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Edited by: peterweg  Oct 17, 11, 09:10    #31
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What do PO voters expect? More of the same, I'd say. Surely expediting the building of roads. A modification of toll charges for using motorways for those that have to use the roads often. That has emerged from some discussions I've had with PO voters.



Toll charges? I would have thought, after improving the dire infrastructure, cutting bureaucracy is the most important task.

The vast majority of the country would love to see a road, toll or not.
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Edited by: gumishu  Oct 17, 11, 13:34    #32
peterweg:
The vast majority of the country would love to see a road, toll or not.


oh, well - Gdańsk-Toruń motorway will be paid in its entirety in 3 months - the whole stretch will cost you 30zł for a regular car (I don't know if vans are included but definitely not trucks which will definitely pay more) - you can perhaps save some 10 złoty using the motorway in comparison to the roads that have been used so far - how many people are gonna pay this much for such a short stretch -

viatoll has been introduced on those sections of A2 that have been free a couple of months ago (vans, buses and trucks are to have the device (a box) that makes it possible to charge the owners - it's an addition to the existing tolls on a couple of sections on A2 - as a result (of a much to heavy toll) plenty of truckers now use country roads instead of the motorway - the roads are being destroyed - even houses that stood for dozens of years by the roads now break apart because of the heavy truck traffic
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 Oct 18, 11, 23:18    #33
=gumishu]oh, well - Gdańsk-Toruń motorway will be paid in its entirety in 3 months - the whole stretch will cost you 30zł for a regular car

Some people think it is a lot, some think it is cheap.

I am mean that is why I prefer driving on country roads. The journey to the seaside, 700km, cost me 10 hours last year. Without any toll. I can still bear it.
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Edited by: peterweg  Oct 19, 11, 14:48    #34
gumishu:
as a result (of a much to heavy toll) plenty of truckers now use country roads instead of the motorway - the roads are being destroyed - even houses that stood for dozens of years by the roads now break apart because of the heavy truck traffic



You do realise that vast area,s of the country don't have any sort of motorway to use? Warsaw and Krakow are the first and second cities and they are joined by a country road (E77) passing through small towns and villages with no alternative. There is no plan to build the replacement (which was supposed to start two years ago) becuase the government didn't even apply for the funds. Maybe from 2014 they will start. And the railway is even slower.

Its still quicker to drive to Germany to get to the sea from Krakow.

Look at the non-progress

http://www.martins99.za.pl/npd.swf


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