed from WTC 7 and conveniently misplaced as they had the potential to indict.

Also, the Russians confiscated the cameras of Polish journalists but let Russian ones do their work. That's a bit like what the FBI did on 9/11, steal all the relevant cameras.

Komorowski is likely a NWO goon who has a shady past.

AdamKadmon	Apr 13, 10, 20:55 #13
Seanus It is an empty and groundless speculation, totally without basis, but also contrary to all common sense. Am I wrong?

doctorgrenadesThreads: - Posts: 27 Joined: Apr 13, 10 ♂	Apr 16, 10, 01:12 #14
Varsovian: Brits are sick!![[quote=Varsovian]Mind you, at least Poles aren't as thick as Brits. Gordon brown leads them to disaster and is as dense as hell and the Brits are still wondering about whether to re-elect him. Brits are sick!! at least hes still alive

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Edited by: richasis Apr 16, 10, 02:11 #15

doctorgrenades:

at least hes still alive

Brown sold off more than half the country’s gold reserves at the bottom of the market.
There's yet the other half to be sold - he'll be around at least until the next major dip.

delphiandomine:

You can't compare the well oiled, efficient, time tested machinery of the UK State versus an emerging democracy in Poland - it's just not comparable.

On 7 May 1999 the government announced in advance that it would sell 415 tonnes of gold. This public announcement seemed to ensure that the UK would achieve the lowest possible price rather than the highest. The first auction of 25 tonnes in July was $26 per oz lower than the price at the time of the announcement...

Nice One, Britain... BTW, we Yanks are no better. ;)

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Apr 16, 10, 10:58 #16

Seanus:

Also, the Russians confiscated the cameras of Polish journalists but let Russian ones do their work. That's a bit like what the FBI did on 9/11, steal all the relevant cameras.

Glad to see someone with their thinking cap on ;-) That's in order to feed the propaganda machine which we see is in full throttle, judging by the all the premature one-sided announcements--to drown everyone else out.

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Apr 16, 10, 15:55 #17

No, Adam, you'd be wrong. Although I need far more persuading to be swayed from the official version, I'm not going to make the same mistake as I did before by believing the 9/11 stories.

Olga, you are right to be sceptical but stick to your credible sources and you'll be fine. I think Smolensk 10/04 will be to you what 9/11 was to me. Namely, a kind of investigative project/research piece. I know how to get all sorts of info based on what I picked up at uni. I did a vocational/generic course before the academic one and it taught me to be resourceful.

Still, a word of caution for you. Cover any brick walls near you with pillows of soft material as you'll be beating your head against them trying to convince some people. Denial is hard to overcome. Good luck, lassie!

PibwlThreads: - Posts: 69 Joined: Feb 18, 10 ♂	Apr 16, 10, 16:38 #18
Seanus: Komorowski removed some secret documents pertaining to the past and he did it on Saturday. PO politicians were afraid that they would be leaked as PiS and Lech would have uncovered them in due course. It's a bit like 9/11 where everything was removed from WTC 7 and conveniently misplaced as they had the potential to indict. ...And are you serious?? :-O

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Apr 16, 10, 17:29 #19
About what, the removal? Yes, dead straight! My wife told me as she was watching the news.

kondziorThreads: 2 Posts: 441 Joined: Oct 16, 09 ♂	Apr 16, 10, 18:18 #20
LEPER FOR PRESIDET!!!

nogardthegreatThreads: 1 Posts: 25 Joined: Dec 23, 07 ♂	Apr 16, 10, 18:28 #21
Varsovian: The key thing about Polish democracy is that it is designed so that members of parliament are loyal to their party leader - not to the people who elect them. Hence, once elected they shun the people! Same thing in the USA, and if I had to guess, every other "democracy" in the world...

kondziorThreads: 2 Posts: 441 Joined: Oct 16, 09 ♂	Apr 16, 10, 18:30 #22
GIERTYCH FOR PRESIDENT!!!!

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Apr 16, 10, 18:46 #23
Giertych for the role of Frankenstein maybe. On a more serious note, what can Komorowski bring to the table? I'm looking for concrete actions here. What reforms can he instigate? What kind of persona do you feel, as Poles, that he projects onto the international stage? Is he up to the task?

PibwlThreads: - Posts: 69 Joined: Feb 18, 10 ♂	Apr 16, 10, 20:30 #24
Seanus: About what, the removal? Yes, dead straight! My wife told me as she was watching the news What documents?

nauczyciel	Apr 16, 10, 22:09 #25
asik: Poles are in mouring for a week!! shut your mouth up!please, moron!! oh really?? here where I live it is business as usual. all shops are open, drunks walking around, nobody stopping for ppl in a zebra... it seems that nobody gives a schit

jonniThreads: 26 Posts: 4,181 Joined: Nov 27, 07 ♂	Apr 16, 10, 22:16 #26
Same here. Even last weekend in the buildings round my home people were taking advantage of a day of work by going to the pub and even having parties. I suppose different people react to things in different ways.

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Edited by: hague1cmaeron Apr 17, 10, 04:03 #27

delphiandomine:

You can't compare the well oiled, efficient, time tested machinery of the

You have got to be joking right?

Varsovian:

Mind you, at least Poles aren't as thick as Brits.

Gordon brown leads them to disaster and is as dense as hell and the Brits are still wondering about whether to re-elect him.

Brits are sick!!

Indeed, Focking unbelievable. If he gets in again it is going to be a focking disaster.

OlgaThreads: 2 Posts: 380 Joined: Apr 12, 10 ♀	Apr 17, 10, 04:38 #28
Seanus: Cover any brick walls near you with pillows of soft material as you'll be beating your head against them trying to convince some people. Yeah, no sht. What does it take around here--walking on water? Ruskies chorus in unison*, "Da!!!"

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Edited by: richasis Apr 17, 10, 05:55 #29

nogardthegreat:

Varsovian:
The key thing about Polish democracy is that it is designed so that members of parliament are loyal to their party leader - not to the people who elect them. Hence, once elected they shun the people!

Same thing in the USA, and if I had to guess, every other "democracy" in the world...

In 'American Democracy', Politicians are Loyal to their Puppet-Masters with the Purse Strings. Amerikan democracy is the best that money can buy.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Apr 17, 10, 10:51 #30
Pibwl, she told me to tell you that they pertain to the days of communism and that you would understand the nature of 'tajny' documents. As for Komorowski, he seems to be like a wet blouse. What can this 'man' do for Poland?

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