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Would Poland Be Stronger Without "The West"?


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Kuba TKThreads: 5
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 Dec 2, 11, 00:42    #1
Would Poland be free to make its own decisions?
Should Poland remain within the EU? NATO? UN?
Could it profit from isolation?
Would it protect Industry?

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 Dec 2, 11, 01:56    #2
Kuba TK:
Would Poland be free to make its own decisions?
Should Poland remain within the EU? NATO? UN?
Could it profit from isolation?
Would it protect Industry?


For safety measures its probably best to be with NATO or be friends with Russia and/or China (in case the worst happens).
Personally I want Slavic Union but that wont happen.

If Poland wasnt part of one of them they might get bullied a little if they stepped out of line withe zionist globalist agenda (i.e. Serbia).

So chances are Poland will stay with NATO at least for now. I really hope Poland plays only a minimal tiny role when it comes to helping the North Atlantic Terrorist Organization. I like when countries take a passive stance usually. Let the idiot European countries send their troops to die for dictatorships, oil and money and leave Poland out of it.
Kuba TKThreads: 5
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 Dec 2, 11, 02:20    #3
legend:
Let the idiot European countries send their troops to die for dictatorships, oil and money and leave Poland out of it.


I agree. Poland should concentrate on its own problems. Believe me, there's many. The current government is completely ineffective and is a puppet of NATO.
Russia and China are unstable. I would support a Central, Southern, and Eastern European Federation, excluding Russia for later. Economic cooperation with Ukraine was attempted during Pi³sudski's administration and seemed to work. Poland should improve relations with its neighbors in case of EU degradation.
peterwegThreads: 35
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 Dec 2, 11, 10:52    #4
Poland has thrown its entire lot with the EU and NATO, the alternative is to become vassal for the Russian Empire and that will never happen with a war.
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 Dec 2, 11, 11:40    #5
Kuba TK:
Poland should improve relations with its neighbors


gee.

great idea.

I mean that has always worked in the past (sarcastic tone)
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Edited by: peterweg  Dec 2, 11, 13:20    #6
Maybe he's a geopolitics student?

Kuba TK:
Could it profit from isolation?


Ref: Albania
Kuba TKThreads: 5
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 Dec 2, 11, 19:55    #7
I have studied geopolitics and the only way Poland can sustain itself is by having close allies. The Allied powers in WWII were incapable of helping Poland.
Kuba TK:
Poland should improve relations with its neighbors in case of EU degradation.

By neighbors, I mean members of the Visegrad Group and former (and current) Russian satellites.
ShAlEyNsTfOhThreads: 8
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 Dec 2, 11, 21:37    #8
Kuba TK:
Would Poland be free to make its own decisions?
Should Poland remain within the EU? NATO? UN?
Could it profit from isolation?
Would it protect Industry?


yes.
NO.
yes.
yes.

simple. :)
JonnyMThreads: 16
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 Dec 2, 11, 22:17    #9
Kuba TK:
Would Poland be free to make its own decisions?
Should Poland remain within the EU? NATO? UN?
Could it profit from isolation?
Would it protect Industry?

No
YES
No
No

And the people already voted for what they want. No crackpot can change that.
SeanusThreads: 22
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 Dec 2, 11, 22:40    #10
There is no question that Poland benefits economically from the EU but globalists are willing to foot that bill. Stronger? Well, that really depends. If Poland withdrew from NATO, it would be perceived as betrayal. Poland must be careful not to be a 'sandwich' between bigger powers and Poland is the most experienced country in this regard. I can see the appeal of NATO as a security valve. I'd like to think that Russia would help Poland but Russia just isn't a very cooperative player. They are competitive and like the lone wolf by nature. Poland needs the West for sure but the key is in the specifics of how.



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