Polish-German Close Cooperation Plan

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Edited by: Torq Jun 17, 11, 09:23 #1

Fast railways, gas pipelines connecting Germany and Poland, Polish philology at German universities
and close co-operation within the European Union structures - these are some of the projects of
the agreement that will be signed on Tuesday in Warsaw. Last year, similar cooperation agreement
was signed between Germany and France. "There are no other examples of such a close cooperation
in Europe", claimed a German diplomat, in an interview for "Gazeta Wyborcza."

German Chancellor and Polish Prime Minister will talk before EU summits, and governments of Poland
and Germany will meet regularly for joint sessions. Most probably, there will be joint German-Polish
embassies in Asia and Africa.

http://fakty.interia.pl/polska/news/bedziemy-miec-bliska-wspolprace-z- niemcami-jak-francja,1655700

Who would have thought? :-)

emhaThreads: - Posts: 180 Joined: Nov 24, 10 ♂	Jun 17, 11, 09:49 #2
Torq: Who would have thought? :-) Honecker was better with kissing

FlaglessPoleThreads: 7 Posts: 1,394 Joined: Aug 19, 10 ♂	Jun 17, 11, 09:54 #3
poor crow, he must be having a fit...

warszawskiThreads: 60 Posts: 2,388 Joined: May 21, 10 ♂	Jun 17, 11, 11:03 #4
Torq: German Chancellor and Polish Prime Minister will talk before EU summits, and governments of Poland and Germany will meet regularly for joint sessions. Most probably, there will be joint German-Polish embassies in Asia and Africa. "It is better to have a friendly neighbor, than a distant enemy"

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Jun 17, 11, 15:22 #5
Torq: Who would have thought? :-) I'm all for it! :) runs after Torqi for hugs and kisses Tusk fits Merkel...he is like her a quiet worker, not the great poser. Pragmatic but gets things done. They have chemistry! Merkel has problems with these vain media-hogs who take themselves much more important than their job.

ShawnHThreads: 9 Posts: 3,056 Joined: Jul 2, 09 ♂	Jun 17, 11, 15:24 #6
Bratwurst Boy: runs after Torqi for hugs and kisses Ew, that's kind of gay. Can't you just shake his hand and give him a punch on the arm. Then raise a glass of beer. Now that's manly.

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Jun 17, 11, 15:27 #7
ShawnH: Can't you just shake his hand and give him a punch on the arm. Then raise a glass of beer. But that is a special occasion! ;) We are punching each other all the time....

gumishuThreads: 17 Posts: 3,943 Joined: Apr 6, 09 ♂	Jun 17, 11, 15:42 #8
Bratwurst Boy: Tusk fits Merkel...he is like her a quiet worker, not the great poser. Pragmatic but gets things done. you must be living on some different planet - or maybe it's just the language barrier

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Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Jun 17, 11, 15:46 #9

gumishu:

you must be living on some different planet - or maybe it's just the language barrier

Heh:)

There are always different ways...the inside view, full of the daily strifes and little problems and then there is the outside view, how your country looks from further away without the many little problems and difficulties but more a broad overall perception...both images are seldom the same. :)

Tusk stays for a successful Poland, growing economically and politically, stable and respected, ...believe it or not! ;)

SokratesThreads: 19 Posts: 4,464 Joined: Jan 19, 09 ♂ [Suspended]	Jun 17, 11, 15:50 #10
Bratwurst Boy: Tusk fits Merkel...he is like her a quiet worker, not the great poser. Pragmatic but gets things done. He never got anything done.

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Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Jun 17, 11, 15:52 #11

Sokrates:

He never got anything done.

You could have worse...
Come to think of, you HAD worse!

http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,747244,00.html

02/21/2011

Economic Boom
Poland Is Europe's New High-Flyer

By Jan Puhl

Poland, once a backward agricultural country, is quickly becoming an economic powerhouse in Central Europe. The Poles are strongly pro-European, and even their relationship with the Germans is no longer as tense as it was just a few years ago. Nowhere is the transformation easier to see than in Wroclaw.

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Edited by: gumishu Jun 17, 11, 15:58 #12

Bratwurst Boy:

Tusk stays for a successful Poland, growing economically and politically, stable and respected, ...believe it or not! ;)

sure Germans should praise Tusk - they can't imagine a better partner in Poland

the word PR (public relations) in Poland has gained much popularity and hmm PO government and Tusk himself stand mostly for PR for many Poles(and not much else more) - there is a growing risk crucial developements will be missing before the EURO 2012 (like motorways) - btw Tusk is also a simple (edit: I meant plain) and blatant liar

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Jun 17, 11, 16:00 #13
What would be your alternative to Tusk?

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Edited by: Sokrates Jun 17, 11, 16:03 #14

Bratwurst Boy:

What would be your alternative to Tusk?

Good alternative? None. Better than him? Kaczyński.

Mind you Kaczyński is not a good politician by any stretch, its just that Tusk failed so unbelievably that even incompetents like Kaczyński are better, of course he'll **** off Germans and Russians but at least he wont nuke our domestic economy.

Bratwurst Boy:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,747244,00.html

Sorry BB i live here, german newspapers praise Tusk cause he'll bend over to Berlin but when you actully live in Poland, the guy is a failure, PR is his only success.

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Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Jun 17, 11, 16:18 #15

Sokrates:

Better than him? Kaczyński.

In what way was he positive for Poland? He isolated Poland, he made Poles the laughingstock of Europe...the relationship to your neighbours detoriated to the bottom...

You want that back???

Sokrates:

Sorry BB i live here, german newspapers praise Tusk cause he'll bend over to Berlin but when you actully live in Poland, the guy is a failure, PR is his only success.

Well...the economic data is beyond PR....Poland is on a way up, if you want to or not! ;)

Sokrates:

erman newspapers praise Tusk cause he'll bend over to Berlin

How so? In what way does he "bend over" to Berlin?

I've read that statement repeatedly here on PF....but I still don't know what is meant with that.
Is working for good relationships equal to "bending over" in Poles mind? Is only a leader who achieves to annoy and upset a good leader???
Are international tantrums needed for Poles to feel sufficiently represented?

I will clue you in....the Kaczinsky's achieved nothing with their foot stompings. Quiet the contrary, they destroyed alot of european good will!
In delicate international relationships quiet back rubbings are much more helpful to further your case and help your interests!

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Edited by: Torq Jun 17, 11, 16:33 #16

ShawnH:

Ew, that's kind of gay.

Bratwurst Boy:

But that is a special occasion! ;)

That is indeed a special occasion. When two real men, like BB and I, hug and kiss - it must be a special occasion.

*grabs BB, hugs him and gives him a kiss - Honecker style*

:-)

I'm not a great admirer of Tusk, and I mentioned it on many occasions, but tightening relations
with Germany is the best thing he can do. It is vital for Poland's future well-being and development.
Heck - I never thought I will say that, but I may even vote for PO in the upcoming elections!

Well done Tusk and Merkel. The time of hostility is over - thumbs up for the new era of peace
and co-operation between Germany and Poland!

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Jun 17, 11, 16:37 #17
Torq: Well done Tusk and Merkel. The time of hostility is over - thumbs up for the new era of peace and co-operation between Germany and Poland! Yeah!

FlaglessPoleThreads: 7 Posts: 1,394 Joined: Aug 19, 10 ♂	Jun 17, 11, 16:39 #18
I think somewhere down in Novi Sad someone's having a massive cardiac arrest...

TorqThreads: 65 Posts: 4,024 Joined: Apr 10, 09 MEMBER ♂	Edited by: Torq Jun 17, 11, 16:47 #19
FlaglessPole: I think somewhere down in Novi Sad someone's having a massive cardiac arrest... Why? Crow considers Germans to be germanized Slavs (if I understood his theory correctly), so German-Polish cooperation for him should be a completely inter-slavic matter :-) he would have titled this thread - Two Central European Slavic Countries Working Hand in Hand

FlaglessPoleThreads: 7 Posts: 1,394 Joined: Aug 19, 10 ♂	Jun 17, 11, 16:49 #20
Torq: if I understood his theory correctly You are truly unique...

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Jun 17, 11, 16:56 #21
Torq: he would have titled this thread - Two Central European Slavic Countries Working Hand in Hand Or....even better: "Sarmatian Poland conquers secretly Germany to liberate our germanized slavic brethren - Halleluja!" These novels set in old Breslau by Marek Krajewski as mentioned in the Spiegel-article are news to me...I think I will look out for them. They sound interesting!

sobieskiThreads: 82 Posts: 1,143 Joined: Jun 1, 08 ♂	Jun 17, 11, 17:00 #22
Sokrates: Good alternative? None. Better than him? Kaczyński. If putting a tent on KM....or keep on going with this utterly boring smoleńsk business...then for sure he could be a success. This guy does not even know what "economy" is.

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Jun 17, 11, 17:06 #23

Sokrates:

Mind you Kaczyński is not a good politician by any stretch, its just that Tusk failed so unbelievably that even incompetents like Kaczyński are better, of course he'll **** off Germans and Russians but at least he wont nuke our domestic economy.

Won't he?

He certainly tried his best, by introducing all sorts of social payments to everyone irrespective of need.

But as I'm sick to the face of saying - get rid of Kaczynski, get rid of his goons and create a genuine Catholic-Socialist party. It'll win every election in sight by a mile.

Torq:

Well done Tusk and Merkel. The time of hostility is over - thumbs up for the new era of peace
and co-operation between Germany and Poland!

On a personal level, I hope for Poland to become one of the big boys in the EU. In terms of population and regional influence, there's absolutely no reason why Poland can't be such a thing. This kind of move really helps - people will trust Poland to be stable and grown up.

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Edited by: Torq Jun 17, 11, 17:08 #24

Bratwurst Boy:

These novels set in old Breslau by Marek Krajewski

The Eberhard Mock series. I didn't read any of them, but they're supposed to be good.
Interestingly enough, Krajewski is a classical philologist and he used to work at the Institute
of Classical Philology and Antique Culture of Wrocław Univeristy.

delphiandomine:

This kind of move really helps - people will trust Poland to be stable and grown up.

That's the idea - stabilization, growth and development in the atmosphere of peace
and cooperation. It's hard not to be an optimist when you read news like that.

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Jun 17, 11, 17:47 #25
Torq: The Eberhard Mock series. I didn't read any of them, but they're supposed to be good. They are excellent. Unfortunately I think that I'm reading them out of order. Also, the English translation is a bit annoying in places.

saschaThreads: 13 Posts: 3,858 Joined: Jun 10, 10 ♂	Jun 17, 11, 18:07 #26
Polish-German Close Cooperation Plan to me that looks far more better than that seducing via the atlantic and it's more more natural/logic. that 'overseas project' looks to me more like a sinking ship not yet knowing that it will maybe soon hit ground...

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