Polish Organized Crime

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Jul 6, 09, 07:29 #1

Why is it that you never really hear about Polish Organized crime? I've been reading up and that there is a large Polish Mafia presence in Chicago and other areas of America and also in Europe for example:

"In crime, East will meet West. Organised syndicates from Poland and the Baltic
States have been active beyond national borders. In Germany, Polish organized crime
groups are the second largest non-German organized crime group after Turkish
groups."

Does anyone have any more information particularly about the Pruszkow mafia and other Mafioso

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Jul 6, 09, 08:00 #2

There used to be very serious gang wars in Poland in 90's with rivals blowing up or shooting one another, later Police either arrested or forced to escape from Poland most of the leaders and the groups running the "business" now don't operate so openly.

And the activity abroad... they mostly supply drugs, steal cars etc. rather without killing and such things so the media don't pay much attention.

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Jul 8, 09, 06:08 #3

Polish and European Mafia is all alive and well in Chicago. Its not like it was 10 years ago when we had our own Mafias. Today Polish mobsters in Chicago are working together with Russians, Serbs and Italians. By the end of 90s European organized crime was dissapearing due to large Latin populations. I think Chicago was hit the most. Most of the europan mafia members moved to Milwaukee and and Minessota, but they are still active in Chicago. Polish mafia was always tied to anfetamine production, (no wonder, we have most talented chemists) exporting it to the United States and then transporting this stuff to different cities.

Please don not ask me how i know this.

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Oct 16, 09, 04:10 #4

In Germany, Polish organized crime
groups are the second largest non-German organized crime group after Turkish
groups.

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That's not saying much lol. It's like saying, for example, that Americans are the second largest non-Polish orgranized crime group in Poland. It doesn't really matter considering that Poles mainly live in Poland, just like Germans mainly live in Germany. They don't make that huge of an impact.

On a lighter note, I love Poland.

Lodz_The_BoatThreads: 58 Posts: 2,314 Joined: Sep 7, 08 ♂	Oct 16, 09, 07:56 #5
ksyssio: Please don not ask me how i know this. Ok. Only because you requested so Humbly.

anton888Threads: 1 Posts: 103 Joined: Jun 5, 09 ♂	Oct 16, 09, 10:22 #6
Lodz_The_Boat: Polish mobsters in Chicago are working together with Russians, Serbs and Italians. So the Polish mobsters are better than the government, they are able work together with other nations not against. :-)

Lodz_The_BoatThreads: 58 Posts: 2,314 Joined: Sep 7, 08 ♂	Oct 16, 09, 15:13 #7
anton888: anton888 You have quoted the wrong person.

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Oct 16, 09, 21:12 #8

DomPolski:

Why is it that you never really hear about Polish Organized crime?

Because it practically doesn't exist. There is no such thing as a 'Polish mafia', just a bunch of opportunistic criminal gangs and elements. We used to call them 'white *******', since they were practically slaves to other organized crime syndicates like the Russian, Jewish, and Italian mafia's and could never really make it on their own, especially in the rural parts of Poland, where the peasants had their own way of dealing with these embarrassments.

anton888:

So the Polish mobsters are better than the government, they are able work together with other nations not against. :-)

Wrong, the Polish government is the 'Polish mafia', for the very reason that they are able to work together with other nations and not against. :-)

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Oct 16, 09, 22:18 #9
They have elements in different cities of course. I recognise the mafia here. There is a resident scarface and he seems to get what he wants.

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,213 Joined: Nov 16, 06 ♂	Oct 16, 09, 22:23 #10
MarcinK: especially in the rural parts of Poland, where the peasants had their own way of dealing with these embarrassments. What ?

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Oct 16, 09, 22:30 #11
Why not engage in organised crime? Poland is a classic state, like many others, where the police would be in on it. Are you gonna slave your guts out for peanuts when you can make some serious money? We all commit crimes, some are just more heinous than others.

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Oct 22, 09, 20:18 #12

anton888: So the Polish mobsters are better than the government, they are able work together with other nations not against. :-)

MarcinK: Wrong, the Polish government is the 'Polish mafia', for the very reason that they are able to work together with other nations and not against. :-)

Sad but you're actually right here. In former(?) communist countries you can't really hear about the mafia for the very reason that the governments work as "legalized mafias"...

escapee3Threads: 15 Posts: 78 Joined: Oct 22, 09 ♂	Oct 23, 09, 09:42 #13
Hi... jumping in and possibly diluting this subject a little, but is Poland a 'safe' place generally to visit? I read recently there's a lot of car crime. We visited Barcelona recently and the list of things to be wary of went on and on (and ultimately the trip passed without incident)! But I've not seen any 'do's and don't's' lists for Poland. steve

1jolaThreads: 33 Posts: 2,737 Joined: Sep 23, 08 ♂	Oct 23, 09, 09:56 #14
Very safe. Take normal precautions and don't flash money. Leave your team's scarf at home.

escapee3Threads: 15 Posts: 78 Joined: Oct 22, 09 ♂	Oct 23, 09, 10:10 #15
Thanks, 1jola. I see my question has also been answered elsewhere recently on the boards, so apologies for repeating that. My defence is I'm a newbie :-) steve

1jolaThreads: 33 Posts: 2,737 Joined: Sep 23, 08 ♂	Oct 23, 09, 10:19 #16
Once coming back from work at night in Warsaw I saw a black guy walking in the city center with his head down while counting money in his wallet. Pretty stupid, but how safe he must have felt.

mark007Threads: 1 Posts: 74 Joined: Jan 19, 09 ♂	Oct 23, 09, 11:16 #17
Any serious polish criminal would probably end up in a large European city such as London, where it's easier to go undetected and line your pockets at the same time!

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,955 Joined: May 17, 07 ♂	Oct 23, 09, 13:30 #18
I think russian mafia runs Poland in cooperation with local aid.Poles generally do not have the secrecy,style,bonds to operate mafia style and they are not ruthless like Russians.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Oct 24, 09, 01:13 #19
Not quite but you need to go into Wołomin and Pruszków and tell them that. Some are and you can see that.

jonniThreads: 26 Posts: 4,181 Joined: Nov 27, 07 ♂	Oct 24, 09, 01:23 #20
Gazeta Wyborcza (sorry, I can't find a link) printed a map of which gang controls which part of Warsaw. Apart from the usual suspects mentioned above, there were also other Mazowsze ones, eg. Nowy Dwór, and gangs from Białystok and Gdańsk with territory here. But if your luxury car's stolen, it's probably off-duty police.

Polskiej_DumyThreads: 26 Posts: 69 Joined: Oct 8, 09 ♂	Oct 26, 09, 00:01 #21
What are the names of some of the gangs in Poland. I can't really find anything.

1jolaThreads: 33 Posts: 2,737 Joined: Sep 23, 08 ♂	Oct 27, 09, 08:42 #22
You can't find anything because the gangs are reluctant to open Facebook accounts.

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Oct 27, 09, 08:49 #23

For a while there was a wave of criminal activities from Polish gangs in NL. They simply would rob some store, warehouse or residential house, load the stuff in their cars and move off back to PL. We know they were Polish as most of these incidents happened right over the NL-DE border and Dutch police caught gangs every now and then. But I don't hear much from that lately.

>^..^<

M-G (some of them are still in Dutch jails)

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,213 Joined: Nov 16, 06 ♂	Nov 20, 09, 20:07 #24
MareGaea: Dutch jails lol...

Polskiej_DumyThreads: 26 Posts: 69 Joined: Oct 8, 09 ♂	Nov 28, 09, 21:55 #25
In Chicago there is a Polish street gang called the SouthSide Insane Popes. Not to be confused with their rival the NorthSide Insane Popes or Almighty Popes who are not Polish, but are white.

pavel	Feb 8, 10, 05:30 #26
lol polish gangs arent ruthless like russians? they are just as ruthless, look up some of the things that have happened in polish news you idiot. All Slavic and East European gangs work on the same basis and cooperate

OgienThreads: 15 Posts: 420 Joined: Jul 22, 09 ♂	Feb 8, 10, 05:56 #27
Who cares if Polish OC isn't heard about too much. OC in general is terrible. I hate how kids try to glorify the Mafia. There is nothing cool about it.

POLSKIGANGSTA	Aug 12, 11, 20:20 #28
I AM A PROMINENT BUISNESS PERSON IN MINNEAPOLIS SOME CALL ME POLISH MAFIA AS IM PROUD OF MY HERITAGE

isthatu2Threads: 13 Posts: 5,225 Joined: Apr 3, 08 ♂	Aug 13, 11, 01:22 #29
Yeah,and I'm Don Vito Corleone coz I like pasta...........

f stopThreads: 33 Posts: 2,861 Joined: Dec 9, 09 ♀	Aug 13, 11, 01:33 #30
what, exactly is mafia? How many people? My personal definition is 4 people or more, kicking a percentage of their ill-gotten gains to the leader. Is that what we're talking about?

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