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HarryThreads: 59
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 Feb 20, 09, 19:22    #1
Fifty five percent of Poles think that Jews have too much power in international financial markets, according to a new survey by the Anti Defamation League.

polskieradio.pl/thenews/foreign-affairs/?id=102255

Poland's chief rabbi, Michael Schudrich, who saw the survey before it was published, said he has not seen any rise in anti-Semitism in Poland since the global financial crisis has unfolded. He said an unacceptable level of anti-Jewish sentiment still exists in Poland, but that it is no worse than in other European countries.

The survey showed Polish responses registered a slight rise in all but one area. On the question whether it was "probably true" Jews have too much power in international financial markets, the level was unchanged from 2007.

google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ihR3pCS1eoqfa10COBWKj37kOn6wD96 8SE403


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Arlene  Feb 20, 09, 19:36    #2
Poland used to be Jewish Country but they changed their regilious for catholic. I don't know why jewish people are smart and have powers to control their businesses.
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Edited by: opts  Feb 20, 09, 19:42    #3
Harry you failed to inform this forum that, and I quote:
Poland's chief rabbi, Michael Schudrich, who saw the survey before it was published, said he has not seen any rise in anti-Semitism in Poland since the global financial crisis has unfolded. He said an unacceptable level of anti-Jewish sentiment still exists in Poland, but that it is no worse than in other European countries.

I think that people like you are provocateurs and intellectually challenged.

Please excuse me. Let me be more blunt, not intellectually challenged, f..... retards.
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Edited by: Harry  Feb 20, 09, 19:47    #4
opts:
Harry you failed to inform this forum that, and I quote:
Poland's chief rabbi, Michael Schudrich, who saw the survey before it was published, said he has not seen any rise in anti-Semitism in Poland since the global financial crisis has unfolded. He said an unacceptable level of anti-Jewish sentiment still exists in Poland, but that it is no worse than in other European countries.

Yes, you are completely correct in stating that I didn't inform the forum of that. All I did was post the exact quotation you give in my first post...
Harry:
Poland's chief rabbi, Michael Schudrich, who saw the survey before it was published, said he has not seen any rise in anti-Semitism in Poland since the global financial crisis has unfolded. He said an unacceptable level of anti-Jewish sentiment still exists in Poland, but that it is no worse than in other European countries.

opts:
I think that people like you are provocateurs and intellectually challenged.

I think you might want to learn how to read before you use words which have more than four letters.


opts:
Please excuse me. Let me be more blunt, not intellectually challenged, f..... retards.

You are entirely right. Only a complete [edit] would ever talk about how a poster didn't inform the forum about something which that poster included in their post....
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Edited by: sjam  Feb 20, 09, 20:03    #5
Arlene:
Poland used to be Jewish Country but they changed their regilious for catholic.

Please God give us strength!

Maybe it had something to do with the Holocaust that there are so few Polish Jews in Poland!

Arlene:
I don't know why jewish people are smart and have powers to control their businesses.

Are you saying we non-Jews aren't smart enough to run successful busimesses... I have been doing that for 25+ years!!

Or have I missed your post as being a humorous joke... please say yes!
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 Feb 20, 09, 20:23    #6
well it's not only POLAND who thinks that but the world!!
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 Feb 20, 09, 20:34    #7
Lotnik767:
well it's not only POLAND who thinks that but the world!!

I can't tell you about the world but I can tell you about the other countries in the survey:
In responding “probably true” to the statement, “Jews have too much power in the business world,” the 2009 survey found:
Austria – 36%, down from 37% in 2007
France – 33%, up from 28% in 2007
Germany – 21%, unchanged from 2007
Hungary – 67%, up from 60% in 2007
Poland – 55%, up from 49% in 2007
Spain – 56%, up from 53% in 2007
The United Kingdom – 15%, down from 22% in 2007

http://www.ejpress.org/article/news/uk/34578
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 Feb 20, 09, 22:28    #8
Harry:
...I can tell you about the other countries in the survey...

It's only one single survey, performed by one organization, and a Jewish one at that, so bias error does apply here. You cannot establish any final conclusions on how non-Jews feel about Jews from this sample.

I'd be more interested if a survey was performed on how Jews feel about each of the people and countries listed in the former survey.
miranda  Feb 20, 09, 22:58    #9
how does one measure anti-semitism?
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 Feb 20, 09, 23:58    #10
Again why do you keep responding to Harry ? All his threads have a mildly anti-polish flavour to them, he always discusses negative things or manipulates regular news like these here to show them in negative light.

Attempting to discuss or disprove something when dealing with people who are prejudiced towards Poles will only fuel them to go on and on.
miranda Edited by: miranda  Feb 21, 09, 00:27    #11
Sokrates:
Again why do you keep responding to Harry ?

It is better to talk about it than clench one's fists;)
Sokrates:
All his threads have a mildly anti-polish flavour to them, he always discusses negative things or manipulates regular news like these here to show them in negative light.

I can say the same thing when you post in Ukrainian threads;). Just an observation, no pun intended.
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Edited by: Bzibzioh  Feb 21, 09, 00:53    #12
miranda:
how does one measure anti-semitism?

Funny you asked; next block there is a private house donated in will by some Jewish couple and was turned into a synagogue. So on every Friday evening there are a lot of cars parked around. Neighbors started complaining cos there is no place to park their cars (it's a residential area) and this synagogue has no city permit. Jewish organizations got involved (of course!) and they started counting each ticked given to Jewish car by police as anti-semitic incident. Seriously. I saw this information and statistic in Canadian Jewish News last year. Yeah, serious scientific stuff. Gotta love it!

What would be raison d’être for ADL if those incidents would stop altogether? Horror!
miranda Edited by: miranda  Feb 21, 09, 00:56    #13
Bzibzioh:
Yeah, serious scientific stuff. Gotta love it!

that is why I asked Harry what those statistics were based on. I am just curious. I am not trying to play the devil's advocate.
I actually don't consider myself anti-semitic.
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 Feb 21, 09, 01:03    #14
miranda:
I actually don't consider myself anti-semitic.

Doesn’t matter. We are all guilty by association :))
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 Feb 21, 09, 01:21    #15
miranda:
It is better to talk about it than clench one's fists;)

I'm not clenching fists i simply stopped treating him seriously.
miranda:
I can say the same thing when you post in Ukrainian threads;).

However i do it mainly to piss off Nathan since he's fun when he's angry :)
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 Feb 21, 09, 01:21    #16
Seemingly, it doesn't matter what you consider yourself, it matters what they consider you as.
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 Feb 21, 09, 02:37    #17
Arlene:
Poland used to be Jewish Country but they changed their regilious for catholic.

I beg your pardon??!? :O
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 Feb 21, 09, 02:39    #18
There were Jews in Poland before Catholicism was fully fledged, that's what she meant.
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 Feb 21, 09, 02:53    #19
Seanus:
There were Jews in Poland before Catholicism was fully fledged, that's what she meant.

...that doesnt make it Jewish...
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 Feb 21, 09, 03:05    #20
I didn't say it did. Poland had Jewish elements, that's all.
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 Feb 21, 09, 03:15    #21
Seanus:
There were Jews in Poland before Catholicism was fully fledged, that's what she meant.

No - she meant "Poland used to be Jewish Country but they changed their regilious for catholic" - the give away being when they changed religion from jewish to catholicism. If she meant - there were Jews in Poland before Catholicism - she would have said that. Can you not see this Grand Canyon of a difference?
Arlene Edited by: Arlene  Feb 21, 09, 03:26    #22
<<Are you saying we non-Jews aren't smart enough to run successful busimesses... I have been doing that for 25+ years!!>>

No, I do not say non-Jews aren't smart. Jewish people got business from their parents who passes on. So this is how Jews got it. Don't forget there were lot of poor catholic people livings on farms and raised vegetables and animals to sell.

<<Or have I missed your post as being a humorous joke... please say yes!>>

I don't know if I should say yes. Not everybody aren't dumb. It is just how we are raised.

I was saying that my mother was born in Indiana and her parents move back to Poland. She was telling me that alot of Jewish People are living there and they have businesses. Her mother had huge farm with chicken, pigs and cows and others. She sells egges & meats to Jewish customers in other villages. They were very good to my grandmother and my mother and Jewish customers buys alot of products.
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 Feb 21, 09, 03:31    #23
fred_chopin:
Than please explain it to me.

Poland had a large Jewish community and was known for it...now it's a largely Catholic community.

The majority didn't "give up" being Jewish, they were killed or exiled. Previous to the WW2 Poland had a large Jewish presence.
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Edited by: Bzibzioh  Feb 21, 09, 03:42    #24
Arlene:
Poland used to be Jewish Country but they changed their regilious for catholic.

Arlene:
Her mother had huge farm with chicken, pigs and cows and others. She sells egges & meats to Jewish customers in other villages. They were very good to my grandmother and my mother and Jewish customers buys alot of products.

Oh, that's explains a lot. Not.

Arlene, have you try to follow more recent developments in Poland, lets say past 1935?
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 Feb 21, 09, 03:55    #25
Misty:
Previous to the WW2 Poland had a large Jewish presence.

about 3 million jews in a country of 35 million

Arlene:
Poland used to be Jewish Country but they changed their regilious for catholic

Just in case you actually mean this -
Even before Poland became Christian under Prince Mieczyslaw I (962-92), there were Christians in Polish territory. This explains the comparatively peaceful acceptance by the people of a new faith and a new code of morals. It may be assumed that the Faith reached Poland from the neighbouring country of Moravia when, after the Hungarian invasion, numerous Christians found a refuge in Poland, so that there must have been a certain number of Christians among the HEATHEN Poles, though no organized Church existed.
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 Feb 21, 09, 04:09    #26
Ogorki:
about 3 million jews in a country of 35 million

Uh-huh - so in simple terms "it's likely that everyone who was non-Jewish in Poland knew someone was".

Actually, I am just sickened these days by the hatred of one human to another. We all came into the world the same way so why is one different from the other.
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 Feb 21, 09, 04:26    #27
Misty:
Actually, I am just sickened these days by the hatred of one human to another. We all came into the world the same way so why is one different from the other.

Nice opening to a big philosophical dissertation.

Or in short: life sucks and than we die.
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 Feb 21, 09, 04:27    #28
Misty:
Actually, I am just sickened these days by the hatred of one human to another. We all came into the world the same way so why is one different from the other.

Hey no hatred here - just peace and love ( except for that girl who wants to know the difference between Tescos in UK and Poland!)
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 Feb 21, 09, 04:35    #29
Bzibzioh:
Nice opening to a big philosophical dissertation.

No it isn't. It's a statement of fact. We're all humans, crappy religion separates us. If you take away the religious reasons for not like another human then there are no reasons for not liking a fellow human.

It doesn't have to be a dissertation, those few words describe it.
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 Feb 21, 09, 05:36    #30
Misty:
If you take away the religious reasons

Then the humanity will collapse. Human being has worshipped something since the beginning of time. It's in human nature to feel that way, to feel and believe, there's something mysteriuos, something MISTY in the the world around us.

Even the most retarded leftist morans believe in something - they strongly believe God doesn't exist.

Fanatics are what is retarded about any religion. Religious fanatics.
Cheers.
E_T

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