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David_18Threads: 111
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A wooden barrack at the former German Nazi concentration camp Majdanek in present-day eastern Poland was nearly completely destroyed by fire on Tuesday. The building was full of shoes of the victims of the forced labor camp.

http://blogs.wsj.com/new-europe/2010/08/10/part-of-nazi-camp-majdanek- goes-up-in-flames/

Brief history about Majdanek
Majdanek was a German Nazi concentration camp on the outskirts of Lublin, Poland, established during German Nazi occupation of Poland. The camp operated from October 1, 1941 until July 22, 1944, when it was captured nearly intact by the advancing Soviet Red Army. Although conceived as a forced labor camp and not as an extermination camp, over 79,000 people died there (59,000 of them Polish Jews) during the 34 months of its operation.

This is indeed a sad day for the relatives of the ones who died there.

The ovens where the Germans burned some of their victims
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plk123Threads: 30
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David_18:

This is indeed a sad day for the relatives of the ones who died there.

why is that? the monument of their torture is finally gone.. maybe they are happy at last, no?
dtaylor5632Threads: 48
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plk123:
why is that?

Yeah, I wondered about that too. :/
David_18Threads: 111
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plk123:
why is that? the monument of their torture is finally gone.. maybe they are happy at last, no?


It's a monument to remember the ones who died there. But i guess you don't care about the thousands who died there....
sobieskiThreads: 80
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IS you must be extremely happy this happened
aphrodisiacThreads: 19
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Only one building got burnt, not the whole place btw.
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plk123:
why is that? the monument of their torture is finally gone.. maybe they are happy at last, no?


Maybe someone should drive a large dumper truck through washington and destroy the war memorial? Why would anyone want to be reminded of such death?

David_18:
It's a monument to remember the ones who died there. But i guess you don't care about the thousands who died there....


Exactly, these things stand to remind us of the past and why it should never happen again.
pgtxThreads: 48
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Amathyst:
washington and destroy the war memorial?

which one? lol DC is full of memorials...
NorthMancPolakThreads: 6
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pgtx:
which one? lol DC is full of memorials...


It won't be after someone's driven that large dumper truck through it, lol ;)

David_18:
It's a monument to remember the ones who died there. But i guess you don't care about the thousands who died there....


It wasn't that long ago that you were complaining that there were too many Jewish threads on here.

David_18:
This is indeed a sad day for the relatives of the ones who died there.


Indeed, as long as you weren't being sarcastic.

Amathyst:
Exactly, these things stand to remind us of the past and why it should never happen again.


Exactly. But I'm waiting to see how long it takes for Crow to turn this into a Serbian thread ;)
IronsideThreads: 56
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sobieski:
IS you must be extremely happy this happened

Happy? Well, I don't cry because of this.Who are you troll? What is your recent user name?

Come clean if you are not a coward !
David_18Threads: 111
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NorthMancPolak:
It wasn't that long ago that you were complaining that there were too many Jewish threads on here.


Well the thread i made was about jewish history, something that most poles should be proud of.

It was you guys who got it offtopic just cuz it was "to many jewish threads"

NorthMancPolak:
Indeed, as long as you weren't being sarcastic.

Seriously i think you got me on the wrong foot. I seriously like jews, and im very fascinated by the jewish heritage we got in Poland.

To bad the germans destroyed it...

NorthMancPolak:
Exactly. But I'm waiting to see how long it takes for Crow to turn this into a Serbian thread ;)

Nothing wrong with Crows pro slavic statements. We should be proud to have a Slavic historian like crow here on this forum.
NorthMancPolakThreads: 6
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David_18:

It was you guys who got it offtopic just cuz it was "to many jewish threads"


Er, no it wasn't...

polishforums.com/off-topic-lounge-47/juden-44626/

David_18:
Since everyone of you here seems to be so absest about jews, i thought maybe a History lesson would feed your fetishism about the jews.


:p

David_18:
Seriously i think you got me on the wrong foot. I seriously like jews, and im very fascinated by the jewish heritage we got in Poland.

To bad the germans destroyed it...


Fair comment ;)

David_18:
Nothing wrong with Crows pro slavic statements. We should be proud to have a Slavic historian like crow here on this forum.


Maybe, but he's completely lost it on the Falklands issue!
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NorthMancPolak:
Er, no it wasn't...

polishforums.com/off-topic-lounge-47/juden-44626/


Ok maybe i was wrong with my topic line "juden". But i did it more to get attention to the thread.

NorthMancPolak:
:p

A history lesson about the jews in Poland, and not only about the sad part about what happend to them during the nazi occupation is something that many non poles needs to learn to understand why poles get's very offended about the ignorance in many history books about jews in Poland. Not so fun for the poles to hear same **** over over and over again how bad the nazis and some poles treated the jews bla bla bla.

What about all the history we share togheter?

NorthMancPolak:
Maybe, but he's completely lost it on the Falklands issue!

Maybe so, but i find some of his threads and post for that matter very interresting.
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David_18:
It's a monument to remember the ones who died there. But i guess you don't care about the thousands who died there....

Amathyst:

Maybe someone should drive a large dumper truck through washington and destroy the war memorial? Why would anyone want to be reminded of such death?

this was not a memorial.. this was the place of death and torture.. a memorial would be a plaque or something..

Amathyst:
Exactly, these things stand to remind us of the past and why it should never happen again.

and yet they do.. so, are these "memorials" really doing anything?

David_18:
Not so fun for the poles to hear same **** over over and over again how bad the nazis and some poles treated the jews bla bla bla.

is it not the truth

David_18:
What about all the history we share togheter?

they don't share it with us.. why do we have to share it with them?
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plk123:
this was not a memorial.. this was the place of death and torture.. a memorial would be a plaque or something..


Does it matter?

plk123:
and yet they do.. so, are these "memorials" really doing anything?

Yes they make sure people remember and wont forget about the past.

plk123:
is it not the truth

It is indeed the truth. But why only bring up the bad stuff and not some positive stuff about the jewish heritage in Poland?

Yea lets only talk about the negative stuff here on this forum!!!!!!!!!!!!

plk123:
they don't share it with us.. why do we have to share it with them?

It's because of people like you that poles will keep on being narrow minded and live in their little "bubble".
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Its good to destroy such things but not just in Poland but everywhere on the planet.

Try to promote peace and love.


Regards,
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David_18:
plk123:
and yet they do.. so, are these "memorials" really doing anything?

Yes they make sure people remember and wont forget about the past.

my point is that even though we have plenty of memorials and people may seem to remember, ethnic cleansing and other mass murders still keep happening..

David_18:
It's because of people like you that poles will keep on being narrow minded and live in their little "bubble".

people like me? you have no clue

David_18:

It is indeed the truth. But why only bring up the bad stuff and not some positive stuff about the jewish heritage in Poland?

the point was that the jews don't and i am wondering why then the poles have to.. hmm
SeanusThreads: 22
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Sobieski is jarnowa, I believe.

Anyway, there are enough reminders of what happened but we should keep such places if we can. They serve a highly useful purpose.
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plk123:
why is that? the monument of their torture is finally gone.. maybe they are happy at last, no?

No they are not as my wife's grandmother was in there for two years and she and others wish that it left as a memorial to the friends that they lost.

plk123:
people like me? you have no clue


I'm afraid my friend it is you who has no clue.
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ukpolska:
I'm afraid my friend it is you who has no clue.

lol.. u're 2 funny.. wtf?

ukpolska:
No they are not as my wife's grandmother was in there for two years and she and others wish that it left as a memorial to the friends that they lost.


1 in how many thousands?
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plk123
I think she knows a lot more about it than you will ever understand!
Now show a little respect for her and many like her who meet each year at Majdanek to remember their lost friends.
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how am i not showing respect.. wtf? i can't have my opinion? you must have some weird understanding of freedom of speech.. hmm
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i agree with plk, as much as we should all remember what happened, it's a bit like keeping the demons of the past alive. it hurts just to look at these walls...
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JustysiaS:
i agree with plk, as much as we should all remember what happened, it's a bit like keeping the demons of the past alive. it hurts just to look at these walls...

Ok then let us start removing all memorials shall we?
Let us start with the one in Katyn and then we can move on to the ones in Wawel.
Hmm, going by that logic is just plain simpleton isn't it !!!

Good to see Poles care so much about their history or should we customise it to suit it better to the sensitive’s' of today?
History is what it is, good or bad, and shouldn’t be changed in any form whatsoever and at every opportunity we should preserve it for our children and future generations of Pole’s.
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ukpolska:
Ok then let us start removing all memorials shall we?


memorials built to commemorate things that happened in hisotry are perfectly fine by me, according to this logic the americans should have left the ruins of WTC. my point is, man made memorials such as chapels or gardens would be a better place for people to grieve than the leftovers of a living nightmare where so many perished for nothing. concentration camps are places of pure evil and hatred and they should be destroyed, i don't think it's disrespectful towards people who died there at all, we will always remember them.
sobieskiThreads: 80
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IS and the cross freaks would like to remove any memory to any Polish jew
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sobieski:
cross freaks would like to remove any memory to any Polish jew


it's got nothing to do with jews, why is everybody over there still so paranoid about the jews? a lot of Poles died there too.
sobieskiThreads: 80
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It has to do with the fact that the Cross freaks think that Jews are not Polish.
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well i can assure you i ain't one of them
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JustysiaS have you been to Majdanek?
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