Poland to enforce chemical castration of paedophiles

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Oct 29, 08, 13:25 #1

Poland is to become the first EU country to impose chemical castration on convicted paedophiles.

Legislation is being pushed through the country's parliament to make the procedure compulsory for all sex criminals who pose a risk to others.

The method involves giving convicted paedophiles drugs which take away their sexual urges.

Calls for the introduction of chemical castration have arisen following a recent incest case that shocked the country.

In a story reminiscent of that of Josef Fritzl, a 45-year-old man was arrested in Poland a fortnight ago accused of fathering two children by his young daughter.

What do you think about this legislation?

Bless You All!

loco polacoThreads: 3 Posts: 421 Joined: Aug 5, 08 ♂	Edited by: loco polaco Oct 29, 08, 13:27 #2
after this i better not hear another peep about dr. mengela ever again from any pole living in PL.

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 ♂ [Moderator]	Edited by: Wroclaw Oct 29, 08, 13:36 #3
hyperamazing: What do you think about this legislation? It seems that chemical castration comes after the crime. When it is too late. Those who are driven to paedophilia will still commit the crime. And what good is castration when these people should be in prison Or are we now saying that chemical castration is now the sentence and we won't bother with prison.

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Oct 29, 08, 14:02 #4

This reminded me of the story in USA when one pedophile asked to be chemically castrated because he knew he'll reoffend (sp?) on leaving the prison but was told by the court - NO.

I don't think any country come with a successful solution yet. They are human beings but they are not preferable neighbors to anyone; let’s not kidd yourself. Letting them go loose after finishing prison term and all those obligatory registration lists are not working.

If it were done on voluntary base I would not have a problem with this. Unless there is a better solution.

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Oct 29, 08, 15:14 #5

Wroclaw:

It seems that chemical castration comes after the crime. When it is too late.

Those who are driven to paedophilia will still commit the crime.

And what good is castration when these people should be in prison

Or are we now saying that chemical castration is now the sentence and we won't bother with prison.

I think this would be a good idea that there should be no prison but casteration... that would be a good punishment....

BzibziohThreads: 6 Posts: 3,657 Joined: Oct 15, 08 ♀ [Suspended]	Oct 29, 08, 15:26 #6
hyperamazing: I think this would be a good idea that there should be no prison but casteration... that would be a good punishment.... Prison is a punishment for the crime. Castration is prevention against future crimes.

McCoyThreads: 46 Posts: 1,756 Joined: Jul 3, 08 ♂	Oct 29, 08, 15:38 #7
outfcukingstanding idea. personaly i would put the bullet in the heads of this scums.

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 ♂ [Moderator]	Oct 29, 08, 15:42 #8
Bzibzioh: Prison is a punishment for the crime This is my point. Bzibzioh: Castration is prevention against future crimes. So now we pre-judge people. Let's chop the hands off burglars. Just in case !

McCoyThreads: 46 Posts: 1,756 Joined: Jul 3, 08 ♂	Oct 29, 08, 15:44 #9
Wroclaw: Let's chop the hands off burglars. Just in case ! no, let the pedophile do it again and again waiting for his resocialization

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 ♂ [Moderator]	Oct 29, 08, 15:53 #10
McCoy, My point is that this new legislation makes no sense. To be punished twice for the same crime makes a mockery of law. Lock 'em up and that's that. We don't have the death penalty, so the bullet is not an option.

McCoyThreads: 46 Posts: 1,756 Joined: Jul 3, 08 ♂	Edited by: McCoy Oct 29, 08, 16:02 #11
it's prevention like Bzibzioh wrote. one pedophile can destroy several people's lifes. and you can't stop pedophile from being pedophile. after being inprisoned he will walk free and do what's in his nature again and again.

BzibziohThreads: 6 Posts: 3,657 Joined: Oct 15, 08 ♀ [Suspended]	Oct 29, 08, 16:04 #12
McCoy: So now we pre-judge people. Rather post-judge. They already showed as what they are up to. No need to guess.

McCoyThreads: 46 Posts: 1,756 Joined: Jul 3, 08 ♂	Oct 29, 08, 16:07 #13
Bzibzioh: i don't know how to quote properly i can see that

BzibziohThreads: 6 Posts: 3,657 Joined: Oct 15, 08 ♀ [Suspended]	Edited by: Bzibzioh Oct 29, 08, 16:11 #14
My bad. Sorry

loco polacoThreads: 3 Posts: 421 Joined: Aug 5, 08 ♂	Edited by: loco polaco Oct 29, 08, 16:13 #15
Wroclaw: Let's chop the hands off burglars. Just in case ! exactly but PL is the old barbar lands so what do you expect. Bzibzioh: Rather post-judge. They already showed as what they are up to. No need to guess. still a double jeopardy. how freaking catholic of you all.

BzibziohThreads: 6 Posts: 3,657 Joined: Oct 15, 08 ♀ [Suspended]	Oct 29, 08, 16:16 #16
loco polaco: exactly but PL is the old barbar lands so what do you expect. Yee, and we also eat swans, you know.

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 ♂ [Moderator]	Oct 29, 08, 16:23 #17
McCoy: and you can't stop pedophile from being pedophile. I've already said as much. Also, I never said that they should be released from prison. They should be in a secure unit. For life.

BzibziohThreads: 6 Posts: 3,657 Joined: Oct 15, 08 ♀ [Suspended]	Oct 29, 08, 16:42 #18
Wroclaw: They should be in a secure unit. For life. That would be very good. Although to expensive for any country to incarcerate (sp?) so many.

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Oct 30, 08, 07:45 #19
Bzibzioh: Castration is prevention against future crimes. No it isn't. It simply removes one possible tool used to commit crime. It does not remove the urge to commit crime and it does not remove access to other tools which can be used to commit crime.

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,955 Joined: May 17, 07 ♂	Oct 30, 08, 10:31 #20
Harry: It simply removes one possible tool used to commit crime. It does not remove the urge to commit crime and it does not remove access to other tools which can be used to commit crime. They should get arm and tongue castration as well.

Shawn_H	Oct 30, 08, 10:32 #21
southern: They should get arm and tongue castration as well. How about a lobotomy?

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,955 Joined: May 17, 07 ♂	Oct 30, 08, 10:40 #22
Shawn_H: How about a lobotomy? Lobotomy has been abandoned in the last 40 years.

noimmigration	Oct 30, 08, 10:41 #23
I bet the EU human rights regulations will have something to say about it. I personally think life time incarceration is more appropriate. I bet you the catholic church in poland will be sweating about this.

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,955 Joined: May 17, 07 ♂	Oct 30, 08, 10:44 #24
So paedophiles will be easily recognizable because they will have a high pitched voice.

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Oct 30, 08, 12:07 #25

McCoy:

it's prevention like Bzibzioh wrote. one pedophile can destroy several people's lifes. and you can't stop pedophile from being pedophile. after being inprisoned he will walk free and do what's in his nature again and again.

How exactly do you know that? Most pedophiles are great examples of shyness towards the opposite sex and complexes going horribly wrong. The whole idea of chemical castration is just pure populism on Tusk's side. It’s definitely not a remedy to the problems of pedophilia.

BzibziohThreads: 6 Posts: 3,657 Joined: Oct 15, 08 ♀ [Suspended]	Oct 30, 08, 12:20 #26
Harry: No it isn't. It simply removes one possible tool used to commit crime. It does not remove the urge to commit crime and it does not remove access to other tools which can be used to commit crime. I agree. But could we prevent everything? That's no realistic. I'm saying if the offender who is aware of his urges asks for a chemical castration he should be allowed to do this.

McCoyThreads: 46 Posts: 1,756 Joined: Jul 3, 08 ♂	Oct 30, 08, 12:22 #27
Matyjasz: Most pedophiles are great examples of shyness towards the opposite sex and complexes going horribly wrong. How exactly do you know that?

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,213 Joined: Nov 16, 06 ♂	Oct 30, 08, 12:22 #28
hyperamazing: What do you think about this legislation? The whole "chemical castration" thing is a total nonsense. It doesn't work. There should be a normal castration for pervs.

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,647 Joined: Jun 26, 07 ♀	Oct 30, 08, 12:23 #29
Grzegorz_: There should be a normal castration for pervs. and white doggies :)

BzibziohThreads: 6 Posts: 3,657 Joined: Oct 15, 08 ♀ [Suspended]	Oct 30, 08, 12:30 #30
Grzegorz_: The whole "chemical castration" thing is a total nonsense. It doesn't work. Is that your best guess or you have some data?

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