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POLES FEEL LIKE JEWS HAVE TOO MUCH CONTROL IN POLAND - TRUE?


delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
15 Mar 2011 #61
The fact that you're in Toronto and yet posting an article from the UK Telegraph suggests that you're scouring the internet for reports about how evil Jews are doing bad things to Poland.
PennBoy 76 | 2,432
15 Mar 2011 #62
[quote=rychlik]telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/poland/8381078/Jewish-group-faults-Polish-property-compensation-delay.html
How much are they trying to get a few hundred million or tens of billion like from Germany??
MediaWatch 10 | 945
15 Mar 2011 #63
Foreign Affairs are Jewish Affairs in Poland.

I can't speak for these other people since I don't know much about them, but as someone who is a supporter of Poland, I think Sikorski's wife is no doubt pro-Polish and an asset for Poland, even if she's an American citizen who is of Jewish ancestry.

She writes for the Washington Post and virtually all her articles on Poland have been fair if not pro-Polish.

I think she's an intelligent, good person and friend of Poland.
George8600 10 | 632
15 Mar 2011 #64
lol aren't there about 30,000 Jews in Poland today with more or less only 5,000 who claim to be ethic?
isthatu2 4 | 2,694
15 Mar 2011 #65
As you wish.... changed their names to Polish or Polish sounding names.

wots this....fekkin schindlers list?
PlasticPole 7 | 2,648
15 Mar 2011 #66
As you wish.... changed their names to Polish or Polish sounding names.

If they changed their names to Polish ones, are they still totally Jewish or Polish-Jewish? Do these people speak Polish? Do they pay Polish taxes? Do they pledge allegiance to the Polish flag?
PolskiMoc 4 | 323
15 Mar 2011 #67
The Jewish Media in the U.S promoted ANti polish jokes which these polish jokes were done by Nazis (Hypocrites much?

Alot of Jews seem to blame Poles for the Holocaust.

When as much as 100,000 Poles died trying to save Jews.

Of Course without Poles the Jews would have gone extinct Because Poland was one of the only countries in Europe to constantly accept Jewish Refugees.

It is sad how Jews betrayed Poland so much.

Even Jews in the Media have gone against Polish people till this day like in Borat who Borat is played by a Jew who speaks Polish & who is made out to be a dumb anti semite.

Which is pretty much Jews keeping the dumb polak jokes going on.

But, Most Anti Semites have been smart. Especially the most wise man to ever live Friedirich Nietzshe who had Polish Roots & he called the Jews & Germans out on their non sense.

Nietzsche said that Polish people were great & That Polish blood in Germany made Germany what it was. The man was a genius.
Everything he said was brilliant.
The guy is a true patriot to Polish people & Mankind.

Jews created Communism & The Soviet Unon.

Marx was a jew who invented Communism & Lenin & Trotsky were Jews who helped setup the Soviet Union & 95 percent of the Bolsheviks were Jews & Jewish Bankers funded the Bolshevik Revolution.

Of course millions of Poles were deported to siberia & many died & mllions more POles went to Gulags & Died.

a Jew Yagoda setup the Gulag system.

ti is sad that a Jew Lazar Kaganovich setup the Holodomor Ukrainian Famine where 10 million Ukrainians died. 62 million Slavs died in Total in the Soviet Union.

Yet, Jews ***** about 6 million Jews dead? When they are largely behind the genocide of 62 million Slavs????

Jews were largely behind Katyn.

I think that Smolensk was done by Jews too.

Polish Bankers denied a IMF loan just about 2 weeks before Smolensk & The IMF is run by Jews & the Polish Banker who denied the IMF loan was killed. Also Poles denied the Swine Flu Vaccines & That is run by Jews too.

So Jews have had alot of Control over Poles but much of it from abroad Which is how Jews Operate.
Des Essientes 7 | 1,290
15 Mar 2011 #68
Especially the most wise man to ever live Friedirich Nietzshe who had Polish Roots

I agree that Nietzsche was very wise but his family's belief in their noble Polish roots has been made highly suspect by genealogical researchers. The surname "Nietzsche" is not a Polish surname and it is the paternal side of his family that is supposed to have hailed from Poland. The family legend claimed that they had been szlachta that had adopted Lutheranism and then left Poland because they were persecuted for it. It is true that much of the szlachta did convert to Protestantism during the Reformation but almost all these families returned to Catholicism during the Counter-Reformation so perhaps some level of persecution could've occurred. Nietzsche's father as well as his paternal grand-father and great-grandfather had been Lutheran pastors, but older generations Nietzsche's paternal line had all been butchers. So for Nietzsche's family legend to be true then the following unlikely scenario must be true: That a noble Polish family moved to Swabia, because of their Lutheranism, and then took up the lowly trade of butcher for several generations before becoming Lutheran clergymen. I do however agree that Nietzsche's philosophy is Polish in spirit and so perhaps his atavistic claims may actually be true.
isthatu2 4 | 2,694
15 Mar 2011 #69
Of Course without Poles the Jews would have gone extinct Because Poland was one of the only countries in Europe to constantly accept Jewish Refugees.

What a steaming heap of BS....Poland slammed the doors shut to jews in the 1930s.Those forced out of nazi germany were put in a concentration camp as soon as the crossed into Poland. By world war two Poland was about as inviting a place to jewish people as the bleedin Eagles Nest. Can you tell me how many Jewish presidents of Poland there have been?No?OK,in the 19th century a Jew was Britains Prime Minister.

Yep,keep up this fantasy that Poland was a land of milk and honey and the only place where jews were safe lols.
Think its pretty obvious why many of them distrust you guys from the bile that gets spouted on here and elsewhere...."We in Po land are the most enlightened accepting people in europe you jewish pig/traitor/zionist/commie/banker/baby sacrificer...."
Ironside 53 | 12,366
15 Mar 2011 #70
Poland slammed the doors shut to jews in the 1930s

He talks about hundreds of years ago, and he got a point there....

What a steaming heap of BS

PolskiMoc is some kind of troll, I haven't determined yet what branch of troll kind he represents!

OK,in the 19th century a Jew was Britains Prime Minister.

Really and what was a Jewish population in Britain at the time, hundred thousand ?And, in Poland millions.

Think its pretty obvious why many of them distrust you guys from the bile that gets spouted on here and elsewhere.

See here, I don't give a squat about your opinion on the subject because obviously you don't know much about Jews-Poles relations !
Des Essientes 7 | 1,290
15 Mar 2011 #71
OK,in the 19th century a Jew was Britains Prime Minister.

Benjamin Disraeli was a Christian his ancestors were Jewish. Judaism is a religion not a nationality.
Ironside 53 | 12,366
15 Mar 2011 #72
Judaism is a religion not a nationality.

Fine, do you know somebody who's religion is Judaism but who is not a Jew?
isthatu2 4 | 2,694
15 Mar 2011 #73
He talks about hundreds of years ago, and he got a point there....

over 300 hundred years ago maybe,hardly relevent when he links it to the holocaust though is it.

Really and what was a Jewish population in Britain at the time, hundred thousand ?And, in Poland millions

Dont want to pull you up,but you kinda prove my point. From a small population mesured in the tens of thousands a Prime minister emerged as against a population of millions where,well,by the 30s they were even limited in how many of them were allowed to go to uni......

See here, I don't give a squat about your opinion on the subject because obviously you don't know much about Jews-Poles relations

bollox, Im not going to lie,I know even "liberal" educated Poles who talk about jews in the language of Der Sturmmer....you know it,I know it,and whats more plenty of jewish people know it.

Benjamin Disraeli was a Christian his ancestors were Jewish. Judaism is a religion not a nationality.

By the "standards" of this peculularly eastern european obbsesion with jews....seriously, you are going to pull me up because he converted...bu**er me,,theres people being called "jews" here who's grandparents probably didnt even know they were jews....
Des Essientes 7 | 1,290
15 Mar 2011 #74
Fine, do you know somebody who's religion is Judaism but who is not a Jew?

No, but i don't know anyone whose religion is Roman Catholicism but is not a Catholic either, yet that doesn't mean Catholic is a nationality.
isthatu2 4 | 2,694
15 Mar 2011 #75
jewishnesss is passed down the maternal line.......its a "nationality" just not a specific ethnicity....
Des Essientes 7 | 1,290
15 Mar 2011 #76
By the "standards" of this peculularly eastern european obbsesion with jews....seriously, you are going to pull me up because he converted...bu**er me,,theres people being called "jews" here who's grandparents probably didnt even know they were jews....

These "standards" you speak of are not Polish standards, but rather Nazi ones. In Poland many people including the national poet Adam Mickiewicz had Jewish ancestors that converted to Christianity, once they did this they were no longer Jewish in Polish eyes. If some people here have adopted the Nazi attitude that Jewishness is in the "blood" that’s unfortunate, but it’s not a sound attitude, nor a truly Polish one.
isthatu2 4 | 2,694
15 Mar 2011 #77
No,its just a bizzare one. Living somewhere with a jewish population in the hundreds of thousands and jews active in every level of sociaty where "jewishness" is just never a topic,not taboo,just not a topic.

Im sorry,but the whole issue does apear to be a weird eastern european thing,weirder still down to the handfull of jews most Poles must have actually met.
convex 20 | 3,930
15 Mar 2011 #78
Might have something to do with never having been occupied by the Red Army.
JonnyM 11 | 2,615
15 Mar 2011 #79
Might but doesn't - the East European obsession with Jews is far older than that.

Friedirich Nietzshe who had Polish Roots

Well, he created the concept of a master race - he considered Jews and Chinese people to be part of it.

I think that Smolensk was done by Jews too.

Comedy. Everyone knows it was a Russian guy shining mirrors/lazers/blowing smoke into the pilot's eyes.
Des Essientes 7 | 1,290
15 Mar 2011 #80
Well, he created the concept of a master race - he considered Jews and Chinese people to be part of it.

Nietzsche did not believe there was only one single "master race" but rather there have been groups of people that followed either "master morality" or "slave morality." He gave many examples of those who followed the former such as "Roman, Arab, Germanic, Japanese nobility, Homeric heroes, Scandinavian Vikings" (First Treatise Section 11 of On The Genealogy Of Morals) but he never claimed these disparate groups were all part of one race. As for "slave morality" he states again and again that it became distinct with Rabbinic Judaism, and that the conflict between master morality and slave morality can be understood as Rome vs. Judea. Regarding the Chinese he, unfortunately, always used them as an example of a people that follow a slave morality.
JonnyM 11 | 2,615
15 Mar 2011 #81
Nietzsche did not believe there was only one single "master race" but rather there have been groups of people that followed either "master morality" or "slave morality."

Very much so. Barking mad, unfortunately.
Teffle 22 | 1,321
15 Mar 2011 #82
As was Wagner who had similar ideas.
sascha 1 | 824
15 Mar 2011 #83
he created the concept of a master race

"...Nietzsche introduces the concept of the Übermensch in contrast to the other-worldliness of Christianity:The Übermensch is not driven into other worlds away from this one..."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9Cbermensch

(Thus Spoke Zarathustra)
Des Essientes 7 | 1,290
15 Mar 2011 #84
Very much so.

So you are admitting your statement of post #81 is wrong, good for you. You are becoming less of a pompous ass, but now you need to retract your generalization about "East European obsession with the Jews." A few anti-Semitic posters on this forum do not represent all of Eastern Europe, just as one patronizing ponce from Britain doesn't represent all the British.
JonnyM 11 | 2,615
15 Mar 2011 #85
post #81

You probably haven't read very much Nietsche - I suggest an introductory course at your local community college - it may help you understand it from a Frankean perspective.

East European obsession with the Jews.

Absolute obsession.

A few anti-Semitic posters on this forum

A few??
Midas 1 | 571
15 Mar 2011 #86
In case you haven't heard, we control pretty much everything in Poland - banks, heavy industry, real estate, retail - you name it and we've got it. Tusk won't cough without our written permission and Komorowski requires Tel-Aviv's countersignature to wipe his ass when he goes to the loo.

<sarcasm off>

Quit with the bloody antisemitism already.
Des Essientes 7 | 1,290
15 Mar 2011 #87
You probably haven't read very much Nietsche

You are the one with an inferior grasp of Nietzsche as your post #81 shows.
JonnyM 11 | 2,615
15 Mar 2011 #88
You shouldn't worry about being an intellectual lightweight - Nietsche is beyond a lot of people. Get someone to explain his views on different cultures to you, and perhaps find someone to explain the dialectic between his ideas and Spenglerian materialism.
Midas 1 | 571
15 Mar 2011 #89
Oh, yeah, I need to add that I find the ideas listed in the original link absurd. We are talking about pretty much the same cretins that spend most of their free time coming up with "Jewish names" for every Polish politician that ever managed to grab any sort of meaningful office.

Bloody loonies, period.
Des Essientes 7 | 1,290
15 Mar 2011 #90
Johnny not only are you not an intellectual of any weight, but you are an ******* who refuses to admit when he is wrong. You have no honor and you are not worthy of participating in a Polish discussion forum because Poles and Polonia still have some sense of nobility which you are lacking. Keep trying to monitor every thread here you pushy piece of crap and search Nietzsche for the passage where he claims the Chinese are part of the master race you will never find it you idiot. As for me I am going to ignore you. You are beneath my contempt.


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