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Jan 16, 10, 13:55 #1

The ruling Civic Platform (PO) is proposing a new constituion which would weaken the president's veto powerr and effectively reduce him to the role of a figurehead. The PM would becone a chancellor-like figure after the German model.
The opposition Law and Justice (PiS) is proposing a stronger presidency, similar to the French model with elements of the Polish 1935 Constitution.
Which solution do you feel is best for the Polish people?

stodwadziescia3	Jan 24, 10, 23:04 #2
you know, i don't get it why we need two dudes getting their panties in a wad.. i like the amrican model but i do like the 6y term limit..

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Jan 24, 10, 23:27 #3

Polonius3:

The ruling Civic Platform (PO) is proposing a new constituion which would weaken the president's veto powerr and effectively reduce him to the role

Then there should be monarchy.

Polonius3:

The opposition Law and Justice (PiS) is proposing a stronger presidency, similar to the French model with elements of the Polish 1935 Constitution.

why French model? What;s wrong with American model?

To be honest the most important are details rather then stronger or weaker president.

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Jan 24, 10, 23:51 #4

Ironside:

why French model? What;s wrong with American model?

The American model has problems in that the President can't effectively represent America properly - as anything he agrees has to go through Congress. If I'm right, the French system allows their President to agree what he damn well pleases.

Maybe the more sensible system would be to force the President to be re-elected along with the Sejm and Senat? Get rid of the 2nd round, bring in STV for voting for President and voila.

Then again, I don't think there's much wrong with the Polish system - the seperation of powers needs to be more clearly defined, but there's nothing wrong with having a President with a veto - Klaus in the Czech Republic certainly did his job properly.

IronsideThreads: 59 Posts: 6,786 Joined: Feb 26, 09 ♂	Jan 25, 10, 00:31 #5
delphiandomine: Then again I think that the issue of the powerful president or president with less power, is secondary to the issue of the political system and the way this system works.

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