NATO prepares for Nuclear war

hairballThreads: 34 Posts: 770 Joined: Dec 16, 07 ♂	Jan 22, 08, 07:24 #1
I am of the opinion that a Nuclear war is un-winable. Is it right that NATO thinks that pre-emptive stikes are "Justified"? Nato 'must prepare to launch nuclear attack'

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Jan 22, 08, 08:58 #2

No and I do not believe that Nato would do this in the first place. You are right that nuclear was is un winable and that is why the Soviet Union protected its East European satellite states for so long after the end of World War 2 as it saw possible aggression from the United States. The Soviet Union produced a huge arsenal of munitions but it was only for protective purposes and not for aggression, it would be totally against the will of the Soviet people otherwise. It was this huge quantity of munitions that bankrupted the Soviet Union. People do not realize what a huge drain on resources it is and how much even the maintenance of the Berlin Wall was in protecting Poland and East Germany from a joint American and British invasion after they (Poland and East Germany) had voted for Communist Governments after the end of the last war in Europe in 1945.

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,892 Joined: May 17, 07 ♂	Jan 22, 08, 09:09 #3
The absolute guarantee for a country's independance are the nuclear weapons.Extension of their use means that NATO will become unable to launch air strikes in some cases.

Shawn_H	Jan 22, 08, 09:11 #4
Michal wrote: the Soviet Union protected its East European satellite states I always thought the Soviets preferred to have an expendable buffer of land and people between the "West" and the beloved homeland.

MichalThreads: - Posts: 2,408 Joined: Feb 27, 07 ♂	Jan 22, 08, 09:39 #5
They did. That is why they allowed Poland to expand westwards by stealing parts of Germany and in return Russia accepted parts of the former Poland leaving more room in the East

celinskiThreads: 83 Posts: 2,800 Joined: Nov 14, 07 ♀	Jan 22, 08, 12:52 #6
Lets see what was said on Sat. Russia ready to use nuclear weapons if threatened - army chief 14:01 \| 19/ 01/ 2008 MOSCOW, January 19 (RIA Novosti) - Russia's top military commander said on Saturday that the country is prepared to use its nuclear weapons to defend itself and allies in the event of a severe external threat. http://en.rian.ru/russia/20080119/97339084.html

BubbaWooThreads: 46 Posts: 4,438 Joined: Sep 26, 06 ♂	Edited by: BubbaWoo Jan 22, 08, 13:07 #7
i was in the pub the other day quietly sipping my beer when a man walked in... so i jumped up and beat him to death with an ashtray... just in case he accidently spilt my pint... actually thats a lie - im english and dont believe in this pre-emptive strike bollox

CrowThreads: 365 Posts: 7,189 Joined: Feb 14, 07 ♂	Jan 22, 08, 14:11 #8
hairball wrote: NATO prepares for Nuclear war yes, unfortunately i believe so From long time ago i concluded that NATO is terrorist organization

isthatuThreads: 4 Posts: 1,627 Joined: Jun 8, 07 ♂	Jan 22, 08, 14:27 #9
I should hope it does prepare for it,if it didnt prepare for it it would be a kinda crap defence organisation.

CrowThreads: 365 Posts: 7,189 Joined: Feb 14, 07 ♂	Jan 22, 08, 14:37 #10
philosophically, bomb is designed to explode

isthatuThreads: 4 Posts: 1,627 Joined: Jun 8, 07 ♂	Jan 22, 08, 14:41 #11
philisophically bomb is designed not to have to explode but just have the potential to do so

celinskiThreads: 83 Posts: 2,800 Joined: Nov 14, 07 ♀	Jan 22, 08, 14:48 #12
isthatu wrote: philisophically bomb is designed philisophically bomb is designed to remove occupants from area bomb hits.

MichalThreads: - Posts: 2,408 Joined: Feb 27, 07 ♂	Jan 22, 08, 14:55 #13
I think it highly unlikely that Russia has any desires to fire bombs on anybody. Also, during the Cold War there were plenty of rockets in Poland directed against British cities. The Polish too, given the chance would have 'blown England out of the water'. Strange really considering the number of the buggers using us for their pocket money now!!

isthatuThreads: 4 Posts: 1,627 Joined: Jun 8, 07 ♂	Jan 22, 08, 15:01 #14
True,russia is hardly likely to want to bomb its second home,london,the russians have so much invested in the UK and vice versa all this hot air and bluster is nothing more than nostalgia for anyone over 30 :)

paczkaThreads: 1 Posts: 113 Joined: Dec 28, 07 ♂	Jan 22, 08, 16:11 #15
isthatu wrote: the russians have so much invested in the UK and vice versa all this hot air and bluster is nothing more than nostalgia for anyone over 30 :) What if Roma wants to clear some area for his new dog house in london? ;)

isthatuThreads: 4 Posts: 1,627 Joined: Jun 8, 07 ♂	Jan 22, 08, 16:16 #16
frikin oligarch bandit enemy of the people ;)

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Edited by: polishcanuck Jan 22, 08, 16:16 #17

A nuclear war will almost certainly mean the death of our planet. In such an event i hope a nuclear warhead lands on my home so that i won't have to suffer to death from radiation poisoning. Terribly painful death btw.

Michal wrote:

They did. That is why they allowed Poland to expand westwards by stealing parts of Germany and in return Russia accepted parts of the former Poland leaving more room in the East

Allowed? The soviets forced this change. Millions of poles were deported from the kresy to what is now W. Poland. Skurwysynie. And communism was imposed on poland by the ruskies, not voted. S.hit, you're one stupid f.uck.

CrowThreads: 365 Posts: 7,189 Joined: Feb 14, 07 ♂	Edited by: Crow Jan 22, 08, 16:32 #18
isthatu wrote: philisophically bomb is designed not to have to explode but just have the potential to do so plus to boost economy and plus degeneracy isthatu wrote: russians have so much invested in the UK sure. Brits are claver. Attract Russian investments to be hostages in London and then provoke bah, all that effort and just one little bigger flood and bye bye Londres

isthatuThreads: 4 Posts: 1,627 Joined: Jun 8, 07 ♂	Edited by: isthatu Jan 22, 08, 16:38 #19
Crow wrote: sure. Brits are claver. and by your logic Russians are dumb shmucks for falling for this evil british ploy...... Crow wrote: one little bigger flood and bye bye Londres yes,and one more little massacre of civilians and bye bye belgrade,remember we whupped you before and we were only tickling.

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Jan 22, 08, 16:46 #20

isthatu wrote:

all this hot air and bluster is nothing more than nostalgia for anyone over 30 :)

This is funny, hot air and bluster. I'm bang on 30 so sitting on the fence, over 30 in a sense and not in the other (I'm not 31 just yet). I can't bring myself to say I could swing both ways on this one, hehehe. In the words of a great Brit Shakespeare, much ado about nothing. Russia will not have their way with NATO

isthatuThreads: 4 Posts: 1,627 Joined: Jun 8, 07 ♂	Jan 22, 08, 16:53 #21
Seanus wrote: great Brit Shakespeare, no,according to the latest research he was actually władimir Shakespearski from lwow.....

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Jan 22, 08, 17:01 #22
Yeah, that was throughski the grapevineski. I'm offski to another threadski, how poetic that sounds, NOT

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Jan 22, 08, 17:05 #23

isthatu wrote:

Crow wrote:
sure. Brits are claver.

and buy yur logic Russians are dumb shmucks for falling for this evil british ploy......

sometimes they are, yes

isthatu wrote:

yes,and one more little massacre of civilians and bye bye belgrade,remember we whupped you before and we were only tickling,wait till the cruise missiles are really flying down your war hungry high streets.

i would disregard your insulting tone, manifestation of your primitive character

Serbs were first attacked, in open and propaganda war. So called west (following Germany) arranged whole disaster and in chaos that occurred people suffered on all sides.

What is most important, those who committed genocide and crimes on Serbs were deluded with ideology of genocide and their crimes had ideological/institutional background. Especial responsibility of NATO, `western` leaders is that bearers of such a ideology against Serbs were greatly supported and encouraged. Crimes, if committed by some Serbs regularly were crimes of criminals, criminal groups of black market, mafia. Or there were cases of obvious ravage on enemy but saying that i don`t say that it was right but, there were cases its a fact. We are aware that some crimes were committed by some Serbs and Serbian public, state and system of justice persecuted/condemn that. Those are individual crimes and we are able to deal with our own scum.

But, just wait Brits (English). You wan`t escape from justice and when justice found you, let`s hope that it won`t be justice of double standards which you proposed for Serbs.

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07 ♂	Jan 22, 08, 17:09 #24
Crow wrote: But, just wait Brits (English). The Scots are innocent. The Welsh are innocent. The Cornish are innocent. The Cumbrians(!) are innocent. The English... GUILTY AS SIN!!!!!!!!!

isthatuThreads: 4 Posts: 1,627 Joined: Jun 8, 07 ♂	Jan 22, 08, 17:12 #25
Crow wrote: i would disregard your insulting tone, manifestation of your primitive character wasnt my countrymen murdering teenage boys and old men in Srebrinica so,lets review my "primitive" status shall we...........

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Edited by: Crow Jan 22, 08, 17:19 #26

osiol wrote:

Crow wrote:
But, just wait Brits (English).

The Scots are innocent.
The Welsh are innocent.
The Cornish are innocent.
The Cumbrians(!) are innocent.
The English... GUILTY AS SIN!!!!!!!!!

BDW, did you heard what said Ser Shon Connery (known as 007) on Kosovo situation? English, Scottish situation? Masses of Hollywood actors (Sharon Stone, Richard Gere, George Clooney, etc) arise in Serbian defense. Time of England has really passed. This what they done to us (anti-Serbian propaganda, supported genocide/ethnical cleansing of Serbs, sending mujaheedines on Serbian children, bombardment), together with Germans is their final moral downfall

Scots are beautiful. Scordiscs won`t forget their support in these times. Lets` hope they would be free from English oppression soon.

isthatuThreads: 4 Posts: 1,627 Joined: Jun 8, 07 ♂	Jan 22, 08, 17:21 #27
Well this Scot doesnt fall for your self pitying serbian garbage,punish your own,my arse ,as far as you lot are concerned slobo is/was some kind of hereo....Admit your country was responsible for the horror and more people may believe what you have to say,dont,and you sound as stupid as a german blaming a nigerian for ww2.

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Jan 22, 08, 17:24 #28

Crow wrote:

English, Scottish situation?

England runs Scotland with a pretend Scottish-premier and with pretend Scottish cabinet ministers. The Scots don't get a vote, despite having two parliaments because we English control them, along with our German mates.

Crow wrote:

Scots are beautiful

Especially the ones who went to the Balkans a few years ago.

Crow wrote:

This what they done to us

Not content with controlling Scotland with our brutal military regime, we want more more MORE.

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Edited by: Crow Jan 22, 08, 17:27 #29

osiol wrote:

Crow wrote:
Scots are beautiful

Especially the ones who went to the Balkans a few years ago.

i heard about issue where they refused to fight against Serbs, on the behalf of Muslims

isthatu wrote:

Well this Scot doesnt fall for your self pitying serbian garbage,punish your own,my arse ,as far as you lot are concerned slobo is/was some kind of hereo....Admit your country was responsible for the horror and more people may believe what you have to say,dont,and you sound as stupid as a german blaming a nigerian for ww2.

go, tell that to Ser Shon Connery and to other Hollywood actors (for example). Convince him/them

You think that they don`t have way to get authentic and real informations from terrain? They know situation very well

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Jan 22, 08, 17:31 #30

bollox you did. In case you hadnt noticed British/Scots whatever soldiers were there under the blue helmets,they wernt there to "fight against Serbs, on the behalf of Muslims" or to fight anyone on behalf of anyone else,you really are showing your true colours as a parrot fasion propaganda mouthpiece.....which grubby little serbian govt dept do you work for?Crucified any Croation pensioners lately?

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