Krystian Legierski - First openly gay Polish elected official

convexThreads: 46 Posts: 7,185 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Dec 9, 10, 15:42 #1
For all you John Godson fans out there, lets up the ante a bit. Here's the first openly gay Polish elected official, he's a Warsaw city councilman...and for bonus points, he's half black. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krystian_Legierski

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Dec 9, 10, 16:15 #2
He is also a very nice bloke (I've known him for years, since before Le Madame).

ZedThreads: - Posts: 304 Joined: May 25, 10 ♂	Dec 9, 10, 16:19 #3
He's a good guy indeed.

paulinskaThreads: 6 Posts: 344 Joined: May 19, 10 ♂	Edited by: paulinska Dec 9, 10, 16:24 #4
Is he Polish? Tick, Competent? Tick. Sexuality and Race shouldn't come into play at all! That said, i wonder how Jarnowa feels about this one - afterall he's gay and therefore won't affect his chances of marrying a Polish woman. Good luck Krystian!

convexThreads: 46 Posts: 7,185 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Edited by: convex Dec 9, 10, 16:31 #5
paulinska: Is he Polish? Tick, Competent? Tick. Did his socialist Polish constituents elect him? Tick. I don't agree with his political platform, but the people he's representing do, that should be all that matters as far as democratically elected representatives go.

zetigrekThreads: 59 Posts: 2,709 Joined: May 20, 10 ♂	Dec 9, 10, 16:56 #6
What about Robert Biedroń?

convexThreads: 46 Posts: 7,185 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Dec 9, 10, 16:58 #7
zetigrek: What about Robert Biedroń? I don't think he was ever elected for anything.

1jolaThreads: 33 Posts: 2,737 Joined: Sep 23, 08 ♂	Dec 9, 10, 17:13 #8
All we need now is a transvestite elected. It was hardly news in Warsaw but I'm sure it's hugely important here on PF.

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Edited by: Sokrates Dec 9, 10, 17:13 #9

convex:

For all you John Godson fans out there, lets up the ante a bit. Here's the first openly gay Polish elected official, he's a Warsaw city councilman...and for bonus points, he's half black.

He's gay because he's black, all black people are gay and have AIDS.

Anyway whats the big deal? I'm still a tad confused why a random nigga or a fag in the politics make the headlines, they're people too, as long as they're not some sort of political faction based on skin colour or brownie dipping preferations i'm not troubled at all.

I'm against blacks and gays in polish politics as coherent groups, random individuals are not an issue, let em be.

1jola:

All we need now is a transvestite elected.

Now that would be an issue.

paulinska:

Sexuality and Race shouldn't come into play at all!

At some point they should, what you are influences how you govern.

Personally i view blacks as a race as inferiors who can't govern themselves or create a civilised society, outstanding individuals of their race do not redeem them as a whole in my eyes especially since they're so few so i definitely would prefer to be governed by white people.

Racist? Probably, but also quite sensible when you look at the sh*tpit black Africa is, i dont mind a random murzyn in the govt tho.

zetigrekThreads: 59 Posts: 2,709 Joined: May 20, 10 ♂	Dec 9, 10, 17:17 #10
1jola: All we need now is a transvestite elected. There was already the Piesiewicz case... who cares after that? ;)

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Dec 9, 10, 17:28 #11

1jola:

It was hardly news in Warsaw but I'm sure it's hugely important here on PF.

You don't think posting it helps to sway people's opinions on whether "Poles are racist homophobes"?

Sokrates:

Anyway whats the big deal? I'm still a tad confused why a random nigga or a fag in the politics make the headlines, they're people too, as long as they're not some sort of political faction based on skin colour or brownie dipping preferations i'm not troubled at all.

Careful not to let too many of those warm and fuzzy equality comments come out.

Sokrates:

Personally i view blacks as a race as inferiors who can't govern themselves or create a civilised society, outstanding individuals of their race do not redeem them as a whole in my eyes especially since they're so few so i definitely would prefer to be governed by white people.

There we go, finally back to normal.

Anyway, I think that it's an interesting topic that relates to quite a few threads here.

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Edited by: Sokrates Dec 9, 10, 17:32 #12

convex:

Careful not to let too many of those warm and fuzzy equality comments come out.

Never been much for all that, people are made unequal, you think otherwise? Shoulder Alexander the Great then.

I do not believe politics should administritavely deny access to unsuitable people, there should be social standards in place that do that though, who's unsuitable, well in democracy its up to the people, including me:)

convex:

You don't think posting it helps to sway people's opinions on whether "Poles are racist homophobes"?

Not really, between Harry, Delphiaonline and a number of other twats this forum paints Poles in the worst possible colors.

To be honest though the only racist homophobic Pole i know is me.

1jolaThreads: 33 Posts: 2,737 Joined: Sep 23, 08 ♂	Edited by: 1jola Dec 9, 10, 17:35 #13
What happened to Palikot? He probably does night shows at Legierski's gay club Marian's Lips (Usta Mariana) since he can't make it in politics. :)

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Dec 9, 10, 17:57 #14

Sokrates:

To be honest though the only racist homophobic Pole i know is me

I can't possibly counteract that, fair play!

Sokrates:

Personally i view blacks as a race as inferiors

Personally i view human race as equal...some people are better at doing certain things than others simple as. Your doctor won't regard you as inferior b'se he earns more than you.

Sokrates:

sh*tpit black Africa is

Every continent is a sh*thole these days, depending on what your argument is.

1jolaThreads: 33 Posts: 2,737 Joined: Sep 23, 08 ♂	Edited by: 1jola Dec 9, 10, 18:00 #15
convex: You don't think posting it helps to sway people's opinions on whether "Poles are racist homophobes"? Not anymore than me trying to convince you all you fellow Oklahomans are Klan members. Some are. See? Do you see the token black there though?

SokratesThreads: 19 Posts: 4,464 Joined: Jan 19, 09 ♂ [Suspended]	Dec 9, 10, 18:02 #16
paulinska: Every continent is a shthole these days, depending on what your argument is. Having peace, stability, medicine, schools, roads, internet and so forth makes Europe SUCH a shthole indeed!

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Dec 9, 10, 18:17 #17

Sokrates:

Having peace, stability, medicine, schools, roads, internet and so forth makes Europe SUCH a sh*thole indeed!

Such a rosy place Europe is, isn't it? There's much more to life than all that! The key word is Hapiness. If you're happy with your life, then it don't matter where in world you're. That's why some people come to Europe to look for a better, happier life and likewise, others leave Europe for exactly the same reasons. I find your reasoning quite weak on this issue, i suggest we don't side track the OP's thread.

convexThreads: 46 Posts: 7,185 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Dec 9, 10, 18:36 #18
1jola: Not anymore than me trying to convince you all you fellow Oklahomans are Klan members. Dunno, if you posted a picture of JC Watts, that would kind of disprove that. (PS, we are all Klan members)

jonniThreads: 26 Posts: 4,181 Joined: Nov 27, 07 ♂	Dec 9, 10, 18:41 #19
Sokrates: Harry, Delphiaonline and a number of other twats this forum paints Poles in the worst possible colors. I can name one of those twats. Sokrates: a random nigga or a fag Sokrates: i view blacks as a race as inferiors

pgtxThreads: 49 Posts: 6,327 Joined: Feb 14, 09 MEMBER ♀	Dec 10, 10, 04:59 #20
convex: the first openly gay Polish elected official, he's a Warsaw city councilman.. so? paulinska: Sexuality and Race shouldn't come into play at all! yep jonni: I can name one of those twats. as most of us, you get used to that... sadly...

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