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Kongres Nowej Prawicy - new political party in Poland


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henchinThreads: 1
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 Jul 12, 11, 23:30    #1
I encourage to read the political program of Kongres Nowej Prawicy, a new Janusz Korwin-Mikke's party. Economic freedom, low taxes, liquidation of useless public offices and positions in effect of tax low simplification. PO promised an economic miracle in Poland but taxes are higher than four years ago and public debt is still growing. I appeal to you not to waste your voice in next election and vote Nowa Prawica. It's high time not to choose bigger or smaller evil. It's time to choose according to your conscience, choose that what is good for Poland.

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RobertLeeThreads: 12
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 Jul 12, 11, 23:42    #2
Unfortunately Poles have the American syndrom of choosing between two possiblities (while there are many in fact) - there may be many parties or presidential candidates but most will just consider the two options that have the highest support according to media. Even if they don't like either of them, they will vote for the "lesser evil", instead of considering another option. The older generation is particularly guilty of this - I noticed that Korwin-Mikke has quite a support among the youth. Maybe finally he will be successfull, as like you said, people are disappointed with PO and PIS and SLD.
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 Jul 13, 11, 00:01    #3
henchin:
a new Janusz Korwin-Mikke's party.


Another new one? He's going through parties like they're going to be banned again soon.

henchin:
Economic freedom, low taxes, liquidation of useless public offices and positions in effect of tax low simplification. PO promised an economic miracle in Poland but taxes are higher than four years ago and public debt is still growing. I appeal to you not to waste your voice in next election and vote Nowa Prawica. It's high time not to choose bigger or smaller evil. It's time to choose according to your conscience, choose that what is good for Poland.


Same old, same old. Korwin-Mikke's been saying the same thing since 1989 and has never won a seat.

RobertLee:
Unfortunately Poles have the American syndrom of choosing between two possiblities (while there are many in fact) - there may be many parties or presidential candidates but most will just consider the two options that have the highest support according to media. Even if they don't like either of them, they will vote for the "lesser evil", instead of considering another option. The older generation is particularly guilty of this - I noticed that Korwin-Mikke has quite a support among the youth. Maybe finally he will be successfull, as like you said, people are disappointed with PO and PIS and SLD.


I'm enjoying the fact that you say "two possibilities" - then go on to mention 3 possibilities.

Incidentally, your post is utter nonsense. If you look back at the elections since 1991 - the only time that an election has been a true two-party race was in 2007. There's a clear division between post-Communist and post-Solidarity parties, this is true - but there are many parties who come under either side.

Shall we go over the election results, just so you don't bother to argue with me? All results based on the 460-member Sejm, and ignoring the guaranteed seats for the German minority.

1991 - 29 parties won seats - with the highest percentage being a miserable 13.5% of seats going to the Democratic Union.
1993 - 6 parties won seats - with the highest percentage being 37% to the SLD.
1997 - 5 parties won seats - with the highest percentage being 33% to AWS.
2001 - 6 parties won seats - with the highest percentage being 41% to the SLD. The other parties ranged from 12.7% to 7.9%.
2005 - 6 parties won seats - percentages ranged from 27% for PiS to 7% for the PSL.
2007 - 4 parties won seats - the only "two party" free election in modern times - resulted in 41% for PO and 32% for PiS.

Poland is notable for the fact that the strongest parties often don't enjoy huge support in percentage terms - in fact, it's only in the last 4 years that anything approaching a two-party system has emerged. If PiS implode as expected, things will rapidly return to the old way of things - especially with only PO and the SLD resembling anything like a modern European political party (with discipline, et al).



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