Poland and the Jews

Wahldo	Aug 6, 08, 19:46 #31
Warsaw8: It is very prideful thing for vaterland Naturlich.. just maybe the US doesn't have to go "beachcombing" in the next one? Hey.. we can sell concessions! We know a lot about food!

LAGirlThreads: 13 Posts: 598 Joined: Apr 11, 08 ♀	Aug 7, 08, 01:35 #32
Poles and Jews need to get along they are just as much fellow countrymen as the Poles Poland was their homeland being born and raised there makes them just as Polish.

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Aug 7, 08, 02:21 #33

I don't normally like to see these Polish/Jewish threads appear. They never seem to mention anything good like the delicious bread product, the bagel, invented in Kraków, but instead tend to dwell on less pleasant topics, usually with a heavy dose of misinformation, xenophobia, racism and distrust.

There are still a few Jews in Poland, even post-1945, even post-1968. There are many Jews who don't live in Poland, whose ancestors were at some point or other in history, saved by Poland, either in the middle ages or later. There are parties on both sides of this discussion who seek only to make matters more and more difficult to discuss with all their misinformation, xenophobia, racism and distrust.

For some people, things like the so-called "Righteous Among the Nations" may well be worth investigating (even if you do start with Wikipedia).

Wikipedia:
Polish citizens have the highest count of Righteous among the Nations in the world, at 6,066,[1] despite the fact that in German-occupied Poland all household members were punished by death if a Jew were found concealed in their home or on their property

For others, simply opening their eyes to some of the smaller, less obvious realities of the world may be the thing to do. Not every Jew is a zionist, not every Jew agrees with the policies of the Israeli government, not every Jew is wealthy, and so on and so on. Then perhaps take note that anti-Semitism occurs in Poland like it does across the world - there are those who are anti-Jewish, and many many more who are not.

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Aug 7, 08, 21:49 #34

LAGirl:

Poles and Jews need to get along they are just as much fellow countrymen as the Poles Poland was their homeland being born and raised there makes them just as Polish.

WoW, what a beautiful flower-power statement! Something between Che Guevarra and John Lenon... It is hard to get along with an chosen nation that refers to you as the Goys. They have their own country now for a good reason; it would be nice if they stopped looking for other nations to pay for support of their country in the name of holocaust, anti-Semitism etc. As far as commenting on what Poles HAVE to do please leave topics you know nothing about alone

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Aug 8, 08, 06:23 #35

What is interesting is when investigations come up about Jewish participation group bring anti semitic up vs. understanding that they are not above being investigated.

Polish Investigators Tie Partisans to Massacre
By Marissa Brostoff
As Paramount Pictures gears up its ad campaign for a new movie about a band of Jewish partisans who fought the Nazis, some in Poland are suggesting that the partisans in question may also have been murderers.

Those allegations “underline the antisemitic tendencies of the writers and the distortion of history,” Tec said.

http://www.forward.com/articles/13935/

ConstantineKThreads: 35 Posts: 1,949 Joined: May 10, 07 ♂	Aug 11, 08, 12:30 #36
There is some difference between American jews and jews in Israel.

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Aug 11, 08, 12:48 #37

ConstantineK:

There is some difference between American jews and jews in Israel.

I have to speak in favor of the jews. My Father came from Poland with a hate for the Jews.
But speaking for myself, I have never had a bad experience with them here in America. I worked for them, as well as along side them.. I was always treated fairly.
I have been treated by Jewish doctors.
I used Jewish Lawyers for litigation purposes.
I have never felt like I was mistreated.
They are smart people.
Besides they make the best corned beef sandwich in the world.

SHALOM

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Edited by: joepilsudski Aug 11, 08, 13:12 #38

celinski:

SPIEGEL INTERVIEW WITH ALEXANDER SOLZHENITSYN
'I Am Not Afraid of Death' 'The October Revolution is a Myth'

A very good interview...I read it a couple of years ago...Solzhenitsyn's book '200 Years...' is not available in English translation in the US or the West...None of the major publishing houses, all Jewish owned, will publish a translation...this is 'Jewish Democracy'...I am thinking of recording an album with that title, like Axl Rose of Guns'n'Roses planned to do with their ill-fated 'Chinese Democracy' album.

osiol:

I don't normally like to see these Polish/Jewish threads appear. They never seem to mention anything good like the delicious bread product, the bagel, invented in Kraków, but instead tend to dwell on less pleasant topics, usually with a heavy dose of misinformation, xenophobia, racism and distrust.

For some people, things like the so-called "Righteous Among the Nations" may well be worth investigating

I also like bagels, and, not only that, but I enjoy a good corned-beef or pastrami sndwich...the Jews are certainly in the vanguard of delicatessen cuisine...but, the 'Righteous Among Nations'?...this means: Goyim who serve Jews and shut their mouths, or 'Shabbaz Goy', the Goy who cleans the Jews toilet on the Sabbath...Shalom!

ConstantineKThreads: 35 Posts: 1,949 Joined: May 10, 07 ♂	Aug 11, 08, 13:30 #39
Ah Joe, it is very sad that you don't understand Russian, otherwise you should watch TV program or russian historian A. Panchenko 'history of jewish question'.

FranekThreads: 21 Posts: 525 Joined: Apr 12, 08 ♂	Edited by: Franek Aug 11, 08, 14:08 #40
JOE, I heard that word (GOYIM) when I was a kid..I never really knew what it meant. I looked it up on Google.. According to Google, it means a non jew or gentile.. Then they discuss another word.(SHEGETZ),, Now this is a derogatory word..( Used like,, now why does that nice Jewish girl want to associate with that (SHEBETZ) Have you ever heard that word before.. If so, What does it mean?

CrowThreads: 365 Posts: 7,189 Joined: Feb 14, 07 ♂	Aug 11, 08, 14:58 #41
PolishDude: Poland and the Jews wtfff??? What Poland has with Jews? Poles have Poland and Serbs. Jews have Israel, USA and EU. Poles and Jews should have good mutual relationship based on mutual interests, when there are mutual interests... and, that`s it.

Poor EdwardThreads: 11 Posts: 197 Joined: Aug 4, 08 ♂	Aug 11, 08, 15:14 #42
osiol: the bagel, invented in Kraków You learn something new everyday, can I presume the worlds oldeest bagel shop resides in Krakow

CrowThreads: 365 Posts: 7,189 Joined: Feb 14, 07 ♂	Aug 11, 08, 16:24 #43
Poor Edward: Poor Edward why you taken Net name Poor Edward? if i can ask

Poor EdwardThreads: 11 Posts: 197 Joined: Aug 4, 08 ♂	Aug 11, 08, 16:32 #44
Crow: why you taken Net name Poor Edward? if i can ask Its an ode to one of my favourite artists, who I had the astounding honour of seeing in concert last week, Tom Waits. Its a song from his album "Alice", I also go under the alias Table Top Joe, also taken from "Alice". Why do you ask, pray tell?

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Aug 11, 08, 16:46 #45

Poor Edward:

Its an ode to one of my favourite artists, who I had the astounding honour of seeing in concert last week, Tom Waits. Its a song from his album "Alice", I also go under the alias Table Top Joe, also taken from "Alice". Why do you ask, pray tell?

Man, what to tell you, i have great respect for your attitude, great respect. Maybe i can adopt similar way of thinking when war in my country finishes

Poor EdwardThreads: 11 Posts: 197 Joined: Aug 4, 08 ♂	Aug 11, 08, 16:52 #46
What you mean?

CrowThreads: 365 Posts: 7,189 Joined: Feb 14, 07 ♂	Edited by: Crow Aug 11, 08, 16:53 #47
Poor Edward: What you mean? after liberation of Kosovo, Metohija and Krajina. Those are Serbian lands under occupation of NATO (read German) satelites

Poor EdwardThreads: 11 Posts: 197 Joined: Aug 4, 08 ♂	Aug 11, 08, 16:54 #48
Sorry, what I meant was are you being sarcastic?

CrowThreads: 365 Posts: 7,189 Joined: Feb 14, 07 ♂	Edited by: Crow Aug 11, 08, 16:58 #49
Poor Edward: Sorry, what I meant was are you being sarcastic? no, realy not. I despice sarcastic feelings I realy understand and respect you. Because of myself, at least I hope that it is so... if it is so, it would mean that NATO and mujaheedines didn`t defeated me. It would mean that i won Crow: Poor Edward from which country are you?

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Edited by: Poor Edward Aug 11, 08, 17:09 #50

Crow:

I realy understand and respect you

Thank you for respecting me, as I respect you for your debating skills, but understand me is a little far fetched, no? I only gave you the whereabouts of my name.

Crow:

Because of myself, at least I hope that it is so... if it is so, it would mean that NATO and mujaheedines didn`t defeated me. It would mean that i won

Hope it all works out for you.
Ireland

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,892 Joined: May 17, 07 ♂	Aug 11, 08, 17:50 #51
Crow: wtfff??? What Poland has with Jews? This is a legitimate question.

CrowThreads: 365 Posts: 7,189 Joined: Feb 14, 07 ♂	Aug 11, 08, 17:57 #52
Poor Edward: Ireland wait, i now respect you even more. Your country is in war same as mine. Even foe is same in some bater Europe/Slavija we would found each other in pub

Poor EdwardThreads: 11 Posts: 197 Joined: Aug 4, 08 ♂	Aug 11, 08, 18:00 #53
Sorry man my country hasn't been at war in the last 90 odd years. We still have petty squabbles among the more pigheaded of our population, but the vast majority dont care we'd rather just live our lives and get along.

CrowThreads: 365 Posts: 7,189 Joined: Feb 14, 07 ♂	Aug 11, 08, 18:02 #54
Poor Edward: Sorry man my country hasn't been at war in the last 90 odd years. We still have petty squabbles among the more pigheaded of our population, but the vast majority dont care we'd rather just live our lives and get along. don`t worry. There is party on horizon

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,892 Joined: May 17, 07 ♂	Aug 11, 08, 18:03 #55
Poor Edward: petty squabbles among the more pigheaded of our population Crow would not call them like that.

Poor EdwardThreads: 11 Posts: 197 Joined: Aug 4, 08 ♂	Aug 11, 08, 18:04 #56
Crow: There is party on horizon We'll see :)

CrowThreads: 365 Posts: 7,189 Joined: Feb 14, 07 ♂	Edited by: Crow Aug 11, 08, 18:07 #57
southern: Crow would not call them like that. what crossed my mind... is it possible that things are that simple??? That all other tribes failed and that only Scordiscs still resist, in zone under occupation question is methapisical, you of course understand that

Poor EdwardThreads: 11 Posts: 197 Joined: Aug 4, 08 ♂	Aug 11, 08, 18:11 #58
southern: Crow would not call them like that. Well thats how I call them over here, I've more important things to worry about in my day to day life than wheather the English are gonna come back. As for you guys yous feel strong for whatever cause your fighting, but I personally have no time for it.

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Aug 11, 08, 19:33 #59

Franek:

JOE,
I heard that word (GOYIM) when I was a kid..I never really knew what it meant.
I looked it up on Google.. According to Google, it means a non jew or gentile..

Then they discuss another word.(SHEGETZ),, Now this is a derogatory word..( Used like,, now why does that nice Jewish girl want to associate with that (SHEBETZ)

Have you ever heard that word before.. If so, What does it mean?

I dont feel the need to google "shegetz". But its a word they use to refer to non jews (AS SLAVES), (LESSER THEN). And too be treated as such. Look into the Talmud.

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Edited by: joepilsudski Aug 13, 08, 16:44 #60

ConstantineK:

Ah Joe, it is very sad that you don't understand Russian, otherwise you should watch TV program or russian historian A. Panchenko 'history of jewish question'.

I will look up this Panchenko, as there may be translations of his writing/commentary.

Franek:

JOE,
I heard that word (GOYIM) when I was a kid..I never really knew what it meant.
I looked it up on Google.. According to Google, it means a non jew or gentile..

Then they discuss another word.(SHEGETZ),, Now this is a derogatory word..( Used like,, now why does that nice Jewish girl want to associate with that (SHEBETZ)

Have you ever heard that word before.. If so, What does it mean?

In Hebrew, the word 'goyim' simply means 'nation'...however, the Rabbis taught that 'goyim' actually meant 'non-Jewish' nation...'Shegetz' means 'dity goy', and one derivative is 'shiksa' which means 'unclean goy female', or prostitute.

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