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teresaThreads: 1
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Joined: Apr 6, 09 ♀ 		 Apr 6, 09, 06:47    #1
Doesn't matter who the American president is, democrat or republican, Poland will always be a puppet of America.
Take your orders from Obama, Donald Tusk, Polish people know you don't have the guts to say no on the missile base. Some reporter should check Tusk's bank account to see how much he's getting paid off to suport this base when the majority of Polish people don't want it.
plk123Threads: 30
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Joined: Aug 29, 07  Pictures: 2 ♂ 		 Apr 6, 09, 06:55    #2
i'm all for the bases and i'm polish so there,,
teresaThreads: 1
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Joined: Apr 6, 09 ♀ 		 Apr 6, 09, 07:27    #3
How about sending a Polish diplomat to Iran instead of building a missile base and making a enemy out of Iran?
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Joined: Sep 19, 06 ♂ 		 Apr 6, 09, 07:33    #4
teresa:
Doesn't matter who the American president is,

Bla bla Bla... Yawn....again and again ,blame it all on America
plk123Threads: 30
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Joined: Aug 29, 07  Pictures: 2 ♂ 		 Apr 6, 09, 07:36    #5
the bases have nothing to do with iran.
teresaThreads: 1
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Joined: Apr 6, 09 ♀ 		 Apr 6, 09, 08:03    #6
Poland has no security problems. Anyone who believes they do is a fool. America has enough ecomomic problems. They should invest their money they would build this base with in their own country.
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Joined: Sep 19, 06 ♂ 		 Apr 6, 09, 08:17    #7
teresa:
they would build this base with in their own country

we have them here already thanks:)

Ok fine, No missles bases, then dont ever ask us for help, lets say the Commie Ruskies deciede to waltz in, they have a history of doing that??

Let the NATO take care of it.........LOL

or England,France??? come on theyre so afraid that Big Red will shut thier oil and gas off!

What did they do when they invaded Georgia?....nothing
Wahldo  Apr 6, 09, 08:18    #8
teresa:
They should invest their money they would build this base with in their own country.

Obama has more or less already said the US isn't going ahead with the shield. What the hell are you complaining about now?
teresaThreads: 1
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Joined: Apr 6, 09 ♀ 		 Apr 6, 09, 08:42    #9
Who the hell cares about Georgia?
Wahldo  Apr 6, 09, 08:45    #10
apparently the russians
SashaThreads: 2
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sledz:
Ok fine, No missles bases, then dont ever ask us for help, lets say the Commie Ruskies deciede to waltz in, they have a history of doing that??

You're living in your own miracle world. Sledz in Wonderland.

Teresa, I don't think Poland at present "has gut not to be anybody's puppet". At that point I find Czech foreign policy exemplary. The are doing good dealing equally well with the EU, the US and the RF. I wish Poland would follow their example.
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Joined: May 26, 08  Pictures: 1 ♂ 		 Apr 6, 09, 11:29    #12
teresa:
How about sending a Polish diplomat to Iran instead of building a missile base and making a enemy out of Iran?

What would the discussion center around?
nunczkaThreads: 17
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Joined: Sep 13, 08 ♂ 		 Apr 6, 09, 12:16    #13
Poland and the UK both will always be Americas puppets. You guys can ***** all you want. But nothing will change. You use America to save your own skin.

Obama tells a joke, Gordon brown laughs for minutes.
Gordon Brown is insulted in Washington, but no complaint
Both the UK, and Poland sent troops in to fight Americas illegitimate wars

PUPPETS
SeanusThreads: 22
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		 Apr 6, 09, 12:30    #14
True enough, nunczka. We constantly have the blinkers on and can't see the forest for the trees. If America can engage in dialogue with Iran, which Ahmedinejad has already tacitly accepted, then so can Poland but where's the need? Setting up that missile shield was only gonna be provocative and costly.

Plk, the bases have nothing to do with Iran, co ty gadasz człowieku? What were they meant as, to repel hail?
gumishuThreads: 17
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Joined: Apr 6, 09  Pictures: 1 ♂ 		 Apr 6, 09, 13:33    #15
For Poles bases have nothing to do with the Iran. The missile shield would not actually defend us (Polish territory) against any ICBM from Iran. Poland would want the missile launch facility to have the presence of the American troops on Polish soil which should be to prevent the Russians from invading without anything happening. The talk about shift in power balance by the Russians is bullcrap - the missile launch base would have only a couple of missiles so it cannot be any serious threat to a launched wave of Russian nukes flying west. (there would be houndreds if actually launched). Btw in face of the financial crisis that has struck Russia quite bad noone knows what happens in a couple of years there.
PS I personally don't think Iran would be any nuclear threat to the world in the next couple of years. And the main issue between Iran and the States at the moment is the States fully backing Israel (lots of money involved as far as I know).

and last thing - yes American policies towards Poland has been cynical for quite time. I just hope for a change - no, not during Obama presidency.
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Basically you have to choose between being an american or a russian puppet.
SeanusThreads: 22
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		 Apr 6, 09, 14:02    #17
And who is a Russian puppet these days? Iran? Venezuela?
southernThreads: 116
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Joined: May 17, 07 ♂ 		 Apr 6, 09, 14:18    #18
Seanus:
And who is a Russian puppet these days?

Belarus,North Ossetia,Transdnistria,Abkhazia,half of Ukraine,part of Serbia,Kazakhstan,Uzbekhistan,Turkmenistan,Mongolia.Allies are Iran,Venezuela,Germany and there is a thought for an alliance with chinese and building an axis although I see the german-russian alliance more viable in the sense that Russia concentrates more on european orientation.
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		 Apr 6, 09, 14:21    #19
Yeah, the Shanghai Alliance is a bit disturbing for some in the West.
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Joined: May 17, 07 ♂ 		 Apr 6, 09, 14:24    #20
Seanus:
Yeah, the Shanghai Alliance is a bit disturbing for some in the West.

The Chinese will always look at the West unless they connect their currency to the ruble instead of the dollar.(which is silly since 65% of world reserves are in dollars while only 2% are in rubles).This will happen only if dollar collapses and Russia manages to get over 50% of the world's gold.
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		 Apr 6, 09, 14:27    #21
And the West will reciprocate. Alex Salmond is in Hong Kong today to sell Scotland and do some business.

Anyway, Poland needed to secure guarantees for the missile shield. If it's a done deal then there should be no backing out. Lack of finance? They should've thought of that before.
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Joined: Apr 6, 09  Pictures: 1 ♂ 		 Apr 6, 09, 14:44    #22
I would add Armenia, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan - Turkmenistan is somewhat less of a Russian puppet though, Nadnyestrye thing
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nunczka:
Obama tells a joke, Gordon brown laughs for minutes.

That was cute, wasn't it? Gotta love politicians.
SeanusThreads: 22
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		Edited by: Seanus  Apr 6, 09, 14:57    #24
I wonder if Brown uses Colgate toothpaste too, LOL

Bush was delighted when he learned that Blair did :)
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Joined: May 7, 07 ♀ 		 Apr 6, 09, 15:23    #25
Funny you should say.. only a few days ago I saw an article somewhere : "America - puppet of Israel"
The kind of talk that you do goes back to the garden of Eden, and comes from the same source.
Besides do you think Polish people would welcome Iranian lifestyle over the american?
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		 Apr 6, 09, 16:03    #26
Some think that America is a puppet of Israel, a growing number in fact. The Zionists hold high positions in the US administration and are hard to challenge. Look at the voluminous number of outstanding US personnel who volunteered to join the 9/11 Truth Movement and were hushed. The outspoken few put themselves in the line of fire.

As for Poland, PO has Jewish elements within. They are fine, they don't tend to be hawkish and don't rock the boat. There is a clear difference between standard Jews and Zionists.
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Seanus:
Some think that America is a puppet of Israel, a growing number in fact.

I HAVE to laugh. Seriously, that is one of the most laughable sentences I have ever read. America is NOT an Israeli puppet, if anything it's the other way around. LOL. Why do you think the arabs are so pissed at the US? They see Israel as a western invasion into holy sacred Islam. They see it as an American foothold in the region.
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		 Apr 6, 09, 16:27    #28
I said that some think that way and I didn't count myself as one of them. Ariel Sharon on the Israel side and many Americans in government. Colin Powell's speech writer being first among them. Check it out, HB, it may surprise you just how many Americans in prominent positions feel that way.

Me, I don't know. I'm not in a position to say. Your reasoning is a little slack though, HB. Just because Israel is an American foothold doesn't mean that America isn't a puppet of the Zionists in the US itself (I'm not saying it is, I'm just questioning your line of argumentation).

OK, let me give you a pointer. How many of Bush's henchmen were Zionists?
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Seanus:
I said that some think that way and I didn't count myself as one of them.

Seanus I never said it was you. Why did you automatically think I did? Hmm? I was refuting the ones who accuse the US of being Israel's puppet. We are puppet of China, everyone know that!
SeanusThreads: 22
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		Edited by: Seanus  Apr 6, 09, 16:33    #30
Well, they appreciated the steel anyway ;)

Anyway, this is about Poland, HB. You have some Polish blood in you, how would you feel if you were in the Polish administration? They had already signed and now they are a pawn in the middle of a ping-pong match between America and Iran, with Russia watching on intently.

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