Seanus: Chertoff is a bad egg for sure. It's really hard to prove any involvement beyond reasonable doubt, Joe, as 9/11 research is characterised by being deflected by red herrings. I think most Jewish-Israeli officials covered their tracks fairly well. As for the Mossad, well, Robert Maxwell is a prime example of what happens to those who cross them or mess them around. Those arrests and detentions by the US govt were just token gestures that sth was being done. So far Joe, I have seen you outline the vested interests of megalomaniacs with connections to Israel but I haven't seen concrete, incontrovertible evidence. Allegations can always be refuted. Seanus, all the hard evidence was destroyed, at the WTC by the demolition blast, and by the removal of the evidence under the direction of Rudi Guiliani and FEMA...However there are bits and pieces of the remaining steel, and traces of themate, as confirmed by both Bollyn and Professor Steven Jones, have been discovered...There was also the detection of low level radiation at Ground Zero, and the ensuing cancers and related diseases of the 'first responders', indicating possible nuclear or radioctive material.
In the US, a mass of 'circumstantial' evidence is enough to get a Grand Jury to hand down an indictment...You don't neccesarily need a 'smoking gun' although I am sure that if enough pressure were applied to possible suspects, one could be obtained...What 'smoking gun' would link Osama Ben Laden with the event...Absolutely none.
And yes...Accusations can be refuted...'Figures can lie, and liars figure'...But, there has never been an open investigation...Henry Kissinger was Bush's first choice to head the '911 Commission' but Kissinger was too smart to go for that....I also like the Robert Maxwell point.
MareGaea: Lenin was not a Jew. His mother was Lutheranian and his father a Russian aristocrat; this disqualifies him as being a Jew. Zinovive (I take it you mean Zinovi Pechkoff) was Jewish, but was considered a traitor because he fought in the White Army during the Russian Civil War and besides, he was French anyway. Kaganavich (I take it you mean Pinchas Kahanowitsch) was a Jew and a writer, he had nothing to do as such with the Bolshevik revolution. He died in a gulag, for your information. Trotzki was indeed a Jew. But he got killed by Stalin in 1940 as enemy. Leaves only Stalin, whos only connection to the Jewish was David Papismedow, a Jewish client of his mother who gave Stalin as a child the means to study. So, a few of the names you mention were not part of the leading Soviets and of the leading Soviets only Trotzki was Jew. The part of Felix Dzershinsky (correct name: Felix Edmundowitsch Dserschinski) is completely made up as he was the son of a teacher, Edmund Dzierzyński who in turn descended from Polish nobility. So where you got that name "Rutin" from is a complete mystery to me. Guess it's part of the usual anti-semitic strategies, when they have no "proof", they simply make it up. As for Churchill's mother, it is more likely that she descended from American natives than from Jews. I could go on, but I am sure I can rebuke all your allegations about Jews, but I just don't feel like it anymore, because, like I said in my previous post, everything you write and "research" will have the same outcome. And that is pretty tiresome.And Obama will want to have the best advisors around him and if they happen to be Jews, then so be it. Polish are not as superb as you may think they are, so maybe there aren't any decent Polish or Irish advisors around at this point in time. Nothing to do with religion, Joe. And the POOR Romanov family...Poor for exploiting the Russian ppl for decades and even centuries... All the above were Jews, including Lenin (mother's name Blank/Blanc)...Possibly father's family, too...His younger sister said that he was 'proud to come from a poor Jewish family', plus he spoke Yiddish...Beyond anything else, Lenin was a psychopath...When I have time I will publish a list (I actually already did, but the list was censored by the moderators on a different thread about Communism)...You approve of the murders of the Romanovs, and the throwing of their bodies in a mine shaft?...You are getting more and more curious...As to no Irish or Poles being around, please, can we be real here?...Only Jews have the ability to run the FED, advise the president or make policy?...This is a racist assumption...
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