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saschaThreads: 13 Posts: 3,856 Joined: Jun 10, 10 ♂	Nov 29, 11, 17:30 #241
ShortHairThug: Brave soldiers indeed. they are called nato models, those who serve in kosovo. angsthasen with a uniform ;)

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Edited by: Crow Nov 29, 11, 17:37 #242

sascha:

they are 'just' the executors of those via atlantic

they aren`t just executors. They passionately fight against Serbs/Slavs. These German troops were sent by NATO command to replace Polish Kosovo troops. Poles didn`t want to fight against their brotherly Serbs but these German devils passionately doing their dirty job in creation of ethnically pure Islamic Greater Albania- deeply anti-Slavic creation.

i present these pictures just to show how German hate on Poles/Slavs back in Germany prepared Germans for another `drang nach osten`. German army moved against Slavs again. Yes, that`s what we see here. Today Serbs, tomorrow Poles... fights for survivor >>>

German army perpetrated repression over native Slavs. It was back before WWII, it was during WWII and it is so now

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Nov 29, 11, 18:02 #243

Crow:

Poles didn`t want to fight against their brotherly Serbs

??? if uncle sam says poles go, they go. punkt.

Crow:

they aren`t just executors. They passionately fight against Serbs/Slavs.

thats not true and you know that. your enthusiasm is ok, but in massen ;)

Crow:

German devils

???wtf.

Crow:

creation of ethnically pure Islamic Greater Albania- deeply anti-Slavic creation

sth i cannot understand. they used albanians in ww2 as allience and it seems that history is repeating, BUT that is imo very shortsighted. the bill will be huge and paid afterwards...we had that already...because of stupid alliences.

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Edited by: Crow Nov 29, 11, 18:17 #244
i blame Russia for this. Russia shouldn`t allow Germany to re-unite after annihilated all those Slavs back in WWII. Eastern Germans (minimum Eastern Germans) are anyway former germanzied Slavs. Now, with new totalitarian regime in Berlin/Bon they are proud Germans again. Proud and crazy, full of hate on Slavs.

NatasaThreads: 7 Posts: 2,607 Joined: Jun 6, 10 MEMBER ♀	Nov 29, 11, 18:33 #245
Crow, no no no no !!!!! German demons, not devils (Devil is one and only , wink wink ;)) and German and Demon are synonyms in Serbian language ;)) stop the earth i want to get off

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Nov 29, 11, 18:48 #246

Crow:

Now, with new totalitarian regime in Berlin/Bon they are proud Germans again. Proud and crazy, full of hate on Slavs.

i think that is too much of a generalization. like in every society you have those andersdenkende which are probably more critical about the course of the german admin. their voices have to be considered, too.

Crow:

i blame Russia for this. Russia shouldn`t allow Germany to re-unite after annihilated all those Slavs back in WWII. Eastern Germans (minimum Eastern Germans) are anyway former germanzied Slavs.

there is still the balance in europe, due the support of the uk by the big brother usa and france being somewhat in the middle. they would not allow some alleingang of germany.

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,955 Joined: May 17, 07 ♂	Nov 29, 11, 20:46 #247
I see again Serbs beating and shooting Germanics in Kosovo.It seems traditions die hard.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Nov 29, 11, 20:53 #248
Sascha, do you feel allegiance to the German state in any way? You seem to be caught in the middle of this clash. It's natural that Germans are up in arms about the recent influx of foreigners. However, they must ask themselves the question of how they want their country to be in the face of a rising Islamic influence. I'm not saying it's a bad thing per se, just that it's an emerging reality.

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 ♂ [Moderator]	Nov 29, 11, 20:53 #249
Please keep to the topic: MORE ANTI-POLISH SENTIMENT IN GERMANY it might help if contributors to this thread start by reading the first post. thank you.

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,955 Joined: May 17, 07 ♂	Nov 29, 11, 21:02 #250
Seanus: they must ask themselves the question of how they want their country to be in the face of a rising Islamic influence. Germans are not afraid of the Islamics.German society is hardcore and does not assimilate.Most Turks etc live in ghetto.

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Nov 29, 11, 21:12 #251

Wrocław, I did. The 'recent influx of foreigners' was in reference to Poles against the backdrop of the general rise in Islamic elements in Germany. I had Merkel's view of 'multi-culti' in mind. Sascha will clarify this but I think Germans view this issue more generally whereas quite a few Brits have singled out Poles. I wanted to draw that demarcation. Without that background, Wrocław, the discussion falls flat on its face.

What we should be encouraging here is individual stories of posters with first-hand exp of this (the thread topic). Otherwise, it's just imagination and prejudice at work, right?

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 ♂ [Moderator]	Nov 29, 11, 21:21 #252
Seanus, i was more concerned with posts in line with this. southern: I see again Serbs beating and shooting Germanics in Kosovo.It seems traditions die hard.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Nov 29, 11, 21:29 #253
Right enough as we posted at the same time. Sorry! Asides from the recent fracas on Nov 11, I've heard of no friction though I'm sure JK will be sure to invent some being the sad little man that he is.

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Nov 29, 11, 21:55 #254

wroclaw, seanus, southern

really i have no clue how and to whom to answer first. i ll try to cover as much as possible and not to be off topic. ok?

germans in general like only themselves. thats a fact and thats the way they mostly come along. the thing is the more in the youth or education you had contact with foreigners they are no problem at all. its simply the fact where you are in society and if you feel endangered by them.

southern, yes, they mostly life in ghettos. the biggest ones are now in berlin. there you hve turkish, russian, polish and asian quarters. that came with the last einsiedlung from mr. kanzler kohl... ;)

all in total the integration was/is a sensible topic. my generation didnt have any problems with the gastarbeiter who came to ger all over europe. when the waves from former block countries started to 'flod' germany, many older people and cons of course saw themselves in danger. i know thats stupid, but they still had that ww2 experience in mind.

nowadays the problem for the admin to turn the time back wards, meaning to make some kind of selection for immigrants like it is usual in us, nzl and aus. that is not possible. that is also the reason why the changes in law come across that drastic.
all in total i can only say for myself, that i had in elem school guys from spain, italy, yu and turkey and we came along great. i never had tha issue with foreigners, but as i said, education and society where you move are important for that imo.

wroclaw, i hope this comment will not go in the box. my fingers hurt from that much typing. have mercy ;)

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Nov 29, 11, 23:04 #255

Wroclaw:

Please keep to the topic: MORE ANTI-POLISH SENTIMENT IN GERMANY

i respect you man but, with all due respect, how is possible that you can`t understand that topic developing- horizontally and vertically

Wroclaw:

it might help if contributors to this thread start by reading the first post. thank you.

yes, exactly that inspired me.

southern:

Germans are not afraid of the Islamics.German society is hardcore and does not assimilate.Most Turks etc live in ghetto.

i have to disagree.

German society isn`t hardcore. Germany always needed totalitarian regimes in order to prolong effects of germanization over the assimilated Slavic masses. Furthermore, necessity for totalitarian regimes always pushed German society to the extremism and generated hate on Slavs that are primary target (as long as Slavs exist they are threatening very fundaments of society/idea of German nation). That`s why we have hate on Poles, hate on Serbs, hate on Czechs, hate on all Slavs after all, except on those who are cooperative, as it is case with Croatia and Bulgaria

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Nov 29, 11, 23:15 #256

Crow:

Furthermore, necessity for totalitarian regimes always pushed German society to the extremism and generated hate on Slavs that are primary target (as long as Slavs exist they are threatening very fundaments of society/idea of German nation). That`s why we have hate on Poles, hate on Serbs, hate on Czechs, hate on all Slavs after all, except on those who are cooperative, as it is case with Croatia and Bulgaria

is it possible that you too much watch history channel? ;) and think that todays germany is just a copy of the period 1933-45???

a)why should germans need a totalitarian regime?

b)everyone, including slavs, are german targets. germans love/like only themselves.

c)everyone who is not-german is threatening german society.

d)germans dont hate others. they or the admin want to dominate them.

this is based on your thoughts.
again you generalize very nicely. any chance to differentiate a little? crow, slowly i am getting angry because of this what you write here.

there are things in the german mentality/society which are good and which are bad. furthermore the society has more to offer than this hardcore aggression what you draw here. take that into consideration.

poles and germans? i would guess that like in so many other cases the relations on the personal level are much better than on admin.

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Nov 29, 11, 23:39 #257

Crow, blackadder is right insofar as you have to let go of some old daggers or you'll never move forward. Poles and Germans must learn to do the same. Take people as you find them and try not to look at nationality so much. For example, there are some Poles that get on my nerves but many are really nice people and I'm happy to walk among them. Nationality gazing is counterproductive through the chosen lens :)

saschaThreads: 13 Posts: 3,856 Joined: Jun 10, 10 ♂	Dec 5, 11, 17:47 #258
Seanus: Germans must learn to do the same.....let go of some old daggers i dont know if you had the chance to read the speach of helmut schmidt during the spd meeting last week. he had some intersting point for the 'new and modern german leaders'... imo since the end of ww2 he is/was the only reasonable kanzler in germany, of course also his mandate wasnt without flaws...

Mr GrunwaldThreads: 34 Posts: 2,358 Joined: Dec 16, 08 ♂	Dec 6, 11, 00:48 #259
Crow: i blame Russia for this. Russia shouldn`t allow Germany to re-unite after annihilated all those Slavs back in WWII. Calm down, breath! A few more steppes and your closer to be called a Pole :)

PennBoyThreads: 157 Posts: 3,443 Joined: Dec 7, 08 ♂	Dec 6, 11, 03:03 #260
Lithuanians trying to mock Poles but they're not even good at it, disappointing..

MediaWatchThreads: 31 Posts: 1,305 Joined: Aug 30, 08 ♂	Dec 7, 11, 01:10 #261
Crow: i blame Russia for this. Russia shouldn`t allow Germany to re-unite after annihilated all those Slavs back in WWII. Eastern Germans (minimum Eastern Germans) are anyway former germanzied Slavs. Now, with new totalitarian regime in Berlin/Bon they are proud Germans again. Proud and crazy, full of hate on Slavs. Germany and Russia seem to be good friends now.

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Dec 7, 11, 01:16 #262
MediaWatch: Germany and Russia seem to be good friends now. No. Germany mistaken. Again

saschaThreads: 13 Posts: 3,856 Joined: Jun 10, 10 ♂	Dec 7, 11, 22:15 #263
Crow: No. Germany mistaken. Again they are. angy has to look for alternatives. mr schroeder paved the way and she is doing the harvest. ;) it damn looks like in the middle of 20th century.. ;)

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Dec 7, 11, 22:43 #264
Wroclaw: Please keep to the topic: MORE ANTI-POLISH SENTIMENT IN GERMANY Pane, please. What we see is that topic develop horizontally and vertically, as i likes to say

NatasaThreads: 7 Posts: 2,607 Joined: Jun 6, 10 MEMBER ♀	Dec 7, 11, 22:54 #265
Crow: topic develop horizontally and vertically, you forgot diagonally, tangentially, radially... There are many ways to address this question. Mr Grunwald: Calm down, breath! A few more steppes and your closer to be called a Pole :) Poles do that too? :)) You say unification I say mummification...;)))) stop the earth i want to get off

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Edited by: Crow Dec 7, 11, 22:59 #266
Natasa: you forgot diagonally, tangentially, radially... yes, yes. :)

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Dec 7, 11, 23:05 #267
The Germans have no real reason to be anti-Polish. The problems may begin in earnest when the Antifa movement grows and the Polish right wing looks to stamp them out.

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