The legalization of Ukrainian immigrants in Poland

hague1cmaeronThreads: 21 Posts: 1,652 Joined: Mar 30, 10 ♂	Edited by: hague1cmaeron Oct 23, 10, 01:44 #1
A rally before parliament by Ukrainians wanting to be legalized. http://wyborcza.pl/1,75248,8556284,Imigranci__Chcemy_godnie_zyc_w_Pols ce.html What is your opinion, it is a little ironic on one level that before and after the war they were resisting becoming a part of Poland, but now they seem to be very keen(: maybe they are a little confused.

IronsideThreads: 59 Posts: 6,786 Joined: Feb 26, 09 ♂	Oct 23, 10, 01:51 #2
hague1cmaeron: maybe they are a little confused. Give back our land first ! However I don't think that illegal immigrants should be granted citizenship, on the other hand maybe they want permits for work - well ?!

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Edited by: Mr Grunwald Oct 23, 10, 01:59 #3

Ironside:

However I don't think that illegal immigrants should be granted citizenship,

Indeed

Ironside:

on the other hand maybe they want permits for work - well ?!

Let's create an "bortherly" working permit for Ukrainians living in Poland!
Force them to do some Polish history classes (very few to just catch the basics)
Then they can work! (Their close anyway and not too different) If they can get work? LET THEM HAVE IT! :)

As long as it builds up Poland it shouldn't be a problem
Unless they will try to do a Kosovo...

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,968 Joined: Nov 10, 06 ♀	Oct 23, 10, 02:18 #4
hague1cmaeron: A rally before parliament by Ukrainians wanting to be legalized. Legalize them all, just think how cheap they'll be able to do those jobs the lazy Poles wont do? :D

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Edited by: hague1cmaeron Oct 23, 10, 02:20 #5

From what i understand most of them work in orchards, if that is the case why did we have to go through so much trouble, I am sure that back in the old days they could have found plenty of Polish landowners in the Ukraine, that would have been more than willing to accommodate them(:

Amathyst:

Legalize them all, just think how cheap they'll be able to do those jobs the lazy Poles wont do? :D

I don't know, I am afraid that they will become a bit too much like the Brits(:

warszawskiThreads: 60 Posts: 2,388 Joined: May 21, 10 ♂	Oct 23, 10, 02:53 #6
hague1cmaeron: What is your opinion In an ideal world , why not, unfortunately there are many gangs of criminals in the ukraine that do not have the same values as we do.

Mr GrunwaldThreads: 34 Posts: 2,358 Joined: Dec 16, 08 ♂	Oct 23, 10, 03:03 #7
warszawski: that do not have the same values as we do. Yes Polish criminals are such saints indeed ;)

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Edited by: hague1cmaeron Oct 23, 10, 04:11 #8

warszawski:

In an ideal world , why not, unfortunately there are many gangs of criminals in the ukraine that do not have the same values as we do.

It does seem to be a problem, I read an article about Czaniecki trying to invest in the Ukraine, and the guy is very familiar in his dealings with the dodgy side of the business world and government, after all he made a lot of his money from the transition in the early 90s. Well he tried, but even by his standards of doing business the system was completely incomprehensible to him, and even by his standards very corrupt.

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Edited by: Amathyst Oct 23, 10, 04:20 #9

warszawski:

In an ideal world , why not, unfortunately there are many gangs of criminals in the ukraine that do not have the same values as we do.

What like the Polish people traffickers they sentenced the other week in the UK? I dont recall much people trafficking by English people of late...So that would say that our values are different from yours, or are you generalising? Like I just did then..

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Oct 23, 10, 04:34 #10

Ironside:

Give back our land first !

Then we would need to give back our western Poland to Germans..right? The borders got shifted by the big three honchos after the second world war and that's a given.

Ironside:

I don't think that illegal immigrants should be granted citizenship, on the other hand maybe they want permits for work - well

Yeah, that's how America feels about Mexicans.

Amathyst:

Legalize them all, just think how cheap they'll be able to do those jobs the lazy Poles wont do? :D

Let them clean the toilets! :)

warszawski:

unfortunately there are many gangs of criminals in the Ukraine that do not have the same values as we do.

lol. So what are the polish gang values? Do tell. Please.

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