MISSING POLISH CHILD FOUND ALIVE... Donation Thread

pgtxThreads: 49 Posts: 6,327 Joined: Feb 14, 09 MEMBER ♀	Edited by: pgtx Oct 21, 10, 21:15 #91
Some cuddle toys... children books for a 10 year old

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Oct 21, 10, 21:17 #92
Books are good!

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Edited by: SeanBM Oct 21, 10, 21:18 #93

Bratwurst Boy:

About what to donate....better we start a list of ideas

Finding out what she needs is probably the most effective way to go about this.
Saving her foot, if it is a matter of money.

Perhaps there is already a collection for her, to which we could contribute?

I am not against giving this girl something to comfort her like a teddy either, the collection is already a room full of teddies.

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Oct 21, 10, 21:19 #94
For that we need to contact the hospital...I'm not sure they are allowed to give strangers such vital informations... I have no idea how such medical things are handled in Poland. Is her treatment a money question? That of course would beat all cuddle toys and books...

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,727 Joined: Mar 10, 08 ♂	Edited by: SeanBM Oct 21, 10, 21:21 #95
Bratwurst Boy: For that we need to contact the hospital...I'm not sure they are allowed to give strangers such vital informations... I agree, that's why I ask about someone closer to her collecting for her, to which we could contribute. Bratwurst Boy: Is her treatment a money question? We have insufficient information so far to answer that for now.

pgtxThreads: 49 Posts: 6,327 Joined: Feb 14, 09 MEMBER ♀	Edited by: pgtx Oct 21, 10, 21:22 #96
SeanBM: that's why I ask about someone closer to her collecting for her, to which we could contribute. Torq was so nice to agree helping us out in that matter... Bratwurst Boy: That of course would beat all cuddle toys and books... i agree, but children need some toys to comfort them and make them smile... it's also therapeutic :)

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Oct 21, 10, 21:23 #97

Bratwurst Boy:

About what to donate....better we start a list of ideas...I would start with:

1.) Some cuddle toys...

2.) ......

There were some good suggestions made, but it probably makes sense to hold off until we know a bit more about her situation. It was reported that Karina has epilepsy and is autistic, so keep that in mind when suggesting something.

PS, it's pretty damn amazing how quickly you guys reacted. Thanks.

From an idea in wildrovers head to a sizable amount of cash in a couple hours!

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Oct 21, 10, 21:25 #98
Our Wildy! :)

TorqThreads: 65 Posts: 4,024 Joined: Apr 10, 09 MEMBER ♂	Oct 21, 10, 21:29 #99
pgtx: Torq was so nice to agree helping us out in that matter... That's not what Sean meant (he was probably thinking about some Karina's family member), and I will repeat it again - I am NOT collecting money for the girl. It's Convex's job - I'm only a delivery driver, simply because I happen to live closest to Gdynia of all forum members, that's all.

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,188 Joined: Jun 7, 07 ♂	Oct 21, 10, 21:32 #100
convex: m an idea in wildrovers head to a sizable amount of cash in a couple hours! It just goes to prove the doctors wrong...there is something in my head other than pink fluff...!

David_18Threads: 111 Posts: 1,212 Joined: Jan 4, 07 ♂	Oct 21, 10, 21:33 #101
pgtx: # Some cuddle toys... # children books for a 10 year old Every girl like flowers! I dont care what you do with the rest but for the cash i've donated i want you to buy her some flowers!!! so put that on the list ;)

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Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Oct 21, 10, 21:34 #102

Our Torqi! :)

Okay...new plan (I'm a German I need a plan):

1.) Gathering money (1 week?)

2.) Collecting information about Karina, hospital, family, other donators/collections etc.
(some polish speaking member would be best I think)

3.) Brainstorming how to spend gathered money best including collected informations

4.) democratic voting about what to do with donations

5.) Buying stuff with donated money

6.) Sending bought stuff to Torq

7.) Torq delivers stuff to Karina

8.) photo of deliverance published in thread

:)

pgtxThreads: 49 Posts: 6,327 Joined: Feb 14, 09 MEMBER ♀	Oct 21, 10, 21:35 #103
Bratwurst Boy: 5.) Buying who's gonna buy and i wanna see pictures... ;)

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Oct 21, 10, 21:38 #104

Bratwurst Boy:

I have no idea how such medical things are handled in Poland. Is her treatment a money question? That of course would beat all cuddle toys and books...

If the story is getting media attention she will be well looked after in that respect. The problem starts when she gets back home, if the family are very poor, they needs things that you and I take for granted, maybe the family needs a fridge work done on their house to prepare them for a cold winter, some of these old houses in the countryside do not even have a toilet indoors.
Toys and teddies can easily be found between us and she will not know they have been used. But what is the use of a little girl having a computer or lots of cuddly toys when the family can't eat and the house is falling to pieces.

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Oct 21, 10, 21:39 #105
Yes, but there is only so much we can do...

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Edited by: Torq Oct 21, 10, 21:41 #106

pgtx:

who's gonna buy and i wanna see pictures... ;)

I can either do the buying with the money Convex collects (and then, of course, everyone
who donated will receive some nice pictures to his PM box :)) or I can simply deliver whatever
Convex sends me after HE buys it (he already knows my home address, so I don't have to worry
about giving it away on an open forum ;))

Or - we can find out if someone closer to Karina (like a family member) isn't already collecting
money for her and pass everything directly to him.

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,188 Joined: Jun 7, 07 ♂	Oct 21, 10, 21:44 #107
Torq: Or - we can find out if someone closer to Karina (like a family member) isn't already collecting money for her and pass everything directly to him. did somebody say her parents are alcoholic....perhaps not a good idea to give them a big bunch of cash...

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Edited by: David_18 Oct 21, 10, 21:45 #108

warszawski:

If the story is getting media attention she will be well looked after in that respect.

I still think it's a good idea that we get in contact with the media.

Even if we maybe need to pay taxes for it, we will still generate more money then if we would do this alone.

warszawski:

The problem starts when she gets back home,

We can always start a small private foundation for her where everyone can send a euro or 2 each month.

We could even start an Polish forum Foundation where we Donate money for different causes in Poland.

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Oct 21, 10, 21:48 #109

David_18:

I still think it's a good idea that we get in contact with the media.

David_18:

We can always start a small private foundation for her where everyone can pot a euro or 2 each month.

We could even start an Polish forum Foundation where we Donate money for different causes in Poland.

Well, that would involve a whole lot of paperwork and time that I don't really have.

Driving to Gdynia with gifts or money for the girl is one thing, but running a regular charity
foundation is a completely different matter.

pgtxThreads: 49 Posts: 6,327 Joined: Feb 14, 09 MEMBER ♀	Oct 21, 10, 21:48 #110
convex: PS, it's pretty damn amazing how quickly you guys reacted. Thanks. From an idea in wildrovers head to a sizable amount of cash in a couple hours! yeah, i like our short moments of love and compassion to another human being.... ;)

David_18Threads: 111 Posts: 1,212 Joined: Jan 4, 07 ♂	Edited by: David_18 Oct 21, 10, 21:50 #111
Torq: Well, that would involve a whole lot of paperwork and time that I don't really have. Driving to Gdynia with gifts or money for the girl is one thing, but running a regular charity foundation is a completely different matter. It's just me dreaming away ;) Gosh i feel like Jesus! is that a sin? :o Btw how much have people donated so far?

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Oct 21, 10, 21:51 #112
Let us make a little step...but that alright... So...who is calling the hospital or the newspaper for more info about the girl and what she would need? That would clear up things...

George8600Threads: 20 Posts: 1,114 Joined: Feb 19, 09 ♂	Oct 21, 10, 21:53 #113
Wow we really got this thing going! So I'm confused, are we all doing this by giving money to paypal now? How will that money be used or given to the little girl? Who will take the goods to her, is convex the one who lives in the area? Also what are we doing to tell the media about this? I have already told some people at my university...

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Edited by: Torq Oct 21, 10, 21:53 #114

Bratwurst Boy:

So...who is calling the hospital or the newspaper for more info about the girl and what she would need?

I'll try to call the hospital tomorrow. I doubt if they will tell me anything concrete, but it's worth to try.

George8600:

Wow we really got this thing going! So I'm confused, are we all doing this by giving money to paypal now? How will that money be used or given to the little girl? Who will take the goods to her, is convex the one who lives in the area?

Also what are we doing to tell the media about this? I have already told some people at my university...

You will find all the answers to your questions in the thread.

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,188 Joined: Jun 7, 07 ♂	Oct 21, 10, 21:53 #115
David_18: We could even start an Polish forum Foundation where we Donate money for different causes in Poland. I already thought of that..but it will require somebody with the time and willingness to do it....its not an easy job.... I did it on a small scale , and it was exhausting...

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 ♂ [Moderator]	Oct 21, 10, 21:54 #116
pgtx: who's gonna buy and i wanna see pictures... ;) the amount of work u guys are putting in u might find the pictures on the news

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Oct 21, 10, 21:56 #117
Torq: I'll try to call the hospital tomorrow. I doubt if they will tell me anything concrete, but it's worth to try. That is great Torq, thank you! At least we tried...

George8600Threads: 20 Posts: 1,114 Joined: Feb 19, 09 ♂	Oct 21, 10, 21:58 #118
So Torq you will deliver and buy with Convex's money that we all gave? May I request what to do with my money and a photo of the deliverance as pgtx instisted?

David_18Threads: 111 Posts: 1,212 Joined: Jan 4, 07 ♂	Edited by: David_18 Oct 21, 10, 21:58 #119
Torq: I'll try to call the hospital tomorrow. I doubt if they will tell me anything concrete, but it's worth to try. The confidentiality is very high on hospitals and only close family members got access to her files and i think you need the permission of her family to even visit her etc etc.

pgtxThreads: 49 Posts: 6,327 Joined: Feb 14, 09 MEMBER ♀	Oct 21, 10, 22:00 #120
thank you, convex, Torq and the rest of the gang, for doing all that job... that's awesome :)

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