Polish Immigrants Leave America for Europe

sledzThreads: 29 Posts: 3,202 Joined: Sep 19, 06 ♂	Edited by: sledz Mar 6, 08, 23:42 #121
Wahldo wrote: The US in general isn't for Europeans They all complain about how bad it is here as they make $$$$$$ Refuse to learn the language and constantly whine about our political matters. Get your own house in order before you judge mine.... AMERICA LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT! Do Widzenia to all you that cant hack it!!!!!!!

Patrycja19Threads: 76 Posts: 3,877 Joined: Oct 31, 06 ♀	Mar 6, 08, 23:58 #122
sledz wrote: They all complain about how bad it is here as they make $$$$$$ Sledz.. dont you find it funny how he worded that? the U.S. isnt for Europeans.. lol yet the U.S. is made up of mostly European!! lmao. I will continue to say.. never a dull moment.. lol sledz wrote: Get your own house in order before you judge mine.... I agree with this..

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Mar 7, 08, 03:08 #123

Wahldo wrote:

You're best to stay home and plot our downfall which you dream of in your beds at night. We know this.. we know you come for us eventually. We aren't Europe's enemy, we've just been invented as your enemy. If you must go.. you must go. The sun will probably rise tomorrow. The US owes Europe nothing.. nothing at all.

Keep taking the tablets...As for the US owes Europe nothing - its all tit for tat mate, you want to build bases in Europe you have to give a little, you want the backing of Europe when you want to invade a country..you have to give a little..you want business in europe..you have to give a little......all one big happy family..

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Mar 7, 08, 05:40 #124

Shell is often right on the point. This is the global economy where one country will no longer bullly the others. watch Japan in the next 5 years . You will see a big increase in the value of their work ethic as China continues to make more and more junk. Remember how they started the auto industry, It is happening again. Poland need to jump on this idea and start mass producing a cheap fuel efficient car of very high quality. Successful companies wiil draw successful talent from the US as Japan did.

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Mar 7, 08, 07:53 #125

outintheyard wrote:

Poland need to jump on this idea and start mass producing a cheap fuel efficient car of very high quality

Poland does not have the same work ethic and high quality control as Japan so this won't be practical.

Unless you offer people A LOT of money you will have trouble getting workers to come here en masse. Poland just not offer as high a quality of life as some other countries.

outintheyardThreads: 37 Posts: 542 Joined: Jan 7, 08 ♂	Mar 7, 08, 13:18 #126
Never to late to get your but moving Poland

jones101Threads: 1 Posts: 554 Joined: Jan 14, 08 ♂	Mar 7, 08, 13:19 #127
I dont think people OR cultures can change that dramatically. At least not quickly. Hell there is no way I would want to live the lifestyle of a Japanese worker. I'd have a stroke.

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Mar 7, 08, 18:01 #128

ShelleyS wrote:

Keep taking the tablets...As for the US owes Europe nothing - its all tit for tat mate, you want to build bases in Europe you have to give a little, you want the backing of Europe when you want to invade a country..you have to give a little..you want business in europe..you have to give a little......all one big happy family..

i'll drink to that!! anytime...
it's about time that Poland changes its "work ethics".....a lot of great people there, if they are all as ambitious, intelligent and clever as they present themselves to be on web-forums, i don't see why the heck that country should have as many problems as they do...what's wrong with that picture??

jones101Threads: 1 Posts: 554 Joined: Jan 14, 08 ♂	Mar 7, 08, 18:05 #129
Heh.....agreed.

Arise_St_GeorgeThreads: 15 Posts: 572 Joined: Mar 8, 08 ♂	Mar 8, 08, 13:35 #130
As much as I hate immigration, until the borders close completely to non-eu countries I welcome the Polish with open arms. Give me 100 Poles to 1 Asian anyday.

Lady in red	Mar 8, 08, 14:05 #131
Arise_St_George wrote: Give me 100 Poles to 1 Asian anyday. AH ha ! Here it comes out. A racist :(

Arise_St_GeorgeThreads: 15 Posts: 572 Joined: Mar 8, 08 ♂	Edited by: Arise_St_George Mar 8, 08, 14:12 #132
Lady in red wrote: AH ha ! Here it comes out. A racist :( A racist? Not really. It comes to a clash of cultures. Multiculturalism does not work.

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Mar 8, 08, 15:39 #133

Arise_St_George wrote:

As much as I hate immigration, until the borders close completely to non-eu countries I welcome the Polish with open arms. Give me 100 Poles to 1 Asian anyday.

oh hell no! Don't start on asians buddy im asian ur just jealous because our test scores are higher than yours are! Also japan is by far one of the gr8test countries in this world with almost no crime rate and an amazing education system!

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07 ♂	Mar 8, 08, 15:41 #134
Asia does not exist.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Mar 8, 08, 15:42 #135
Asia does exist, in fact, I know many Asia's

Arise_St_GeorgeThreads: 15 Posts: 572 Joined: Mar 8, 08 ♂	Mar 8, 08, 15:45 #136
RockyMason wrote: oh hell no! Don't start on asians buddy im asian ur just jealous because our test scores are higher than yours are! Also japan is by far one of the gr8test countries in this world with almost no crime rate and an amazing education system! I should have been a bit more specific. What I meant to say was South/South West Asia ie Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Iran etc.

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07 ♂	Mar 8, 08, 15:46 #137
Chukchi? Filipinos? Palestinians? Perhaps Russians from just over the other side of the Urals?

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Edited by: PeterCpt Mar 8, 08, 19:42 #138

krysia wrote:

It's those taxes. 1/3 of what you make goes for taxes, and

In South Africa the income tax rate is 40%. There is VAT of 14% on virtually everything,
there is also property tax way above the $4000 you quote, plus surcharge on petrol,
tight customs rules, tax on TV, tax on booze, cigarettes etc. Oh yeah, you need
medical insurance too, for one person that amounts to $300 per month easily.

1/3 in tax is a bonus to me.

As for Japan, the glory days are over. I constanly hear complaints from friends
about the standards declining, more people not going to university, and so
on. They have serious issues with low birth rates over there, a system of
social security which is falling apart and an ageing population, hence the
investment in robotics.

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Mar 8, 08, 19:59 #139

Arise_St_George wrote:

As much as I hate immigration, until the borders close completely to non-eu countries I welcome the Polish with open arms. Give me 100 Poles to 1 Asian anyday.

RockyMason wrote:

oh hell no! Don't start on asians buddy im asian ur just jealous because our test scores are higher than yours are! Also japan is by far one of the gr8test countries in this world with almost no crime rate and an amazing education system!

It must be one of those funny differences between British English and American English. Here in the U.S. when we say "Asians" we mean Chinese, Koreans, and Japanese etc. I understand that in the UK Asian means Pakistani, Indian, Bangladeshi. Am I right?

Arise_St_GeorgeThreads: 15 Posts: 572 Joined: Mar 8, 08 ♂	Mar 8, 08, 20:11 #140
Dice wrote: I understand that in the UK Asian means Pakistani, Indian, Bangladeshi. Am I right? Yup

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Mar 9, 08, 06:59 #141

Dice wrote:

It must be one of those funny differences between British English and American English. Here in the U.S. when we say "Asians" we mean Chinese, Koreans, and Japanese etc. I understand that in the UK Asian means Pakistani, Indian, Bangladeshi. Am I right?

i hate to say it, but i don't think it has anything to do with "funny differences between Brit and Amer. English"...lol....it might, though, have something to do with lack of geography knowledge...i know a lot of people in us have no idea about the continental divisions...(what country belongs to what continent).....
check this out:http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/14/books/14dumb.html
although she calls herself a "cultural conservationist" NOT a conservative, she seem to be quite conservative at times...

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Mar 9, 08, 13:53 #142

moksha wrote:

i know a lot of people in us have no idea about the continental divisions...(what country belongs to what continent).....

Is that what you mean? I'm just being sarcastic.

The World according to Americans

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Mar 9, 08, 14:09 #143

I get a bit tired of non Americans always going on as if they are perfect and their S@#T does not stink. The idea that if they ran the world everything would be great. Being non-American, wearing a shemagh as a scarf, being in uni and drinking expensive coffee in a cafe does not make you enlightened.

When I left the US for the long term I was critical of many US policies and attitudes...but after having been all over the world and spent years living in many different cultures I have changed my opinions.

Poland may seem like a fantasy land for people who who have never been, left as children, or are sick of being poor in the US because they cant get a good job....but with the exception of maybe having family around them in Poland there is nothing that is going to be better than in the States. But then it is cooler to bash America now isn't it ;)

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Edited by: Lukasz Mar 9, 08, 16:13 #144

jones101 wrote:

Poland may seem like a fantasy land for people who who have never been, left as children, or are sick of being poor in the US because they cant get a good job....but with the exception of maybe having family around them in Poland there is nothing that is going to be better than in the States. But then it is cooler to bash America now isn't it ;)

I have strong felling that some Americans have some problems. Why you started to underline your strengt and power and that you are nr1 ;) Few years ago there wasn't discussions like that. We believe you are still number one.
lets move forward Poland isn't USA. Poland has some achievements and every year looks more and more impresive. That is all.

Some Poles in USA noticed this fact and decided to move to Poland ...

It is forum about Poland and Polish history traditions not about "Why USA is better than Poland" "Why Poland will never be better than USA"

Maybe we are naive but we believe in our succes ;-)

btw you have so many enemies that you shouldn't show your weakness on your allies forum ....

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Mar 9, 08, 16:53 #145

I am not showing any weakness regardless of how you interpret my words....I am simply stating how I feel about the situation..and it is not about being "Number 1" it is about reality. If Poland was the world's richest and most powerful nation stating that would not make Poles weak or arrogant....it would just be a fact. I feel fortunate that I was born in a country that people want to live in so badly they immigrate there legally and illegally in huge numbers.

RockyMasonThreads: 23 Posts: 303 Joined: Nov 20, 07 ♂	Edited by: RockyMason Mar 9, 08, 16:56 #146
Yah u can't even begin to say things are better in poland just look at rankings by GDP! Poland is a speck of crap on the underpants of the world!!

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Edited by: Lukasz Mar 9, 08, 17:50 #147

RockyMason wrote:

Yah u can't even begin to say things are better in poland just look at rankings by GDP! Poland is a speck of crap on the underpants of the world!!

Rocky you are not partner for me in discussion. You should be happy that only one way of communication we have is Internet.

For me it seems that country of your origin is underpants of world ...

... as to USA after some nervous reactions I see here I think my short possitions on DJ are going to give me more money in long term ...

Filios1Threads: 15 Posts: 1,953 Joined: Nov 13, 07 ♂	Mar 9, 08, 17:53 #148
RockyMason wrote: Yah u can't even begin to say things are better in poland just look at rankings by GDP! GDP, GDP, GDP.. all I ever hear from your fecal infested mouth is GDP, or "Why is America so much richer than Poland?" Just please, go take a long walk off a short pier, and hopefully you don't know how to swim.

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07 ♂	Edited by: Lukasz Mar 9, 08, 17:56 #149
Filios1 wrote: GDP, GDP, GDP.. all I ever hear from your fecal infested mouth is GDP, our GDP looks better and better so don't worry Filios ;-) For me it is strange that so many Americans come here and tell us. "We have biger GDP" ;-)

Filios1Threads: 15 Posts: 1,953 Joined: Nov 13, 07 ♂	Mar 9, 08, 18:00 #150
Lukasz wrote: For me it is strange For me its strange and a wonder of God that this guy exists and can actually manage to feed himself, and dress himself every morning, and go on living.

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