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 Feb 14, 11, 17:53    #1
I must say that this article surprised me but then I haven't been to the part of Poland that the author is writing about. How much truth is there in this article?

Trade of Nazi propaganda is booming in Poland

Punishable in Germany, legal in Poland: SS badges, swastikas, t-shirts illustrated with extreme-right symbolism and far-right music are sold in border markets on the Oder and Neisse. Poland is the biggest producer of nazi propaganda in Europe. Although the marketing of political goals is forbidden, trade with Nazi devotees is not

In the obscure stands of a market in Küstrin on the Oder, t-shirts are emblazoned with the words Deutsche Wut (German fury). Pictures of soldiers in the armed forces are placed beside the text. Next to the heads of decapitated SS members, other tricots are adorned with messages from the extreme-right music group Landser. They cost five euro. ‘These are clothes for teenagers,’ Marian Kalicki, the stand’s owner, casually interjects. He says that he had no idea that Landser are the first band in Germany to be labelled a ‘criminal association’ by the federal court of justice. Or that the band leader was jailed for three years for sedition.

Full article here.

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 Feb 14, 11, 18:03    #2
As far as I know Kustrin is Kostrzyn Nad Odra, a border crossing. I'n suprised that sort of thing is going on - surely illegal and easy to stop.
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Edited by: Torq  Feb 14, 11, 18:24    #3
The article is from September 2009, and I remember it was already discussed on this forum.
There must be some newer proof that Poland is the most nazi country in the history of the
Universe. Just look harder and you should be able to find something new - 2010, 2011 even.

As for that old article, I hope the trade is still going on - the overwhelming majority of wares
is produced for the export, so basically Poles get the money, making profits and improving Polish
economy, and neo-nazi retards from all over Europe get sh*tty quality t-shirts with Adolf on
them or fake SS badges. A win-win situation (both for Poland and the neo-nazi neanderthals.)

Keep up the good work, lads, and get as much money off those retards as you can :)
alexw68  Feb 14, 11, 18:32    #4
Torq:
Keep up the good work, lads, and get as much money off those retards as you can :)

Yeaaah, that might be taking 'the end justifies the means' a bit beyond the pale ...

Sad to relate but there's a domestic market for this crap, too. Go to Gorzów WLKP and walk Wysińskiego after dark (or better still, the Zawarcie area of town) - even after all these years, the 88 sweat-tops are out in force.

On second thoughts - don't.
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 Feb 14, 11, 18:38    #5
So Poles are enablers for demand from idiots and closets Nazis and the Nazis are buying the Nazis memorabilia from people that in their view are subhuman’s that is perplexing dilemma how and when your dogma get compromise.
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 Feb 14, 11, 18:40    #6
Torq:
Keep up the good work, lads, and get as much money off those retards as you can :)

Not a bad plan but could be better (i.e. note down the registration numbers of the idiots and then tip off the German police).
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Edited by: Torq  Feb 14, 11, 18:41    #7
alexw68:
Sad to relate but there's a domestic market for this crap, too.


Oh, I know that, but the domestic market takes no more than 3-5% of the production,
the rest is export - pure profit for Poland. I mean the retards have the money - get it
off them! If they hadn't spent it on those Polish made nazi gadgets, they would have
spent it on porn and cheap local beer. I'd rather see that money in Poland.

Besides, I think the exporters should save 5% of the profits and in a couple of years time
build a huge monument dedicated to those who gave their lives fighting the nazi scum in
Europe and make a huge sign beneath it, thanking all the nazis from all over Europe for funding
it with their money
, that they spent on cr*p chinese t-shirts and tin SS badges :)

Harry:

Not a bad plan but could be better (i.e. note down the registration numbers of the idiots and then tip off the German police).


Good thinking, Harry!
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 Feb 14, 11, 20:04    #8
PPhhhhfff...
" In west Poland alone, there are two stitching rooms dedicated to the production of Nazi uniforms. In July 2008, Brandenburg’s home secretary Jörg Schönbohm (CDU) asked the Polish government to halt the production "

Yes you ironically fascistic germans...they are called Film Costumes....your film companies buy your nazi uniforms from Polish companies and that must really **** you off...the fact that the workers are actually paid in more than a bowl of soup that is!!!!
(My friend imports reproduction ww2 german uniforms for film/museum/re enactor use from Poland.)

Still,theres one country wher this whole mularky is just at a whole nuther level;
Ive been around,I used to collect militaria,but even I was sat with my jaw on the floor as I scrolled down this web page;
http://www.pzg.biz
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 Feb 15, 11, 18:15    #9
I would be more concerned with the demand for these products in Germany.
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 Feb 15, 11, 18:19    #10
BBman:
I would be more concerned with the demand for these products in Germany.

They have a world wide "fan group"... but actually the biggest ones are in US and Russia ;-)
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Edited by: ShortHairThug  Feb 15, 11, 18:30    #11
sascha:
but actually the biggest ones are in US and Russia ;-)

I’ve heard that the demand for this sort of products had reached all-time high in Israel where it’s a big hit with Patrol 35 members. Supply and demand.
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 Feb 15, 11, 18:36    #12
ShortHairThug:
I’ve heard that the demand for this sort of products had reached all-time high in Israel where it’s a big hit with Patrol 35 members. Supply and demand.

Rabbies in bomber jackets, military boots and trousers?? Partially bold they are anyway... ;-)
That makes still sense, but to call that 'nazi uniform'?
Maybe anti arabic equipment. That would make much more sense, especially with the latest developments in their neighbourhood.
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 Feb 15, 11, 18:44    #13
Miszka fiszman


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Edited by: delphiandomine  Feb 15, 11, 23:37    #14
jonni:
As far as I know Kustrin is Kostrzyn Nad Odra, a border crossing. I'n suprised that sort of thing is going on - surely illegal and easy to stop.


It's bollocks. I've never seen anything like that in Kostrzyn n/Odra - the market sells mostly fake perfume, cigarettes and endless clothes and pornography to Germans. It's a high profile place - it just wouldn't last long selling anything that was illegal under Polish law. It could be that the stuff is sold "under the counter", though. I also know that the "twin" market in Słubice doesn't sell anything like this either - why would they risk upsetting their German clients?

I'd also bet my left hand that Russia produces far more neo-Nazi material than Poland does.

alexw68:
Sad to relate but there's a domestic market for this crap, too. Go to Gorzów WLKP and walk Wysińskiego after dark (or better still, the Zawarcie area of town) - even after all these years, the 88 sweat-tops are out in force


I went for a night out in Gorzów once and lived to tell the tale....

The lack of any women aged between 18-30 there is terrifying, though.
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 Feb 24, 11, 07:22    #15
Poland is not the biggest producer of nazi propaganda in Europe. I believe that England by far is the largest producer in Europe (while the United States is the largest globally). Supply always caters to demand. And the demand for nazi-related memorabilia is likely to be greatest in a country whose record of antisemitism has skyrocketed. Poland's ranking is so small as to be negligible. Statistical ranking had been compiled by The Stephen Roth Institute for the Study of Contemporary Antisemitism and Racism, however, the latest data is available only up to 2008. I am shocked and saddened by the rising popularity of Nazi souvenirs. It signals the complete demise of public morals and values and is a horrible offense to the memory of all the victims of the Holocaust (among whom were also Poles.) Incidentally, an article of the Daily Mail in the UK (June 3, 2009) reported that nazi souvenirs were put on sale in London, England just before the start of the 65th Anniversary of D-Day. How uncivilized.
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Edited by: Bratwurst Boy  Feb 24, 11, 09:35    #16
polishgreatness:
I am shocked and saddened by the rising popularity of Nazi souvenirs. It signals the complete demise of public morals and values and is a horrible offense to the memory of all the victims of the Holocaust


It's the uniforms!

polishgreatness:
How uncivilized.


Why? The whole era is still fascinating...
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 Feb 24, 11, 13:20    #17
polishgreatness:
Poland is not the biggest producer of nazi propaganda in Europe. I believe that England by far is the largest producer in Europe

What a load of bollox fella. The stuff on sale in england is bloody imported from Poland....you can "believe" what you like but that doesnt make it fact does it.

Lol,so the Daily Mail reports some fella called Mr Joshua (??!?) is selling T Shirts with Micheal Wittman on the front.....so bloody what? Considering Micheal Wittman made his name wipping out a British brigade single handedly I think its kinda cheeky for a Pole to tell us whether "we" can consider him a very brave and talented warrior......

polishgreatness:
It signals the complete demise of public morals and values and is a horrible offense to the memory of all the victims of the Holocaust

They were not the only ones to die......your language and failure to see clearly Im afraid just shows you are a poodle of the over PC far left agenda..........

But again, dont shout too loudly because, lets face it,anyone in the know is clear about this,the vast majority of reproduced nazi era things are made in Poland and Ukraine,the best quality stuff being made in Poland.......
the following,all nice Polish boys ,dressed in uniforms mostly made in poznan....;

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 Feb 24, 11, 18:04    #18
polishgreatness:
(while the United States is the largest globally

Nope. Russia is. :D
delphiandomine:
I'd also bet my left hand that Russia produces far more neo-Nazi material than Poland does.

Correct.
polishgreatness:
I believe that England by far is the largest producer in Europe

Fan group is no big enough in relation to England population. ;)
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 Feb 25, 11, 04:21    #19
isthatu2:
the vast majority of reproduced nazi era things are made in Poland and Ukraine

What? In Ukraine? Any sources?
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 Feb 25, 11, 05:28    #20
polishgreatness:
I believe that England by far is the largest producer in Europe (while the United States is the largest globally).

I don't know about that. Most of our stuff is made in China, India, or some other third world country. It gets distributed and sold here, but it's actually "produced" elsewhere...
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 Feb 25, 11, 12:55    #21
Nathan:
What? In Ukraine?

Yes Nathen,Ukraine.
Lets be clear,there are two distinct types of so called "nazi memorabilia" being lumped in together here.
First is "nazi uniforms" and old "nazi" equipment,paper work etc from the war years.
Second is out and out trashy souvenirs ,ciggarette lighters,beer tankards,CDs of nazi marches , adolf gitler figurines etc.

The first is the class that is made in Poland and Ukraine , mostly in legitimate factories and produced for film/TV/stage costumes or as museum pieces or for historical living history. ( Without these factories no one could show examples of what the AK wore in warsaw 44) which I dont think people can reasonably have a problem with.
The second lot are ,from what ive seen either made as small run productions from one man garden shed factories or are shipped in bulk from china/russia.
So,Poland,undoubtedly produces the most "nazi" stuff if you mean uniforms and ww2 era "collectables",its not open to debate as its simply fact,the best reproduction stuff available here in the UK has come from Poznan...
But its China that produces the real trashy stuff. Unfortunatly there are a small amount of people in every country who will buy the second category, weirdos.
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 Feb 25, 11, 13:31    #22
Harry:
I must say that this article surprised me but then I haven't been to the part of Poland that the author is writing about. How much truth is there in this article?

HAha made me laugh!

Here is the funny thing. Ever heard of Supply and demand? The poles got it and Europe wants it. So who's the bad guys or lets say the "nazis"? The Poles that supply the goods or the people who buys them that are from countries such as Germany?
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 Feb 25, 11, 15:32    #23
isthatu2:
Yes Nathen,Ukraine.

I have not seen the sources yet. Are you going to provide them or what? Thanks in advance.
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 Feb 25, 11, 21:11    #24
Nathan:
I have not seen the sources yet

Why do you need "sources" to believe your country has a succesfull trade in film costumes????? Whats the big deal? If you want to buy yourself an ss uniform you go looking on the net for it not me.
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 Feb 25, 11, 21:43    #25
isthatu2:
If you want to buy yourself an ss uniform


Mayne he wants to buy an ukrainian SS uniform.
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 Feb 25, 11, 21:51    #26
southern:
Mayne he wants to buy an ukrainian SS uniform.

They are so demode...better buy US Vietnam army jacket and you make a statement too. :D
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 Feb 25, 11, 23:52    #27
southern:
he wants to buy an ukrainian SS uniform.

there will be a few of those gathering dust in attics round here,half the Galician Div moved here in 45....
But honestly Nathan,Im not "accussing" Ukraine of anything more than making reproduced uniforms for films and museums,there is also a nice trade in Soviet and Napoleonic era uniforms...
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 Feb 26, 11, 15:58    #28
isthatu2:
But honestly Nathan,Im not "accussing" Ukraine of anything more than making reproduced uniforms for films and museums

I am pulling your leg, isthatu2 :)
But regarding the Galician Division I am absolutely proud of the guys.
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 Feb 26, 11, 16:01    #29
Nathan:
But regarding the Galician Division I am absolutely proud of the guys.

You're proud of the SS?
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Edited by: Torq  Feb 26, 11, 16:08    #30
Nathan:
regarding the Galician Division I am absolutely proud of the guys


But of course you are, Natty - of course you are :)
You have this soft spot for retarded, murdering animals, don't you? :)

Children murderers', rapists and blood-thirsty sickf*cks - UPA and SS Galizien, the great
Ukrainian heroes - priceless :) No wonder that, with such mindset, reasonable people consider
you to be Zimbabwe of Europe (although, I have to say they are being unfair to you - your GDP
per capita in only slightly lower than that of Namibia.)


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