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 Sep 12, 11, 17:45    #1
A Jewish cemetery in eastern Poland has been vandalised just weeks after survivors groups urged the Polish authorities to take action against the rising tide of anti-Jewish sentiment.

http://www.thejc.com/news/world-news/54569/jewish-memorial-poland-defa ced-swastika

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Edited by: MyMom  Sep 12, 11, 18:21    #2
Wouldn't it be easier to move all Jewish cemeteries from Poland to Israel? Just what Yad Vashem did with the walls with Bruno Schultz drawings on them. Only this time we wouldn't object.
I seriously don't see a point of having Jewish cemeteries in city centers, other than allowing David Miliband to look up his ancestors. Catholic graves are liquidated when no one takes care of them. Why should Polish taxpayers pay for the maintainance of Jewish cementaries, when there are clearly no Jews to look after them?
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 Sep 12, 11, 18:25    #3
How do we know that these people were "neo Nazis" not a common jerks?
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 Sep 12, 11, 18:25    #4
MyMom
why should Polish taxpayers pay for the maintainance of Jewish cementaries

If they do pay, the money is clearly being stolen by the people who are paid to do the work. I've got numerous photos of Jewish cemeteries which are very clearly not maintained in any way, shape or form. The only ones I've seen which are maintained are done so either at private expense or as voluntary projects by local groups (e.g. the high school at Izbica takes some care of the Jewish cemetery there).

But why let truth get in the way of an opportunity to post yet more of your anti-semitic bile?
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 Sep 12, 11, 18:26    #5
Why should Polish taxpayers pay for the maintainance of Jewish cementaries, when there are clearly no Jews to look after them?

Why are there no Jews to look after them?
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 Sep 12, 11, 18:27    #6
neo nazis desecerate Jewish graves in Bialstok

how crazy, when Hitler himself- founder of the Nazi movement, possible was a Jew. Technically
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 Sep 12, 11, 18:34    #7
I've got numerous photos of Jewish cemeteries

So not only you are watching people in front of synagouges, you are also collecting photos of Jewish cemeteries... How peculariar. Do you do something remotely useful for Jewish people by the way, apart from trolling Polish forums?
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 Sep 12, 11, 18:44    #8
MyMom
not only you are watching people in front of synagouges,

No matter how many times you repeat your lies, they still don't become true: but repeatedly telling them does underline again and again how stupid you are.

MyMom
you are also collecting photos of Jewish cemeteries.

No, I'm researching Aktion Reinhard with a particular focus on Aktion Erntefest. Jewish cemeteries tend to feature in both (although less so in Erntefest).

MyMom
Do you do something remotely useful for Jewish people by the way, apart from trolling Polish forums?

In what way would trolling Polish forums be useful to Jewish people at all? Oh, sorry, you're just displaying your anti-semitism yet again.

Yes thanks, I do do volunteer work for both the Auschwitz foundation and the museum of the history of Polish Jews (although not as much as I would like to do).
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 Sep 12, 11, 18:45    #9
Do you do something remotely useful for Jewish people by the way, apart from trolling Polish forums?

Some perverse Jews actually see this trolling by PWEI as useful, because by claiming that Poland, the former home of the majority of world Jewery, is anti-Semitic they thereby feel they have justified their usurpation of Palestine and their brutal treatment of the Palestinians by making it the Poles fault.
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 Sep 12, 11, 18:50    #10
world Jewery

its Tacitus one thread and David Duke the next...............well,I suppose its one definition of widly read......
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 Sep 12, 11, 18:51    #11
by claiming that Poland, the former home of the majority of world Jewery, is anti-Semitic

Could you perhaps link to any post in which I say that Poland is anti-semitic? No, of course you can't. You can't because you are lying when you claim that I did say that. Clearly you are still all butthurt about me repeatedly pointing out that you are nothing more than a pseudo-intellectual who doesn't even know the name of the person he claims is his favourite author.

their usurpation of Palestine and their brutal treatment of the Palestinians by making it the Poles fault.

Nicely done! You turn, within just nine posts, a thread about desecration of Jewish graves into an opportunity to post the racist filth that you specialise in. It is such a pity that you aren't even half as good at being an intellectual as you are at being a racist.
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 Sep 12, 11, 18:52    #12
Is "Jewery" a racist term?
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 Sep 12, 11, 18:53    #13
Jewery

Jewry, surely.
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 Sep 12, 11, 18:56    #14
Jewry, surely.

Depends if you spell it the pseudo-intellectual way or not.
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 Sep 12, 11, 18:57    #15
In what way would trolling Polish forums be useful to Jewish people at all?

No, it's not. Playing Jews against Poles and vice versa is however a common tactics of western Jew haters, who in public pose as friends of the Jews.

Yes thanks, I do do volunteer work for both the Auschwitz foundation and the museum of the history of Polish Jews (although not as much as I would like to do).

Do you mind if I drop those institutions a hint that a man is working for them who said that Poles orchestrated Holocaust? That would make a nice news story as well.

No matter how many times you repeat your lies, they still don't become true: but repeatedly telling them does underline again and again how stupid you are.

So you lied about watching Poles in front of synagouges? Why did you lie then?
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Edited by: Moderator  Sep 12, 11, 18:59    #16
Could you perhaps link to any post in which I say that Poland is anti-semitic? No, of course you can't. You can't because you are lying when you claim that I did say that.

Here is something you just wrote today in another thread started by Somerset post #59:
I don't know even a single British person here who would give a shiit about whether a person is Jewish or not. Which is more than I can say for the Poles I know here.

doesn't even know the name of the person he claims is his favourite author.

I never claimed Joris Huysmanns is my favorite author you stupid liar.
racist filth

That Palestine was usurped and that the Palestinians are treated brutally by the usurpers is a fact and your claiming that pointing out this fact is racist shows that it is you, PWEI, who is the racist not I.

A last reminder that this thread is about "graves"
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 Sep 12, 11, 19:07    #17
treated brutally by the usurpers is a fact and your claiming that pointing out this fact is racist shows that it is you, PWEI, who is the racist not I.

I say dear boy, shall I pass thee the gauntlet so you can thrash this ruffian but once upon his impertinent bonce and thussly call him to a Duel of honour neath ye olde spreading chestnut tree on the morrow?
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Edited by: PWEI  Sep 12, 11, 19:09    #18
MyMom
Do you mind if I drop those institutions a hint that a man is working for them who said that Poles orchestrated Holocaust? That would make a nice news story as well.

Of course you are free to do that. But given that you can't link to even a single statement of mine which says that Poles orchestrated the Holocaust, it would be rather unwise for you to do it. It would be about as unwise as desecrating Jewish graves. In fact it would be even more unwise, given that you would be a lot easier to catch: it would not be easy for you to hide.

MyMom
So you lied about watching Poles in front of synagouges? Why did you lie then?

Kindly link to a post in which I said that I did that or withdraw your lie.


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Joris Huysmanns

Joris Huysmanns? Never heard of him. Did he design graves for Jews?
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Edited by: Moderator  Sep 12, 11, 19:11    #19
In fact it would be even more unwise, given that you would be a lot easier to catch: it would not be easy for you to hide.

yeah,watch it fella, Shin Bet are after you now !!!!! :)

Please stop trolling, or you're out!
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 Sep 12, 11, 19:26    #20
neo nazis desecerate Jewish graves in Bialstok

now it happened there. i really do not get what is so 'special' about that. it happens everywhere in europe the same thing. there is no rule for 'where, when, why...'.

there are simply enough idiots without respect.
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 Sep 12, 11, 19:47    #21
A last reminder that this thread is about "graves"


The title may well be about "graves", but the subtext is clearly "Let's start another trolling thread which is likely to antagonise Poles and those interested in Polish culture".

Every thread he's started seems to rapidly fill-up with lies about Poland and Poles, Jewish or otherwise. It's simply "Pole-baiting", make no mistake. Never mind Białystok, he's behaving like he originates from that world-renowned centre of genetic variety, Bridgwater :)

Best thing we can do is put him on "Ignore"; well, that's what I'm going to do anyway lol ;)
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 Sep 12, 11, 20:13    #22
My ancestors lie in Biyalstok , do not defecate on their memory.
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 Sep 12, 11, 20:32    #23
My ancestors lie in Biyalstok , do not defecate on their memory.


you can't even spell the name correctly - this is how close you feel to the place ;P
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 Sep 12, 11, 20:49    #24
you can't even spell the name correctly - this is how close you feel to the place ;P


lol, pwned!

He can give it out but he can't take it - it's clearly OK for him to "defecate on the memory" of non-Jewish Poles, but once someone criticises him.... he gets "upset" :)
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 Sep 12, 11, 20:55    #25
've got numerous photos of Jewish cemeteries which are very clearly not maintained in any way, shape or form.


If you're ever down that way, there's an interesting one in Lesko - not maintained at all.

http://riowang.blogspot.com/2010/08/lesko-jewish-cemetery.html

If they do pay, the money is clearly being stolen by the people who are paid to do the work.


I'm almost certain there's no public money going to maintain them - I've never seen one that looked like any sort of public cash was being spent on them. They're like the Red Army graveyards, just being left to rot.
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 Sep 12, 11, 21:15    #26
That is new low even for Jews they vandalize own cemetery just so they can accused and attack Poland
Jews should be ashamed for the Zionist actions not just in Poland but everywhere
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 Sep 12, 11, 21:43    #27
That is new low even for Jews they vandalize own cemetery just so they can accused and attack Poland
Jews should be ashamed for the Zionist actions not just in Poland but everywhere

Two warnings from mods that people should stay on topic and not troll this thread are followed by the above post. Well mods, are you going to do anything about people ignoring your clear repeated instructions or would you prefer to have posts about how Poles buried Jews they'd killed in the forest at Katyn and then claimed the corpses were Polish officers who had actually run away to the USA instead of fighting?
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 Sep 12, 11, 21:49    #28
=enkidu]How do we know that these people were "neo Nazis" not a common jerks?

Or that it wasn`t a provocation by guys who want to flame Polish Jewish relations?
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 Sep 12, 11, 21:53    #29
They're like the Red Army graveyards, just being left to rot.

Most of the times your posts are well balanced but you sometimes surprise me Delph. What you just said is an outright lie. Why did you say that? There are many Red Army cemeteries in Poland, taken good care of.

There is even one in the city of Poznań, where you claim to have lived for years. Yes, it is not in the greatest shape, but far from being in a rotten state. And I have seen pictures of fresh flowers on many of the Russian graves in Poznan Citadel.

Russians want to finance the renovation of sepulchral stele, the stairs leading to the Citadel and the monument overlooking the Citadel. Wielkopolska Voivod is favorable to this initiative. Renovation work should begin later this year.

http://alehistoria.blox.pl/2011/07/ROSJA-WYREMONTUJE-CMENTARZ-ARMII-CZ ERWONEJ-W.html

Warszawa:
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cmentarz_Mauzoleum_Żołnierzy_Radzieckich
Katowice:
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cmentarz_Żołnierzy_Armii_Czerwonej_w_Kato wicach
Subcarpatian Voivodship, Rymanów:
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/41329983
Wrocław:
http://wikimapia.org/56097/pl/Cmentarz-Oficerów-Armii-Radzieckiej

See also the article:
Graves of Soviet Army soldiers who died in Poland in World War II:
http://www.radaopwim.gov.pl/article_details/12/groby-zolnierzy-armii-r adzieckiej-poleglych-w-polsce-w-ii-wojnie-swiatowej/
There are pictures of many well taken care of Russian cemeteries:
Cybinka, Wolsztyn, Wrocław-Krzyki, Warszawa, Grądy, Sosna-Kozółki, Pułtusk-Kleczewo, Biała-Podlaska, Podnieśno-Suchożebry
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 Sep 12, 11, 22:35    #30
I'm researching Aktion Retard

That is a very suitable Action for you to research, good boy.

do not defecate on their memory.

I would not even defaecate on you, you would have liked too much.
A New/old troll - how unsurprising.


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