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Foreigner4Threads: 22
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Joined: Nov 18, 07 ♂ 		 Apr 22, 10, 02:09    #1
It seems the camera man who video taped what appeared to be some figures maneuvering in and around the wreckage was stabbed and sent to hospital where he was on life support. While in hospital he was taken off life support and stabbed some more. He's dead.


" Author of the video seen by everyone by now has been stabbed near Kijow on 4.15 and transported in critical condition to the hospital in Kijow. On 4.16 three unidentified individuals unplugged him from life support system and stabbed him 3 more times. Andrij was pronounced dead that afternoon. Russian government claims it was a coincidence. "



another version


I definitely hear something that sounds like small arms fire in the second video
richasisThreads: 5
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Joined: Jul 25, 09 ♂ 		 Apr 22, 10, 02:18    #2
I just read this and was going to post it here. The plot thickens...
dtaylor5632Threads: 49
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Joined: May 2, 09  Pictures: 3 ♂ 		Edited by: dtaylor5632  Apr 22, 10, 02:31    #3
The noise you can hear is the sap exploding in the trees from the heat. The "shots" are singular and too spread out to be anyone trying to kill another. You cant see anyone near the "falling people" so you wouldnt execute them with a single shot unless u were at very close range. Nice video though I dont believe in what the OP implies, I dont speak Russian so thats it from me.

The fact there is not one viable news story about this guys death on the net is another point. Only info u can find about him is on forums about conspiracies. Video could have been edited, the so called people could be anything falling, there are a lot trees and debris in the area.
pgtxThreads: 49
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Foreigner4:
Man who video taped crash site: Dead

where did you find this news? any source?
RevokeNiceThreads: 21
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pgtx:
where did you find this news? any source?


http://fakty.interia.pl/raport/lech-kaczynski-nie-zyje/news/dwie-czarn e-skrzynki-juz-rozszyfrowane/komentarze,1467054,1,29891999
pgtxThreads: 49
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a reliable source....
not another idiotic comment of some Marta...
i can't find anything...
dtaylor5632Threads: 49
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Mystery solved after looking into it. The translation in the vid is not correct.
At 1.37 the man does not scream "give me the gun". he screams: давайте нахуй отсюда (get the fu..k away from here) and received the reply: не стреляйте в нас (do not shoot at us).Russian reply, not Polish!! It looks like a vid taken sometime after the crash and sometime after the bodies had been taken. Some Russian wanting to make a few bucks by taking footage of the crash scene. And that the mysterious people around the crash site are officers just guarding it trying to stop the press or locals from disturbing the area.
ShawnHThreads: 9
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Joined: Jul 2, 09 ♂ 		Edited by: ShawnH  Apr 22, 10, 03:11    #8
The reported death of the videographer may not be accurate According to this website:

“Osoba która ten filmik wrzuciła jako pierwsza na szybko go usunęła i jego konto też zostało usunięte! Autorem tego filmu był Andriej Mendierej, któremu wbito nóż w okolicach Kijowa 15 kwietnia 2010. Został przywieziony w tragicznym stanie do szpitala w Kijowie gdzie odłączono aparaturę!” (informacja o śmierci autora filmu okazała się plotką – przypis Redakcji)

Google translate butchers it as follows:

"The person who threw this movie the first was quickly removed and his account was deleted too! The author of this movie was Mendierej Andrei, who dug the knife in the vicinity of Kiev, April 15, 2010. It has been brought in an awful state to a hospital in Kiev, where he disconnected the apparatus! " (Information on the author's death the film turned out to be rumor - Editor's note)

If somebody is interested in properly translating, that would be appreciated...

I don't know if we will ever know the truth on this aspect of the story.
dtaylor5632Threads: 49
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conspiracies will never go away. but id rather move on from this out of respect for those who died and their families. rip
plk123Threads: 30
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where in the heck is Olga? lol
dtaylor5632Threads: 49
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She is here, but if she comes anywhere near this thread after I've already de-bunked it I will direct the KGB in her direction....dun dun dun!
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dtaylor5632:
давайте нахуй отсюда (get the fu..k away from here) and received the reply: не стреляйте в нас (do not shoot at us).Russian reply, not Polish!!


I could hear word 'gnata' (gnat = gun), but I might be wrong. As for the rest:
Why would the crew scream in Polish? They spoke fluent Russian plus they were in RUSSIA.
wildroverThreads: 180
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Foreigner4:
Man who video taped crash site: Dead


Serves him right....terrible quality on the video....he should be shot....!
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dtaylor5632:
The noise you can hear is the sap exploding in the trees from the heat.


I could be wrong, but from the footage it does not look like there is any real heat for sap from tress to explode? I could be wrong...there are a couple of fires on the ground, but surely not strong enough to make sap explode in the trees?
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pgtx:
where did you find this news? any source?


The fact that it's being reported as Kijow, not Kyiv or Kiev (which are the English names) tells you all you need to know about the credibility of this rumour - it was invented by a Pole.
SeanusThreads: 22
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		 Apr 22, 10, 18:45    #16
This is hardly unprecedented as Barry Jennings, a major 9/11 witness, mysteriously died and nothing was in the press about his evidence. Also, Aaron Russo mysteriously died which makes you wonder. This is just another example.
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Easy_Terran:

I could hear word 'gnata' (gnat = gun), but I might be wrong.


It was already discussed in another thread here on PF and founded definetely wrong.
skibumThreads: 13
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keen111:
I could be wrong, but from the footage it does not look like there is any real heat for sap from tress to explode? I could be wrong...there are a couple of fires on the ground, but surely not strong enough to make sap explode in the trees?



Sap explodes in my fire place, and i can assure you there isn't 1000's of litres of aviation fuel in there.
AjbThreads: 12
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Amazing footage....
famdThreads: -
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those are weapons firing shots 100% in my opinion too
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Seanus:
Also, Aaron Russo mysteriously died which makes you wonder.

Aaron Russo didn't mysteriously die.
SeanusThreads: 22
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Jak nie, jak tak!? ;)

Sure he did! His death was untimely but he got his message out there.
convexThreads: 46
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Seanus:
Jak nie, jak tak!?

Mysteriously dying after fighting a losing battle with cancer?

Anyway, Russo was a huge loss :(
famdThreads: -
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Start watching this from 00:45

It will be very eyes-opening for many people:

Aaron Russo, few weeks before getting killed,
exposes the New World Order / international bankers
agenda...

Aaron Russo was much more important that the dead journalist / witness
from the Smolensk plane-explosion-site, and he was murdered too:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nD7dbkkBIA





Over 1 million views on YouTube so far
SeanusThreads: 22
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		 Apr 22, 10, 22:48    #25
These kind of people have contacts and had the potential to spread the word and get it out there. Greed knows no boundaries and neither does old wounds. Look deeper than you ordinarily would and you will find answers.
f stopThreads: 33
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he was probably trying to get money, angered wrong people. Shady deals.
Here is a de-shaked version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyGWiU0LuUg&feature=player_embedded
Louis001Threads: 11
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I knew something was fishy about this so called accident. I'm hearing different stories like there was no fog at the time, it was tree being burnt and the runway light was not on full beam they were dimmed.
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famd:
Aaron Russo, few weeks before getting killed

He was fighting a public battle with cancer.
ShawnHThreads: 9
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But did he unwittingly capture a live survivor on video? If so, what happened to him?
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ShawnH:
what happened to him?

He had all his blood drained and used to make special matzoh, obviously.

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