new mosque in Warsaw

McCoyThreads: 46 Posts: 1,756 Joined: Jul 3, 08 ♂	Feb 25, 10, 12:44 #1
for 11 000 mutherfcukers. they are out of their minds up there in Warsaw. money comes from saudi investor.

ArienThreads: 6 Posts: 1,604 Joined: Oct 20, 08 ♂	Feb 25, 10, 12:53 #2
It doesn't really look like a Mosque though.. :)

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Feb 25, 10, 13:37 #3

McCoy:

cause its gonna be also bomb factory and meeting pleace for the terrorists

It looks like some kind of a hybrid cross-over between a church and a company office really. Very arty! I bet it's expensive. I'm curious to see how many people will actually grab their spraycans though, to spice up the whole design a little! It does look a bit tranquil, maybe a bit too dull, don't you think?

Oh well, I can only hope that the next or second generation will become Atheïsts aswell, or atleast not as fanatical as their parents seem to be..

:)

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Feb 25, 10, 16:45 #4

McCoy:

for 11 000 mutherfcukers. they are out of their minds up there in Warsaw. money comes from saudi investor.

Then it will be full of radicals, they teach a different brand of Islam...Bye bye Poland as we knew it...you'll have one on every street corner in 10 years time...

http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/dispatches/undercover+mosque+the +return/2436087

banderias:

wish to see native polish-muslim youth in future.

lol..Poland is a Catholic country, not going to change any time soon thank goodness! I wish to win the lottery, again, not going to happen any time soon!

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Feb 25, 10, 16:51 #5

banderias:

el-hamd-ul-allah

Unga-unga-bongo-bongo.

banderias:

that beatiful country is going on to be much more beatiful.. :)

It is a beautiful country, all right. An ugly mosque won't make it any more beautiful though.
Quite the contrary I'd say. There's no point introducing objects completely alien to our
culture, civilization and ethos.

banderias:

i wish the same for beatiful poznan insa-allah.

We spell Poznań with a capital "P", umpa-umpa.

banderias:

wish to see native polish-muslim youth in future.

Don't count on it. This is not Western Europe where people bend down and ask you
to f**k them. This is Poland - so you better keep your heads down, camelfcukers.

Sorry for sounding a little bit rude maybe, but I don't take kindly to mosques
being built in a country that was the antemurale of Christianity for centuries.

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Feb 25, 10, 17:01 #6

Torq:

Don't count on it. This is not Western Europe where people bend down and ask you to f**k them.

Excuse me, but we're not asking for anything.

Torq:

Sorry for sounding a little bit rude maybe, but I don't take kindly to mosques
being built in a country that was the antemurale of Christianity for centuries.

Oh really? Well, you should use your grey matter then and vote for an Atheïst the next time you will have elections, because it's the Christian leaders in Europe who make this happen, and no one else. Just so you know.

;)

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Edited by: jonni Feb 25, 10, 17:02 #7

Arien:

It doesn't really look like a Mosque though..

True, but it's good architecture.

szarlotka:

I intend to open up a chain of pig farms in ... Riyadh

Let us know how you get on. Or maybe we'll just watch the video.

banderias:

wish to see native polish-muslim youth in future

You can see it already. There have been Polish Muslims for hundreds of years. A couple of Mosques here are seventeenth century buildings.

Torq:

There's no point introducing objects completely alien to our
culture, civilization and ethos

See above.

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Edited by: Torq Feb 25, 10, 17:04 #8

Arien:

Excuse me, but we're not asking for anything.

Well, excuse me - but it really looks like you do (your governments at least).

Arien:

because it's the Christian leaders in Europe who make this happen, and no one else.

Christian leaders in Europe? Name one Christian leader in Europe who encourages muslim
immigration to our continent. Or better still - name one Christian leader in Europe :-)

jonni:

There have been Polish Muslims for hundreds of years. A couple of Mosques here are seventeenth century buildings.

Tatars? They're decent folks - never heard of any Tatar beheading a journalist
or burying his daughter alive (well - not recently at least :-))
Plus - they are perfectly assimilated into Polish culture, you can't say that about
muslims in western Europe.

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,968 Joined: Nov 10, 06 ♀	Feb 25, 10, 18:25 #9
jonni: There have been Polish Muslims for hundreds of years. A couple of Mosques here are seventeenth century buildings. Integrated and consider themselves Polish, they dont live a strict Islamic life either - very different to those that frequent mosques built with Saudi money.

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Feb 25, 10, 20:16 #10

Torq:

Christian leaders in Europe?

I'm sure you're aware of the fact that there's a Christian coalition in Brussels?

Torq:

Name one Christian leader in Europe who encourages muslim immigration to our continent.

Well, our Prime Minister encourages it, as it's clear for all to see. (And ofcourse he's a Christian.) I bet the Polish government also encourages it, because why else would they allow the building of these Mosques? Because they're not going to allow it? Come on..

Oh, and with Christian leaders I also mean Catholic leaders. I'm not even going to explain this one. Just look at your own government, take a look abroad, and then take a good long look at Brussels.

;)

convexThreads: 46 Posts: 7,185 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Feb 25, 10, 20:21 #11
Torq: Christian leaders in Europe? Name one Christian leader in Europe who encourages muslim immigration to our continent. Or better still - name one Christian leader in Europe :-) TonyB was pretty big on muslim immigration...

TorqThreads: 65 Posts: 4,024 Joined: Apr 10, 09 MEMBER ♂	Feb 25, 10, 20:38 #12
@Arien, Convex: Apparently when you say Christian leader and when I say Christian leader we mean something different. When Arien describes Polish government as Christian I can only smile - but let's leave it at that ;)

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Feb 25, 10, 20:49 #13

Torq:

When Arien describes Polish government as Christian I can only smile - but let's leave it at that ;)

Catholics have a Christian Bible don't they? Catholics say they worship Christ, just like Christians do. Oh, and ofcourse then there's the pope who calls his religion Christianity, doesn't he?

What I mean to say is that you can complain about Mosques all you want, but you shouldn't forget that it's also the Catholic Church which proudly announced that they wanted to work together with the religious leaders of the Islamic faith.

;)

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Feb 25, 10, 20:56 #14

jonni:

You can see it already. There have been Polish Muslims for hundreds of years. A couple of Mosques here are seventeenth century buildings.

yes, they are muslim people lives in poland, agree, but they are tataric-mongolian people who immigrated poland in the 15'th centry.

there are lots of cristian people (mostly ortadox) is living in turkey, there are tens of (ortadox) churches (also a few catolic) inb istanbul, but their community is from greek and armenian people...

i didnt mean tataric-mongalian peoplewho living in east poland-lativian, belarussian border, i mean the polish people, who is %100 polish, living in poland, who speaks polish.

jonniThreads: 26 Posts: 4,181 Joined: Nov 27, 07 ♂	Feb 25, 10, 21:04 #15
banderias: who immigrated poland in the 15'th centry. Therefore Polish. banderias: i mean the polish people, who is %100 polish, living in poland, who speaks polish. They are Polish people, they "100%" don't have any other home, they live in Poland, they speak Polish.

TITThreads: 9 Posts: 353 Joined: Jan 7, 10 ♂	Feb 25, 10, 21:50 #16
well at least they integrated but the times were different

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Feb 28, 10, 01:20 #17

Feb 28, 10, 01:28 - Thread attached on merging:
Biggest mosque in Poland to be built in Warsaw

The Muslim League in Poland is building a modern, three-story mosque near the centre of Warsaw.

The Centre of Islamic Culture, designed by KAPS Architekci, will be located in the close vicinity of the Blue City shopping centre, at the Zeslancow Syberyjskich roundabout just to the west of the city centre.

The three-story building will have an 18-metre high minaret. But the characteristic sound of prayer will not be heard drifting over the city.

“A muezin’s call for prayer will be heard only in a prayer room, not outside,” says Samir Ismail, head of the Muslim League in Poland. Apart from a prayer room, the centre will consist of a library with a multimedia room, art gallery, restaurant, café and shop. “We will pray there and make Poles aware that Islam is a moderate religion,” says Ismail.

[url=http://www.thenews.pl/national/artykul126355_biggest-mosque-in-po land-to-be-built-in-warsaw-.html][/url]

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The story was discussed on Śniegowski's program on Omni channel in Canada. They had a short clip of what I believe was a university professor (kinda looked like a priest) saying how this was a "Muslim invasion" of Poland and a threat to Christianity, a feeling that is being echoed in other countries, especially Britain.

RevokeNiceThreads: 21 Posts: 2,767 Joined: Jun 20, 09 ♂	Feb 28, 10, 01:21 #18
Who is stumping up for this mosque? The Saudis?

Scorpion ext ruThreads: 1 Posts: 18 Joined: Jan 27, 10 ♂	Edited by: Scorpion ext ru Feb 28, 10, 01:49 #19
Nowak: Islam is a moderate religion Yes that is true,but sometimes there are some who is not very moderate,and its because there are an eastern traditions and a western traditions,and most likely the eastern traditions is not very likable by the western folks or the western traditions is not very likable by the eastern folks.And by the way its a nice mosque,office or whatever it is

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Edited by: RevokeNice Feb 28, 10, 01:53 #20

Those liberals who nearly orgasim at the thought of mosques being built all over europe, to you I offer a challenge. A little adventure, if you will.....

a.. Go to Pakistan , Afghanistan or Iraq illegally. Never mind immigration quotas, visas, international law, or any of that nonsense.

b.. Once there, demand that the local government provide free medical care for you and your entire family.

c.. Demand that all nurses and doctors be fluent in your national language, and that all food be cooked according to your special specifications in the hospital.

d. Demand free local government forms, bulletins, etc. be printed in your natural language.

e.. Procreate abundantly.

f.. Deflect any criticism of this allegedly irresponsible reproductive behaviour with, 'It is a cultural thing; you wouldn't understand.'

g.. Keep your original identity strong. Fly your previous country's national flag from your rooftop, or proudly display it in your front window, or on your car bumper.

h.. Speak only your national language at home and in public, and make sure that your children do likewise.

I.. Demand classes on your country of origins culture in the Muslim school system.

j.. Demand a local country driver license or national insurance number equivalent

k.. This will afford other legal rights and will go far to legitimise your unauthorised, illegal, presence in Pakistan , Afghanistan or Iraq

l.. Drive around with no motor tax or insurance and ignore local traffic laws.

m.. Insist that local country law enforcement teaches your natural language to all its officers..

n.. Organise protest marches against your host country, inciting violence against non-white, non-Christians, and the government that let you in.

Good luck! You'll soon be dead.

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Feb 28, 10, 02:11 #21

Regardless of whether Islam is moderate or extreme, Poland has been a Christian nation under God since the beginning of its history and we had been fighting Islam under the Ottoman-Turkish Empire for a long time. That's why Turkey isn't in the EU.

Just because Switzerland banned minarets doesn't mean they should start packing their bags and heading for Poland, or any other European nation for that matter.

RevokeNiceThreads: 21 Posts: 2,767 Joined: Jun 20, 09 ♂	Feb 28, 10, 02:13 #22
Nowak: That's why Turkey isn't in the EU. No, no its not. Its due to their abuse of human rights, failure to acknowledge its past genocidal actions, among numerous other reasons.

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Feb 28, 10, 02:25 #23

Nowak:

Poland has been a Christian nation under God since the beginning of its history.

I really hate to break it to you, but you guys were heathens for a long time. Poland recieved Christianity in the tenth century to be exact.

Nowak:

We had been fighting Islam under the Ottoman-Turkish Empire for a long time. That's why Turkey isn't in the EU.

It's not in the EU because the EU members still disapprove. Turkey has been a candidate for membership for a long time, actually long before Poland even entered the European Union.

;)

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Feb 28, 10, 02:32 #24

The mosque and the surrounding scenery look aesthetically pleasing, but is there really a market for this? It annoys me that people can't just practise their religion in their homes or in a social group. The need for buildings and monuments, pretty though they may look, is a senseless waste. The fact that the Mosque looks so modern and clean-cut is a point of huge irony, since a modern society should be moving towards secularization.

As long as it's privately bought and funded then I guess it's an OK landmark. We are left conveniently in the dark about this by the original poster, though. Not even so much as a reference to confirm or elaborate on it.

RevokeNiceThreads: 21 Posts: 2,767 Joined: Jun 20, 09 ♂	Feb 28, 10, 02:34 #25
Matowy: The mosque and the surrounding scenery look aesthetically pleasing, but is there really a market for this? Yes, the call to prayer five times a day is such a vibrant experience. The locals will love it!

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Edited by: Matowy Feb 28, 10, 02:35 #26

Nowak:

Regardless of whether Islam is moderate or extreme, Poland has been a Christian nation under God since the beginning of its history and we had been fighting Islam under the Ottoman-Turkish Empire for a long time. That's why Turkey isn't in the EU.

Poland is a secular Republic, and the Ottoman Empire is gone. Furthermore, Turkey is not in the EU yet because of its human rights record and some totalitarian laws.

RevokeNice:

Yes, the call to prayer five times a day is such a vibrant experience. The locals will love it!

I don't think that is allowed in a non-Muslim country. I've never heard one before, except for two weeks spent in Turkey. I'd love to call it a ******* nightmare, but I wouldn't know because I couldn't sleep for two weeks amidst the heat and the prayer screeching.

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Feb 28, 10, 02:48 #27

Matowy:

I don't think that is allowed in a non-Muslim country. I've never heard one before, except for two weeks spent in Turkey. I'd love to call it a ******* nightmare, but I wouldn't know because I couldn't sleep for two weeks amidst the heat and the prayer screeching.

Turkey, beautiful country. Pity about the natives.

Its all up to the local councils, in parts of Ireland and the UK, the call to prayer is a daily occurance. I presume it has been taken into account with the original planning permission application.

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Edited by: Crow Feb 28, 10, 03:48 #28
McCoy: money comes from saudi investor Poljaci, Poljaci didn`t i told you that all what happen to Serbs, sooner or later happen to Poles? Didn`t i? Didn`t i?! i warned you and you were slow to believe me. Now, another warning from me.... that with new mosques is just first step. Next step would be transformation of your old Christian churches into the mosques

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Feb 28, 10, 08:20 #29

Crow:

i warned you and you were slow to believe me. Now, another warning from me.... that with new mosques is just first step. Next step would be transformation of your old Christian churches into the mosques

Jeeezuz!! Someone here who gets it. Exactly Crow, it's just the first step. We may be dead and gone by the time the takeover is complete but our children an/or grandchildren will definately see it if this so called "tolerance" continues. Saudi $$$ is very dirty $$$.

ExiledThreads: 5 Posts: 729 Joined: Jan 17, 10 ♂	Feb 28, 10, 11:22 #30
Somebody needs ro bring Serbian free snipers for this muezin.

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